Whats wrong with kids today?

[Superb Bee]

WE just got done with dinner (my wife and I, the kids ate at applebees, wife made roasted veggies with tomato basil mozzarella bread sticks, they couldn't get out of here fast enough, I enjoyed it) and anyhow me and my wife were talking about this topic and she said "we think the kids are awful, but 30 years ago our parents thought the kids then were awful, and 30 years before that so did their parents"...

I tried explaining THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM, IT IS GETTING WORSE NOT BETTER, AND SAYING "oh we did worse" or "stuff like this has always happened" is NOT an answer...

My wife sees our kids and they are good boys, they take after me a bit so they aren't the sharpest hammers in the basket, and they do things that make you scratch your head on an hourly basis, BUT they do what they are asked, they are respectful, they do "satisfactory" in school, and they haven't set the house on fire while we sleep yet, so I try not to complain.... BUT there are some kids out there that need help or at least need to be looked into, and I think we need someone to look into what we have to do as a society to change what is happening...

We have some really smart people out there, instead of them focusing on a new app or what Donald trump is tweeting, let them work on how to make our kids not kill each other.. It may be something as simple as "something in the water"...

 

[Darthomas]

Authority and discipline are fully devalued in our society today because these are regarded as male attributes, and demonized as part of patriarchy.

It is an extension of feminism, in that if a man is of no authority over a woman, neither does he hold any authority over his children.

And courts uphold this.

 

[BeeKool]

I understand what your saying but you are missing a few facts. There is a difference between a few kids kicking in a few dollars and buying what we called a nickel bag and smoking some dope and drinking some beers and a drug dealer were large sums of money are often involved. Illegal drugs are responsible for reeking more havoc on our society than anything else. The majority of people in prison are there because of drugs, the majority of robberies are because of drugs. More than a few families have members who abuse and are hooked on drugs and those members were raised in a stable environment .

It's the $$$. I'm not sure what the amount in this case is but probably not more than a thousand dollars. To end somebody's life and spend the rest of yours in prison over a couple thousand dollars is crazy.

You were telling about you're experience in Catholic school. Did the people there ever worry about a student kicking their ***? Probably would have severed them right. I saw that happen in Jr. High. Principal was a dick head and a student caught him in the chin w a haymaker Student was suspended for a month, principal was fired.

Same with parents who are too abusive, sooner or later the son has the ability to return the favor. Because I didn't have my son until I was 35, odds are he could kick my *** by the time he's 18. Hopefully I learn him better than that. But, if he throws a fit in public when he's little, out to the parking lot for a learning lesson

 

[Speedbird]

I'm not much older than those kids. Sucks the situation played out that way for all the families involved.

I think I may be one of the younger members here by how I'm perceiving other replies. Yes some of the the millennial generation children are self righteous, self absorbed, entitled and etc. That is not all of us though. Some of us had to grow up in real households with real parents, whom gave us real responsibilities.

Lets not act like the millennial generation and their way of thinking is not a learned behavior though. They had to get self righteous thoughts, the perceived self entitlement and lack of responsibilites from somewhere right? Maybe from their parents whom taught them to be that way? So I think there is blame to go to multiple generations for the mess we are in.

I just hope I can raise my kids to have at least 2 beans in their head by the time they are 18.

End rant.

When (if) you have children I want you to use what I did on mine.
It goes like this: "If you are going to blame me for the bad things you do, I get the credit for the good things you do."

 

[wahya]

Don't know what's in the spray bottle? Here I'll try some.http://www.wptv.com/news/region-mar...t-for-imposing-excessive-disciplinary-actions

 

[Superb Bee]

Don't know what's in the spray bottle? Here I'll try some.http://www.wptv.com/news/region-mar...t-for-imposing-excessive-disciplinary-actions

See in this story lays a few answers, heres the facts...
1- alcohol is against the rules in school and the girl is in the 8th grade.
2- she knew it was alcohol, she said so in the interview, so not like she was tricked
3-there is a predetermined punishment for consuming it in school
4-she is guilty of it
5-she doesn't like the punishment

SO? the mom calls the news and I am sure facebooked the **** out of it, makes flyers, is going to picket the school, and fight for her daughter to get away with breaking the rules...

I am aware everything is not cut and dry, but there was a lot of kids in that school that didn't break the rules that day and she made her choice, by not making her follow the punishment, you are embedding habits, if she has to go to the other school and get suspended for 10 days, next time someone says here try this (maybe it will be heroin) she will think a few times about it before doing it.. But if she doesn't get punished then whats the harm..

I blame that one on the parent, I say bang her in the nose with a jewelers hammer..

 

[jdenney741]

When (if) you have children I want you to use what I did on mine.
It goes like this: "If you are going to blame me for the bad things you do, I get the credit for the good things you do."

That's a good one.
I currently have two children they are 2 and 4. They don't really blame me for anything just yet. My wife and I work with them daily to try and get them to be respectable kids. Hopefully our hard work pays off one day, I really don't want to raise a couple of little ********.

 

[Darthomas]

I am proud of how well my kids have turned out so far, despite the bad influences they have been exposed to.

Fortunately they understand that my example shows how to live a productive life, despite the fact that feminism and the courts would remove me entirely from their lives.

In a well balanced world, someone directs the family, hopefully both parents.
When one parent refuses to share control AND uses some crutch like feminism to justify immature behavior, it's difficult to influence much... except let my children's common sense witness bad behavior to learn how NOT to treat others.

