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Tony's Auto Parts... Not Thrilled

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I have never purchased anything from Tony's; but the mere fact (not to mention the glowing reviews from all the members) that he came on this forum, gave face and addressed the complaint, will make me consider him a source for my parts even if he is a few pennies higher than somebody else.

As a small business owner myself, that means MUCH more to me than a few pennies saved. :headbang:
 
I'm sorry but I don't get the mentality of bashing a business online without first contacting the business and giving them a chance to make things right.

100% correct! Before throwing Tony under the bus, make contact with his company to express your displeasure. Perhaps he can resolve your situation. We certainly can't!!
 
Ahh yes, shipping. Sold a couple baseball bats on ebay recently. Boxes were about 33 x 5 x 5, about 2 lbs each. USPS priority mail for under 10 bucks. Just for comparison.
 
Hello;

Now that I’m finally back from a road trip chasing parts and at a real PC I can better respond.

First issue I’d like to address the members that posted that they felt they were spoken to rudely.
I want to apologize for that, whether it was an employee or myself that you spoke to, it was wrong and unacceptable, and am truly sorry that you had that experience. We are always helping customers and callers with technical advice and or input, or even referrals as to where to search for a part that we don’t have. So the rude treatment isn’t typical. Perhaps we were busy or had something else going on, WHICH IS NO EXCUSE, but if it happened then I truly am sorry and apologize and I’d welcome the chance to try and be of help in the future. This issue will be addressed and corrected here at the shop, I promise that.

Second issue is that I’d like to thank all of our customers who have posted to support us and also the members who posted that have an understanding of business and shipping operations and shared their experiences or input or support, thank you.

And lastly I’d like to properly address Bruce aka Bruzilla.

You complained about many issues, but then many times followup with something to the effect “but it wasn’t a problem or no problem”, that’s hard for me to understand because if it wasn’t a problem then why start this thread?

When you called last Monday and placed the order you were informed that the total with shipping was $62, as you posted prior.
You didn’t ask if it was overnight shipping. BTW an overnight letter cost $39 thru UPS to ship to you and $23 thru USPS, neither of which the shift rod would have fit in or safely shipped in.

I’m wondering why if the shipping cost was a concern to you, why you didn’t inquire more about it when we were on the phone?

It wasn’t “day 4” of shipping as you posted. You placed the order on Monday. Day 1 would have been Tuesday, day 2 Wednesday and day 3 was Thursday, that’s the day when you received the package at 12:25 pm.

UPS ground (even figuring a 2 pound weight) from our zip code to yours costs $14.73, $2.27 was added for handling for a total of $17 shipping.
BTW, the shift rod would not have fit in a USPS small flat rate box, and USPS shipping cost is more than the amount that you posted it would be.
Anyone who ships knows that shipping companies require that there needs to be a 2” perimeter from the item inside of the box to each interior wall of the box or else if there is a damage claim the claim can be denied for not enough clearance.
The 66-70 B-body and A-body lower shift rod is about an inch longer than the 71+newer B-body rod that you ordered. We had 1 box made that would accommodate either rod. You said the box is 22” long, that is incorrect, and I have 100s of them here to confirm that with. The outside dimensions of the box is 16-7/8” x 4-3/8” x 4-1/2”, which according to the shipping companies gets rounded up to 17”x5”x5”. Which due to that size makes no difference if the contents weigh 1 ounce or 3 pounds, it ships for the same amount due to dimensional weight as per UPS. Catalogs are free with an order and didn’t effect the shipping charge. I wonder if you would have been displeased if you didn’t receive a catalog with the order, this is the first time that I have ever heard of a customer that didn’t want one or complaining that they thought it affected the shipping cost, ever.

The reasons why we shipped your order via UPS is 1st that UPS typically picks up from us in the early to mid-afternoon, while USPS picks up from us in the morning. So there wouldn’t have been enough time to have your order out with Monday’s USPS pickup, but we did have plenty of time to ship it with Mondays UPS pickup. So your order was shipped on the same day as it was placed. I wouldn’t even want to imagine the potential mayhem that would have ensued if your order didn’t ship out until the next day via USPS.
The 2nd reason that we prefer UPS is that your order can be tracked every step of the way. If you would have called us on Wednesday afternoon inquiring where your package was I could have told you exactly where it was, where it was prior to that and when it would be delivered. USPS tracking is very sketchy, sometimes they are good with their tracking, other times there is little if any information available until after it’s delivered. Can you imagine what your reaction would have been if we did ship it via USPS and you called us to track it but we couldn’t tell you where the package currently was?

