Was i wrong ?

[Bladecutter]

I did ask the question, so i am subject to everyones opinion. And you are most certainly entitled to yours. But i disagree with your ( 3 ) reasons why. In #1 i don't agree that saying, excuse me you dropped this, and handing it to him, would be considered by all to be starting an altercation. And could be considered a kind gesture returning a dropped item. Imo the altercation started when he threw it at me. In #2 they were approx 10 years my senior. And i do understand respect for elders. Hence my kind aporoach. But littering is wrong at any age. Especially for those old enough to know better. As for #3, i fail to see where you listed anything i did wrong. Thanks for your input though.

I'm TOTALLY in Your corner Man, GOOD for You to point out their sloth, ignorance, insolence, arrogance etc, etc, etc. I LOATHE ******* litter pigs! The most base form of disrespect there is to literally **** on the GIFT of LIFE,,,LIFE is Our God, puts Us here, enables Us to experience,,,,,,then to say Thanks by throwing personal refuse at it .....BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! I confront litter pigs a lot, have ended up in physical altercations with them. The times I don't confront them, I'm always guilty afterward. Littering is disgusting behaviour!!!!!!!!

 

[Johnpat]

Alot of advice on here,but I was raised to respect
this planet and the people around me
I'm a hunter & fisherman, don't leave any place
without leaving it better than I found it.
Some people think they are not responsible
for anything,that's part of the problem, I think
you did the right thing to bring it to their attention.

'

 

[44070dart]

WHOA !! .. must of been one hell of a pop can

 

[Budnicks]

were you wrong ?

oh hell no

 

[cr8crshr]

Nope, not one bit!!!! In fact regardless of the outcome had the Police been summond, I still would have punched his lights out, accepted my arrest, and paid the fine. We used to be able to settle these things, Mano e Mano. But no more as the PC culture has taken over and really FOOKED things up. Jerks like that need an *** whoopin' IMHFO...cr8crshr/Tuck

 

[steve from staten island]

The great people that made this country are not the types that would have passively walked away. They were the types that would have taken a stand.

There is nothing passive in not getting into a physical confrontation with some asshole. I have to ask you when was the last time you went toe to toe with another man and swung it out? How many times have you been knocked out in a street fight, wound up in the ER or spent a night in jail? How many times have you came home hands busted up from somebody else teeth, blood all over you, theres and yours?
The last real fight i had was in my later twenties. The last time i put the gloves on and went at it with a guy was in my late thirties early forties. Someone threatens me or my family and gets in my face I'm doing what i have to and deal with it later, otherwise I'm walking away.
Just remember one thing that a guy who could handle himself who trained me once told me.. The best fight he ever had was the fight that never happened.

 

[Aarons Air]

Get involved when it's something serious and worth it, (like if he was beating his wife) not for a pop can.
Pick your battles / bigger fish to fry....
You said the guy was in his 60's! If you popped him good and he fell back and smacked his head and hemorrhages guess who's gonna serve some prison time?
- Over a pop can.

Perhaps youre right. But i would think, with him approaching me as i was walking away & flipping a cig in my face, it would be considered self defense.

 

[69a100]

As usual, I'm late to this party!

Whether you're right or wrong, it's best to never get involved with an asshole. Nothing good for you will come out of it.

B.S; it just encourages the A-hole to do it again!

If you wanted to be the better person, you should of just thrown the can away yourself, and never bothered the couple.

B.S; See my reply above!

Just remember actions speak louder than words.

Let's not forget that the action of having a can thrown at you is a lot louder then saying, "excuse me, you dropped this"! Think about it!

 

[Kern Dog]

There is nothing passive in not getting into a physical confrontation with some asshole. I have to ask you when was the last time you went toe to toe with another man and swung it out? How many times have you been knocked out in a street fight, wound up in the ER or spent a night in jail? How many times have you came home hands busted up from somebody else teeth, blood all over you, theres and yours ?