 

[ws23jrt]

I am proud of how well my kids have turned out so far, despite the bad influences they have been exposed to.

Fortunately they understand that my example shows how to live a productive life, despite the fact that feminism and the courts would remove me entirely from their lives.

In a well balanced world, someone directs the family, hopefully both parents.
When one parent refuses to share control AND uses some crutch like feminism to justify immature behavior, it's difficult to influence much... except let my children's common sense witness bad behavior to learn how NOT to treat others.

I am with you on this. (It looks like we both have felt the tug of the gov. in the years of raising our kids for the same reasons).
My kids turned out well in spite of the man hating mother they had and the courts that put her in the drivers seat.
(she used me as a donor to try to make a family with her lesbian girlfriends).
My kids mother has passed on and since that happened we (my son and daughter) have been able to gather up bits and pieces of a very troubled non family life that we all regret.
The up side is they have their families to raise and have learned how dark it can get in life when someone lives only for themselves and a life style that rejects reality to the point of being a lasting poison that infected several generations.

 

[BeatersRus]

my son had his neon fall apart..literally
it rotted the arm right off,and it then fall apart at a stop sign.
front wheel,cv joint,the works.
i tried explaining to him how lucky he was,
as i looked up the 2 mile long hill that he had come down....
he didnt get it..

then,i helped him take it to the yard...
loaded it full of junk so hed get more money,
took him to the yard.
and he spent 90% of the time attached to that cellfone.
my friend actually commented on the laziness..

its incredible how bad it is nowdaze.
i most Certainly didnt raise him that way.

i sometimes think we are a dying breed,
and when we are gone,there will be no-one left to fix anything.
if the lights went out tomm,sad to say,
the survival rate would be....low.

 

[Ron H]

mopar 3 B you have given me a new look at life! Kids actually dumb down and become an adult! Got me to thinking of my youngster years. I didn't give a **** about much other than my car, girl friends, and buddies to down a few brews. I had no worries, no interest in politics, world affairs, and I slept so well! Then around my early 20's I got dumber, concerned about a career, went to college, got good grades (unlike HS), looking nice, showering every day, voting, on and on. Sort of miss the days when I didn't give a ****! Thanks.

 

[Darthomas]

Years of media input have stunned humanity.
Not because of content particularly,
but because it conditions people to not take action or react in the real world.
When Edison's movie of the steam locomotive coming right at you was shown, many people freaked out because it was the first time that seeing was not believing and they could not dissociate from what they were seeing. Many fled their seats.

Today we are well conditioned to see horrible things and have already prepared ourselves mentally that we are not going to do anything about it, or even be particularly concerned about whether it's real.

The skills humans developed to live by their wits is being erased by the distraction of media .

 

[mmissile]

Technology is making them lazy...added to the media stupidity and numbness. Great combo. Virtual lobotomies.

 

[Darthomas]

In fact we praise movies and television so real we can't tell that the carnage and death we enjoy as "distraction" is not real.

How sick are we, really, that such a stream of violence is marketable and massively profitable?

I just wanna f'n surf.

 

[Darthomas]

But I'm gonna go bowling with my lifesaver bud.

 

[steve from staten island]

mopar 3 B you have given me a new look at life! Kids actually dumb down and become an adult! Got me to thinking of my youngster years. I didn't give a **** about much other than my car, girl friends, and buddies to down a few brews. I had no worries, no interest in politics, world affairs, and I slept so well! Then around my early 20's I got dumber, concerned about a career, went to college, got good grades (unlike HS), looking nice, showering every day, voting, on and on. Sort of miss the days when I didn't give a ****! Thanks.

Those were some great days weren't they!!!!!

 

[steve from staten island]

Im really not getting all this feminist stuff and what it has to do with how good or bad a child turns out. Im also very sorry some of you wound up divorced. It has to be very difficult situation to be in especially with underage children. For the record in todays world females learn from a early age that there gender should not hold them back from accomplishing any of there goals or dreams. I dont see that as a bad thing. My oldest is a girl and i decided that she would never be dependent on anyone other than herself. She attendant a all girls Catholic HS which i found out had the same attitude as i did and encouraged there graduates to be independent educated and strong. While i wont indulge what career my daughter went into outside of a PM, i will tell you she is highly successful, and a happily married woman. Her and her husband have three children. So i think rather than blaming feminism its often whats in a woman's mind and personality that could shape a child's mind. Just my thoughts.

 

[Darthomas]

I'm trying to make the point that if a woman doesn't feel like acting married, society lets it her blow it all up for any reason she sees fit, and it's not possible for a man to give proper direction to children afterward. Which is why having provided a good example has been so important. I planned for all good, but bad happened. My kids know what's really going on, without me having to explain it.
That's worth more than I can describe.

 

[Darthomas]

I'm trying to make the point that if a woman doesn't feel like acting married, society lets it her blow it all up for any reason she sees fit, and it's not possible for a man to give proper direction to children afterward. Which is why having provided a good example has been so important. I planned for all good, but bad happened. My kids know what's really going on, without me having to explain it.
That's worth more than I can describe.

 

[steve from staten island]

What do you mean "if she doesn't like acting married''? She is either married or she isn't or does she want a divorce. Is she never home,doesnt take care of the family?