Since we didn’t have your email address it would have been impossible to provide a tracking number to you “automatically” as you posted. A tracking number isn’t issued until the shipping label is created, so it would have been impossible to give you a tracking number when you placed your order. In regards to tracking info being offered, you are correct that we don’t have an online store, yet. That would be virtually impossible to do with our enormous inventory of used and NOS parts as they don’t come in boxes or at least ship ready boxes, much less a standardized size box per part. Those parts are boxed on an individual basis as they are sold. But since we have been coming out with a large amount of our own new reproduction parts we will in the near future have an online store for those items. Customers do pay with PayPal and other customers inquire about parts via email and some submit their payment info thru an email so we would have their email addresses that we send tracking info to. As a rule we don’t like to take email addresses over the phone as they typically can be difficult to understand correctly, please try to understand the tremendous amount of variables with spellings, abbreviations and symbols that could be used in an email address. So if someone asks for tracking when placing a phone order we just ask that they send us an email thru our website. Again, if tracking info was important to you then why didn’t you ask while placing your order?

I hope my reply didn’t come across as confrontational. If there is an ever an issue I always try to put myself in the customers position, but in this case I just can’t see the basis for Bruce’s complaints, assumptions and need to take it to a public forum like this. Hopefully my post is explanatory enough so members can see the other side of the coin

And lastly, Bruce, your payment has been 100% refunded ($62), but for some reason I feel like that may not be satisfactory for you.
 
My name is Bruce also and I think you went above and beyond
And like they say you can not please everyone
And we all have bad days
 
I haven't bought fro you in years, really only because it's way
too far away really {Delaware to Calif.} & I can usually find stuff far closer here in Calif.

I completely understand too...
Shipping costs are a big part of the industry, way of marketing & peoples budget/costs...

Tony that was a stand up thing to do...
IMO it's Good for you & your perceived good reputation standing too,
because it's far more important than a part {profit} or some shipping cost {or handling}
or even possibly an unwarranted bad rap/reputation spreads like wildfire,
far quicker than a really good reputation
...

I commend you Tony, admitting any guilt/responsibility or issues too...
It takes a real man to admit he's wrong, whether you were or not...
You did the right thing, I know 1st hand about customer service &
the ramification of unwarranted bad reputation too, it's hard to shake...

The online store would be nice addition too...
Easy to keep track of stuff, inventory {if you employee's do it correctly}
also the contact info, shipping & e-mail contact etc. that way too, all on a computer
could make the books allot easier too...

we are in the 21st century after-all...LOL... sorry I can't resist myself at time either

Here's my perspective $0.02 cents as a buss. owner & knowing how all this crap works too...
Part of the problem I can see is & IMO;
People are also so use-to the instant response/gratification mentality today {they want it now}
many are really impatient too, they need more information freely given than before the information age,
mainly IMO because of the ease of ordering, tracking, communications etc. of online shopping
& even free shipping from allot of automotive type suppliers now
too for them to remain competitive in todays {frugal/cheap} price-point shopper marketplace...
You can thank technology for allot of things including the impatience too...

Good luck to both you 2 {including Bruce/Bruzilla} in the future,
I'm glad to here it is either resolved or received too,
I've read & followed the whole thing a couple now...
 
Kiss and make up. Life is to short. I think Tony explained his business very well and the refund was a total bonus. We need good vendors.....
 
Why do I suddenly feel like this is an episode of GYC? :pain10:

I'm on the west side too so couldn't afford the shipping, most of the time I can't even afford the part much less the shipping. If I remember right the last time I even priced anything from Tony's I think I passed out, woke up and thought I had been violated lmao. How do you guys afford to buy from him? you guys must all be related to Rockefeller? lmao

I'm sure you guys on the east side get to enjoy better deals from Tony's more power to ya :) I'm sure specific parts that are OE fetch premium prices for some vendors but I will ad thank god for car shows and flea markets call me $2 buck chuck cuz I can find just about every OE part for under $100 usually.