Nothing passive? Define passive! It means to allow, to not interfere.
I do pick my battles. If the guy were a 30 something dude in a karate robe, a thug with a gun or a retarded person, I'd surely tone it down but still say something.
I have held the door for people that didn't thank me and I have called them out on it, same with people that I have let in front of me in traffic. If someone does not display some form of THANKS for a favor, they will get called out if I see it.
I may have poured the soda out and tossed it in the mans car and say...."Hey...These are worth almost 4 cents each...I wouldn't want a classy guy like YOU to miss out on that".
It isn't always aggression from me, I'd rather leave them thinking rather than bleeding. My smart *** demeanor prevails most times.
I've been in bar fights, schoolyard fights, boxed with friends and cousins on and off when I was a kid through young adulthood. I can take pain and am not afraid of blood. I don't look for trouble but I don't run from it either. No, I have never been knocked out. I don't live in a rough, big city. I have all my own teeth, (Take THAT Rio Linda) no plates in my head or pins in my hips.
Maybe I will soften my tone as I get weaker with age but as of today, I am willing and able to defend myself.

 

[Dennis H]

You havE confirmed that we are fucked. A lot of this is cultural. Shithole former residents come here and think they are back home. More often than not. The general public are mostly littering morons.

 

[67 coronet]

lots of interesting responces here. i would have pored the coke all over the car( does wonders for paint) and said "dont worry ill throw it away." you were correct in what you did. just went about it a little wrong. always have others start any physical contact, first rule of security. by throwing the can in the car, you started the physical contact. very slight, but it makes all the difference if it escalates.

 

[steve from staten island]

Nothing passive? Define passive! It means to allow, to not interfere.
I do pick my battles. If the guy were a 30 something dude in a karate robe, a thug with a gun or a retarded person, I'd surely tone it down but still say something.
I have held the door for people that didn't thank me and I have called them out on it, same with people that I have let in front of me in traffic. If someone does not display some form of THANKS for a favor, they will get called out if I see it.
I may have poured the soda out and tossed it in the mans car and say...."Hey...These are worth almost 4 cents each...I wouldn't want a classy guy like YOU to miss out on that".
It isn't always aggression from me, I'd rather leave them thinking rather than bleeding. My smart *** demeanor prevails most times.
I've been in bar fights, schoolyard fights, boxed with friends and cousins on and off when I was a kid through young adulthood. I can take pain and am not afraid of blood. I don't look for trouble but I don't run from it either. No, I have never been knocked out. I don't live in a rough, big city. I have all my own teeth, (Take THAT Rio Linda) no plates in my head or pins in my hips.
Maybe I will soften my tone as I get weaker with age but as of today, I am willing and able to defend myself.

Then we dont agree on what passive means and I'm not knocking you either, what I'm trying to get across is doing what this guy did might not have been the best approach. Im also not questioning defending yourself. Either way Greg i make it a point not to F with union carpenters LOL.... BTW its not a karate rob, its a gee and dont let that intimated you LOL

 

[Kern Dog]

Ha ha, Yeah, I can see that it may not seem smart to confront strangers....but sometimes we don't do what is safe or smart, just what we feel that we need to do.

 

[44070dart]

AArons Air ..I think you can see from some of these responses that it is best NOT to confront someone over a inappropriately placed pop can .. definitely some anger management customers here

 

[Kern Dog]

That is YOUR opinion. Who determined that it is BEST ???
Others have an opposing view.

 

[44070dart]

Like I said anger management needed by some .. no caps here

 

[Aarons Air]

One thing i've noticed by reading here is that we all seem to have strong beliefs in whats right and wrong. And on a lighter note, on the flip side, if this were a chebby blog, i don't think this would even be a topic. Ha !

 

[JB400]

Lets put it this way. If you threw the can away yourself, 2 things would of happened. 1, you would have the satisfaction of throwing it away. Despite someone else's ignorance, you solved the problem of a can that wasn't thrown away. 2, if someone saw you pick it up after seeing the idiot throw it down, you might of been praised for picking it up.

There is no praise for someone that creates a conflict. Anyone that does, is just dragging you down with them

 

[Aarons Air]

Lets put it this way. If you threw the can away yourself, 2 things would of happened. 1, you would have the satisfaction of throwing it away. Despite someone else's ignorance, you solved the problem of a can that wasn't thrown away. 2, if someone saw you pick it up after seeing the idiot throw it down, you might of been praised for picking it up.

There is no praise for someone that creates a conflict. Anyone that does, is just dragging you down with them

I'm unclear as to the meaning of your post. Are you implying my intent was to seek conflict and or praise ?

 

[Mike67]

You started out polite handing it to the guy asking if he dropped it, no issue, no conflict, in return he threw it at you, issue initiated as well as conflict.
When he approached aggressively , regardless of his age, I would have been prepared to defend myself just as you.
I would hope you would do it again!