Stock 1963 - 413 cam/lifter/heads questions for rebuild.

[62maxx]

Greetings.... I have a completely stock 1963 Chrysler 413 and I would like to put a decent cam/lifter set into it without losing vacuum for my power brakes and heater controls/etc. Lately, the rumors are today's "good" new cams have terrible quality control and they now kinda s u c k. Who is still a great quality cam maker and who would you recommend? What lift/duration would you recommend?

Also, anyone have any "flowage" info on the stock 413 heads? What were they called? How do they compare to the 452 & 906 heads? What would be better to have on the 413 with a new cam/lifter set? I will be using 1971 H.P. manifolds for exhaust. If I don't change the heads, will they bolt up to the stock 413 heads?

Lot's of questions but I appreciate any input since I'm not an engine guru. I know this should be posted in the "engines" sections but all the "413" guys are in this forum as we all know.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Sam69sat]

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[493 Mike]

Greetings.... I have a completely stock 1963 Chrysler 413 and I would like to put a decent cam/lifter set into it without losing vacuum for my power brakes and heater controls/etc. Lately, the rumors are today's "good" new cams have terrible quality control and they now kinda s u c k. Who is still a great quality cam maker and who would you recommend? What lift/duration would you recommend?

Also, anyone have any "flowage" info on the stock 413 heads? What were they called? How do they compare to the 452 & 906 heads? What would be better to have on the 413 with a new cam/lifter set? I will be using 1971 H.P. manifolds for exhaust. If I don't change the heads, will they bolt up to the stock 413 heads?

Lot's of questions but I appreciate any input since I'm not an engine guru. I know this should be posted in the "engines" sections but all the "413" guys are in this forum as we all know.

Thanks in advance.

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If your budget allows, I would go right to aluminum heads. If not, the heads you listed do both flow better than stock but, have larger combustion chambers which will cost power due to lower compression. Unless you are looking at much stiffer valve springs, don't be afraid to upgrade the cam. The aftermarket camshaft business would shut down if all the products were failures. Remember, to do your due diligence when assembling components!
Mike

Mike

 

[Jerry Hall]

I went a completely different direction. A Racer Brown 509 cam 67 915 heads, stock type A&A crossram intake, stock dual 4bbl's and exhaust manifolds. About 10-11 inches vacuum. For brakes i have a Viper manual disc brake conversion on the front with drums out back. Heater controls will work, but I choose not to hook them up, because heater hoses look trashy in the engine bay.

 

[Dave6T4]

I like the '452' head,and have used it on most of my big blocks. Bigger ports, hardened valve seats, and larger chambers will knock compression down a full point to better deal with today's fuels. HP. exhaust manifolds bolt to them fine.
I have used Mopar Performance ' Magnum ' cam and lifter kit. It has a nice lope/rumble and good vacuum for accessories. This is a pretty old school setup, and I am not sure if it is still available.
For intake, you could use an Edelbrock aluminium piece, with an Edelbrock 1407 750 cfm. carb. Then, you could sell your 413 4- bolt valve covers as Max Wedge parts for big $$$. LOL.

 

[lewtot184]

I've found messing with the stock 440 in my 69 r/ t that it doesn't take much as far as cams are concerned to screw up the power brakes. My 65 coronet is somewhat cammed up and there is a delay/negative effect to the heater controls. With cast exhaust manifolds I'd error towards the conservative side with camshafts.