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What's normal vacuum?

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I have a '70 383, 60 over with an RV cam and Edelbrock 650 carb, otherwise stock. What's considered 'normal' vacuum for an engine like this? I'm getting around 15 inches at 600 RPM, is that okay? Gauge says 20 is normal...
 
I had a vacuum gauge installed in a new '71 383 Road Runner. You won't see 20" unless you're coasting downhill.
 
I have a '70 383, 60 over with an RV cam and Edelbrock 650 carb, otherwise stock. What's considered 'normal' vacuum for an engine like this? I'm getting around 15 inches at 600 RPM, is that okay? Gauge says 20 is normal...
Sounds about right with a RV cam
 
Do you have a foto of the dial face of the vacuum gauge? I would like to see the scale. Thank you.
 
Here it is

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With that vacuum everything depending on it
will be fine
 
This is a situation where being new to the mechanicals, you have to rely on people or tools that you trust as opposed to experience.
In a condition with a totally stock engine with no modifications, 20" of vacuum is easily achieved. The smaller the carburetor, the higher the vacuum in most cases. The milder the camshaft, the more initial spark timing also make for higher vacuum. The gauge you used is likely NOT intended for use with long duration, high lift, long overlap camshafts.
I had a moderate Lunati solid lifter cam in my 440/493 that while idling in gear at 800 rpms would register a 5-8" reading. The car idled a bit rough but made great power from 2500-about 6200. I later switched to a much milder Mopar Performance cam that showed a 12" at 800 idle. Same engine, same everything except for the camshaft.
 
The key here is, what are the specs of the cam. Generally what most call an 'RV' cam is really just the non-HP cam which carries a valve lift of around .435" and 256°/260° duration, about 204°-206° or so @ .050". Lobe separation angle was wide on those factory cams too, the common replacement carries a 113° LSA (increases vacuum). Your carb is about the size of what would have come on a 383. To add some perspective I was getting 15" in a 440 with failing rings, the old comp XE274 (110° LSA cam w/ 60° of overlap and an 850 Demon carb, with other performance mods) So, in my opinion you should have a few more inches of vacuum happening BUT 15" is okay, provided it runs and idles well? It could very well be you've just got some carbon buildup in there. The main thing is, is the gauge fairly steady or does the needle bounce around a bit; if so, how much. Run a can of sea-foam through the carb, or some say to even just put a hose on the carb's vacuum nipple and let it suck a glass of water through it and re-check. I've found that cleaning the buildup out can increase vacuum a few points. Needle fluctuations can indicate sealing and/or valve issues. Important note: Your state of tune will also affect vacuum so make sure your carb and timing adjustments are good before getting too worried..
 
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I'm getting around 15 inches at 600 RPM, is that okay?

That's pretty good, especially if you have power brakes.

Have you tried adjusting for a tad more? With the gauge hooked up to ported vacuum turn your air/fuel screws a little bit while watching the gauge. Tune to the highest reading and back it down "just a smidge".
 
The motor only has 1,200 miles on it, so carbon build up shouldn't be a factor. Carb was set by the book and initial timing is at about 15 degrees. I think it's as good as it's going to get. But the needle is really stable and as you increase rpm it does venture into the 20" range - if say at about 1,200 rpm, can't read the track while under the hood...
 
Put the gauge on the ported vacuum you say? I had it on a T from manifold vacuum. Does that make a difference?
 
Put the gauge on the ported vacuum you say? I had it on a T from manifold vacuum. Does that make a difference?
For testing you want it on manifold vacuum...ported (timed) vacuum comes from above the throttle plates and is at it's lowest at idle--UNLESS your throttle plates are way to far open at idle but that is a whole other issue. Oh if your not hooked directly to the carb nipple make sure your tees and connectors aren't leaking!:eek:
 
Regular dumb 383 RR with factory pattern hp cam = 16 inches of manifold vacuum at 850 or so rpm.
 
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