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What the heck dont you understand.................????

BIGSHCLUNK

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Ok , so were looking for a "new" driver/utility guy at the shop. One of the BIG things on a commercial automobile insurance policy is a good driving record. My insurance company currently goes back 5 years. So this afternoon a guy comes in to fill out an application. Meanwhile another guy comes in to inquire about the position. The first thing my manager stresses is good driving record. The guy tells him he had a ticket for speeding last year. Sorry.................. that's not gonna make it. Meantime the other guy continues to fill out the application he has. He's only 4 feet away from the guy my manager is talking too. So later in the afternoon, I do my customary background check. 23MPH over the limit in 2011. R U FREAKIN RETARDED???? What part of clean driving record don't you understand????

If I could get a dollar for every minute of my time wasted... I'd own my own key in Florida!



thanks for letting me rant, feel better now............
 
Soooo what exactly are you getting at here......Im kidding if u don't see











I was a delivery driver for 2 years would love to get back into that ...
 
I use to go thru the same type thing in the construction/facility management businesses, I would state in the advert. Experienced Carpenters needed {or what ever position}, you need dependable transportation & proof of insurance {just to get to work, I supplied a Co. Truck for during business Hrs & work related stuff}, must have basic carpentry tools & tool pouches {what ever applicable to the job}, punctual & good attendance, clean driving record, also they have to be able to be bonded, references from other employers optional... I would get all types applying, Union & Non-Union positions, most all had crappy driving records or no license at all, crappy POS cars not truck at all or on parole w/criminal records then "that can't be bonded either", no tools or total crappy tools, most late even for the interview, no insurance, etc... I didn't mind a few tickets if they weren't bad ones, like 20+ over or DWI or DUI or restricted licenses... I sware, I would go thru 100-150 job apps every time, with maybe 1 or 2 qualified people, even the ones from the Local Carpenters Union/Hall... I even had a Union guy sent from the local union Hall, show up at a jobsite the 1st day with a 2 Bud Tall's in each pouch, but at-least he had tool pouches/belt, that was better than allot of them would... Union Carpenters & Union Electrician were usually always the worst, The hall would keep sending them over anyway, I think it was absolutely hilarious sometimes, most people, especially if they don't run their own business, really don't know what we all go thru, as an owner & employer, all they see is, what am I getting paid ?? & what are my benefits ??, when's payday ??... Sorry rant over
 
It's the same everywhere. We would have to interview 20 or 30 people for our delivery driver jobs just to get one that was qualified when I worked at the parts store. I think most of them were just trying to stay on unemployment by applying for jobs that they would never get.
 
Rite now it is so tough to find help....let alone good help or even ok help....I give interview after interview...same thing do you have tools, a car, we go home when the job is done not at 4 o'clock.... 75% show up with an adjustable wrench??? WTF where is the list of tools I gave you to bring? or the guys showes up 5 min late in a taxi??? WTF where is your car? I have 2 interviews tomorrow....
 
Then you guys will understand the biggest misnomer in the English language..... employ ease should be employ PITA
 
Then you guys will understand the biggest misnomer in the English language..... employ ease should be employ PITA

:iamwithstupid: I had a few really good guys, over 20+ years of doing business for a large dealership group, the guys who wanted to work piece work were very well paid & worked their *** off, but were very well compensated for that hard work & effort... I had the same 14 people full time for over 20 years, it took like 8 years to get them, the rest were just usually there for work experiences & a paycheck, usually didn't give a crap about me or my business, the customers, only themselves, only punching a time clock, getting great benefits or that payday was on Friday, getting hammered over the weekend & broke again on Monday...
 
Gents, we are in an unbelievable situation; record high "unemployment", yet no one qualified to work in our trades. We are really going down the sh*tter. My dad owned his own business from the time he was 32 until he sold it at age 62. We always had a few clowns working for us, but it's in a whole new league now.

Good luck and God speed to you small businesses - we pray for you.
 
I had people come in to fill out an application, then ask for a pen! To top that off, they would then ask for a phone book so they could look up their references. I took their applications and put them in the "when hell freezes over" file. If they can't bring their own pen and have their information ready, I didn't want them working for me.
 
The media keeps talking about how high the unemployment rates are in this country. From what I've seen around here, a good percentage of the unemployed (and some of the employed) are doing exactly what they are qualified to do, which is absolutely nothing. We would be willing to train some of these people if they showed any motivation or interest in learning anything. A lot of the people that show up can't even fill out the application because they are functionally illiterate. And those are the ones with a high school diploma. Sad.
 
The media keeps talking about how high the unemployment rates are in this country. From what I've seen around here, a good percentage of the unemployed (and some of the employed) are doing exactly what they are qualified to do, which is absolutely nothing. We would be willing to train some of these people if they showed any motivation or interest in learning anything. A lot of the people that show up can't even fill out the application because they are functionally illiterate. And those are the ones with a high school diploma. Sad.

Yep the dumbing down of society. Most of the people that want to work are. The rest are to busy smoking their crack pipes to care. They seem to think that they are "owed" just for breathing air. As long as the government keeps offering freebies, welfare and amnesty we will continue down the sewer. It's almost time for a purge and we need to start in Washington DC.

Thomas
 
Several years ago I had a guy ask if I had the ability to do videography for weddings (I was a professional still photographer.) I told him I could only run one camera at a time so no I didn't offer videography. He said I could hire him to do the video work. I said "great what kind of camera do you own?" He said none. So I said "okay how many weddings have you videotaped in your life?" He said none. So I asked "do you know how to operate a video camera?" He said no. This guy wanted me to hire him then pay him while he was training on how to videotape weddings, then I would have to buy him a camera and pay him to shoot weddings!

