What dates to be correct from number matching a 69 RR

[99ss]

If I wanted a numbers matching drivetrain what date codes or what do I need to match up for my 69 roadrunner?

 

[RustyRatRod]

I think it would all depend on the production date of your car. You'd want to try to get as close as you could to that......at least I would. Say yours was made in July 69 and you found an engine from September of 68. That wouldn't really be a match if you were really trying to go more for originality. Maybe something made within the same quarter as your car would be about right I would think. Course, I might be wrong as all hell. LOL

 

[ply64post]

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If I wanted a numbers matching drivetrain what date codes or what do I need to match up for my 69 roadrunner?

I think it would all depend on the production date of your car. You'd want to try to get as close as you could to that......at least I would. Say yours was made in July 69 and you found an engine from September of 68. That wouldn't really be a match if you were really trying to go more for originality. Maybe something made within the same quarter as your car would be about right I would think. Course, I might be wrong as all hell. LOL

Here is a site that you can spend time in, lots and lots of good information for casting and date codes.


http://www.mmcdetroit.com/

What Code on my part? *on the sidebar.

Jeff

 

[69Coronetrt]

If I wanted a numbers matching drivetrain what date codes or what do I need to match up for my 69 roadrunner?

I'm not sure I understand your question....'numbers matching' means the engine that came with the car is still with the car. The VIN stamped on the block matches the VIN on the dash. If the original engine is gone, then the car cannot be 'numbers matching'.

If you are putting a non original engine in the car, I think what you want is 'date correct'.

 

[99ss]

Yes thats what I wanted to know... so the best I can really hope for would be date correct.

Is it worth it? Would the car do better at a show and be worth more money if the engine was date correct?

 

[Budnicks]

#'s matching cars

:iamwithstupid: Actual 100% #'s matching make the car worth supposedly, something like 20% more {especially even more, if it's a rare car like A12 or Hemi car etc., not so much in a base model car or not so rare example} than just restored non #'s matching in the same condition... But a "date coded correct" car, as long as it's within the the same production year or close to the build date as possible, it shouldn't effect the value too much, but will never be worth as much as a 100% #'s matching car ever... especially when it's a Mopar product, they were really **** about #'s on the cars, VIN, Fender Tag, trunk drip rail, radiator support, Engine & transmission {not all years have the Vin on the block}, so are allot of the Mopar buyers, most the rest of the Automotive MFGR's didn't, do or care, for many years, like Chrysler Corp. & buyers did/do {it's a niche' industry now}...LOL... If your building it for resale/Flip it's very important, if your building it to enjoy & drive, who really cares, except the die hard purists !!... IMHFO once they are restored, they aren't original anymore, anyway !!...

 

[69Coronetrt]

Yes thats what I wanted to know... so the best I can really hope for would be date correct.

Is it worth it? Would the car do better at a show and be worth more money if the engine was date correct?

Only you can determine if it is 'worth it'. Will a dated coded block add value over one that's not close. Probably not.

I'm in the camp of once the engine is gone, it's gone and what ever you put it doesn't make any difference. It could be from the week before and be 'date correct' but it's still not the original engine. To some people, it's important...but I don't understand why.

Depends on what level of 'show' you are talking about and the 'rules' for that show. For local/regional shows, no it probably will not matter at all.

 

[Propwash]

Would the car do better at a show and be worth more money if the engine was date correct?

How about drop a big stroker in your bird, wait for the date correct/stock rides to come out of the car show and then dance circles around them? Hehehehehe....

That's my plan anyways :icon_axe:

 

[99ss]

Its all up in the air right now.. still waiting on the stork to deliver but I am thinking about it and running ideas through my head.

 

[696pack]

I would suggest you read this thread and read ALL of it.

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?10596-Matching-Numbers-defined

The Corvette guys with the National Corvette Restorers Society (NCRS) do a pretty good job of breaking it down for points starting with the correct parts casting number and casting date for the engine, then the correct stamped code IDing the engine and where built. There are points assigned to both of these things and of course it has to be date correct for when the particular CAR was built. I don't know if The Mopar OEM judging goes tat far or not. If the car is a high value car (Hemi or 6 pack) it likely is not worth all the extra expense to locate the date code correct items. If you are lucky enough to find it locally without much extra expense and they are items you need to purchase regardless then of course do it.

 

[99ss]

Will I've got one expensive motor already...LOL makes way more power than you can even use so I was thinking about a simpler build for this one...LOL

I think there is something to be said for the car representing the way it came from the factory but I like to mod them as well as is evident by my Camaro... which I built as a tribute to a 70 hemi cuda to be honest..... The car I will never own.

 

[696pack]

Will I've got one expensive motor already...LOL makes way more power than you can even use so I was thinking about a simpler build for this one...LOL

I think there is something to be said for the car representing the way it came from the factory but I like to mod them as well as is evident by my Camaro... which I built as a tribute to a 70 hemi cuda to be honest..... The car I will never own.

Please explain how a Camaro is a tribute to a 70 Hemi Cuda?????

 

[99ss]

LOL......massive power sleek styling.... Can never afford a hemi Cuda but I was able to build the Camaro and to be honest I dont think there was ever a Camaro with as much power ( as a hemi cuda). Yes I built my car to honor a 70 hemi Cuda. Tribute honor what ever.. no its not a clone ...hahahaha

 

[Budnicks]

Please explain how a Camaro is a tribute to a 70 Hemi Cuda?????

yeah, I was kind of wondering the same thing ??, maybe it's just a lose interpretation, of a bad *** car...LOL.. I guess... But the 69 ZL-1 & 70 Baldwin Motion Camaro's were pretty bad *** cars too...

 

[99ss]

it's just a lose interpretation, of a bad *** car.....

You nailed it ! I was never a copo or baldwin fan... mopar was and is still my favorite 60-71 car

 

[Budnicks]

You nailed it ! I was never a copo or baldwin fan... mopar was and is still my favorite 60-71 car

mine too, I do like many other cars, but I love MoPar's...LOL...