Well enjoy your spat it's fun to watch :)
 
Lets see,
1. Saw a part and agreed to price and shipping
2. No tracking offered or asked for.
3. Part arrived in a reasonable time. (ordered on Monday: shipped on Mon: arrived on Thursday)
4. On here Weds to complain

Tony is owed an apology.
 
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My Last purchase from Tony's Mopar was a set of 67 GTX exhaust manifolds
I paid for the S/H without even a blink of the eye to California City, CA from 96 Red Bird Ln, Harrington, DE 19952
I live in the remote part of the Mojave Desert, Edwards AFB
For me to get parts from a reputable seller, I'm thrilled.
Tony's fits my requirements and that is why I replied to Bruzilla.
Excellent price for a one year only part
Excellent shape, better than described.
I personally am a BIG FAN of him and his team.
He has done more for the MOPAR world than many many others.

Thanks Tony for the "other side of the story" as Paul Harvey used to say.

No; I'm not a KISS ***, I just know a good business and business person/team and practice when I see it.

In fact, I posted support for this business a year ago here on the forum.

As far as this post, Tony said it all.
And a 100 percent refund to Bruzilla, wow, !
 
This is all small potatoes and completely not necessary. You seem to have received your stuff in a reasonable period of time.

If you don't like the quoted ship charge, you do have the option to not buy. End of story. Sure it wasn't "cheap", but complaining about it here seems like a cheap shot.

This isn't Amazon. If you expect your "special" item to be properly packed for shipment, allowing for some time to do that is not unreasonable. If you asked, "Can you please ship that today?", yes, I'd expect it would happen.
 
I have bought several things from Tony over the years, and have always appreciated Bruzilla's knowledge on here. It was kind of nice to see you gentleman work it out, respectfully and constructively. 95% of the time things like this blow up and have ended up in **** storms.

Mikey
 
Hi again

I don't know if I made it clear in my prior post, but Bruzillas order did ship on the same day that he placed the order, last Monday Feb 29th

Transit time was 3 business days from when shipped,

So it was shipped on Monday and received on Thursday, 3 business days later

Thanks again
Tony
 
Thanks for taking the time to post here Tony. Worth the advertising.

I didn't know about you before, and now you'll be on my list.
 
Through out my tenure here on FBBO. I have seen a number of this type of commentary coming from Bruce/Bruzzilla regarding numerous subjects and topics. He can be very informative and insightful for the most part. Yet he will continually remark in the negative as he seems to revel in the "Glass Half Empty" approach to things instead of the more positive, "The Glass is Half Full". And it for the most part is repeatedly spun this way. As for the whole topic of this discussion, it is nothing more than whining and venting about little and really insignificant drivel. Tony...You are more than a stand up guy here. Your explanation back and the response you have given is superior Customer Service. In fact for you to reimburse the entire amount and still let the customer, in this case Bruce/Bruzzila, retain and keep the part!!!! Well that to me far out weighs any and all further discussion between you both as you have done exactly what I would have done myself in this instance. Kudo's Sir and to Bruzzila???Lighten Up Francis. Life is way too short to get your panties all in a wound knot, ya:jerk: ...cr8crshr/Tuck
 
Tony has a great rep and been in this hobby many decades.

the USPS???? I had to mail a very small light "something or other" week ago, I made trip to P O to get a figure for the buyer. I was amazed that priority mail was only $60 cheaper than reg rate plus it came with $50 of insurance !!!! I have to wonder if USPS doesn't frequently change their rates!??????
 
I think Bru just got violated oops :sad5:


Through out my tenure here on FBBO. I have seen a number of this type of commentary coming from Bruce/Bruzzilla regarding numerous subjects and topics. He can be very informative and insightful for the most part. Yet he will continually remark in the negative as he seems to revel in the "Glass Half Empty" approach to things instead of the more positive, "The Glass is Half Full". And it for the most part is repeatedly spun this way. As for the whole topic of this discussion, it is nothing more than whining and venting about little and really insignificant drivel. Tony...You are more than a stand up guy here. Your explanation back and the response you have given is superior Customer Service. In fact for you to reimburse the entire amount and still let the customer, in this case Bruce/Bruzzila, retain and keep the part!!!! Well that to me far out weighs any and all further discussion between you both as you have done exactly what I would have done myself in this instance. Kudo's Sir and to Bruzzila???Lighten Up Francis. Life is way too short to get your panties all in a wound knot, ya:jerk: ...cr8crshr/Tuck
 
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