Benji
 
My bother in law had a HVAC company and I asked him how many people he had working for him and he said about half of them. Enuff said.
 
Slackers & the truely under-employed

The media keeps talking about how high the unemployment rates are in this country. From what I've seen around here, a good percentage of the unemployed (and some of the employed) are doing exactly what they are qualified to do, which is absolutely nothing. We would be willing to train some of these people if they showed any motivation or interest in learning anything. A lot of the people that show up can't even fill out the application because they are functionally illiterate. And those are the ones with a high school diploma. Sad.

:iamwithstupid: I agree with your statement, about the lazy unemployed, takers, slackers, users & especially in the larger cities & especially the coastal inner-cities for the most part, from what I've observed... It's hurting allot of the small mom & pop businesses, that mostly all supply these large cities, from the suburbs or outskirts... That's how it's always been, In my lifetime anyway & From what I've seen here & many other places anyway... It's way too damn easy to get the govt. to support you, with no work search requirement now & endless subsidies, then if they do get unemployment, it's now extended 100 weeks, then get subsistence on-top of that, they think "why work, I can stay home & play all damn day, just collect their monthly check & EBT card"... that sector has grown 400% in the last 5+ years now, 1 in 5.5 people on some form of govt. subsistence & 45+% get a monthly govt. check... But there is also a big portion "out here anyway", that are 50 y/o & older, victims of downsizing mostly... Some that worked for the same company, industry, possitions almost there whole adult lives, starting just after HS, that are now out of work or under-employed only able to work part time @ fast food or Wal-Mart etc., some for 1-2-even some for 3-4 or more years now, I personally know a couple... Now with no real job/work prospects insight... Most were just HS grads, because that's all that you really needed for work requirements, before the current jerks started screwing everything over... Also there's very little people going into the skilled trades, or industrial or manufacturing industries, the political speaker heads are telling everyone they need to be DR.'s & Lawyers or some other type Professionals, instead of being part of what built this country... Most young people think of the skilled trades or work other than in an office setting to be demeaning or beneath them in social standards... It being shoved down their throats in public schools today, starting in Kindergarten... IMHFO the progressive wussification & progressive social indoctrination of our youth... Like the T-ball teams, Or youth soccer, everyone gets a trophy, just for showing up & participating, why even bother trying... But the un-employment problem is a real issue, there are the lazy scammers, but also not everyone has or needs a college degree, just to work at Mikey D's or live in their parents basement & play video games all damn day on the well educated socialist program...

Then when many of the larger especially inner-city companies rehire, they replace their once ver loyal hard working 50+ crowd, with much younger & less expensive to employ, 20-30 something slackers that are many times "over educated" in the wrong things, to even get & hold a good job, that will work for far less money & much easier to manipulate in the work place... rant over again
 
Owned a small furniture store sales/rentals in the late 80's early 90's....glad that SOB is gone! Had a competitor that kept trying to buy us out and after he tried 3 times and he got turned down, I told my wife to grab his *** if he came in asking again and strike up a deal. 6 months after he owned all of our accounts, he called us up asking if we wanted it back for 40 cents on the dollar lol. Man, I can tell some stories about customers AND employees!!
 
So Sonny hires this 19year old lady.
she works 8 1/2 hours the first day, a Thursday.
so I said, "see you tomorrow at 7:00 a.m........she said...
"Let me put it this way the later I come in the prettier I look"!:icon_eyes:

.....the next day at 8;00 A.M I was told she called in SICK!

A True story by,
Sonny.
 
I cant say I disagree w anything thats been contributed to this thread. All of it is so true and obviously a multi-layerd problem. As of today I've had 9 CL reponses. Two i accidentaly on purpose deleted as soon as I saw them. The rest got the reply - The first step is too come down and fill out an app. So far I've had one email back asking what hours he could apply. One out of nine..... So guess who's been out running all day, and still got the mountain to climb that was here when I walked in? This is total bullshit... how about taking my work ethic, and learning some things you cant learn in school. I know, its easyer to just take my money.... in the form of a gov subsidy or check. GFY! Gawd I'm pizzzzzed!
 
Bud is right. There are basically two types of people out of work or under employed. The slackers who never really wanted to work, and the people that had good jobs (and were probably doing a good job) and got axed through no fault of their own. A lot of the good middle class manufacturing jobs have left the country for cheap (or slave) labor in China, India, or wherever the labor is cheapest. I don't see those jobs coming back anytime soon. Until Americans demand better products and services and are willing to pay a little extra for higher quality I fear that we are going to continue going down the Wal Mart toilet. JMHO. Now my rant's over.
 
Geez, doesn't seem so bad where I'm at. Put out an ad on CL, had a bunch of crap responses as usual, but interviewed 3 guys. All three were good candidates. Picked the best one, he started last week and is doing well.

Guess my business is an anomaly. Family business going strong for 35+ years, we're based in the Bay Area... an urban scene that most on FBBO love to hate. Won't start arguing since this should be in the Political thread anyway, except to say that this country isn't as lazy, screwed up and terrible as some might think, at least from where I sit.
 
hey, good for you! maybe there is still a small pocket or two in this country where people have removed their heads from their anus to see daylight! I've been in business 30years and have watched it going downhill for a long time.
 
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