mr. b
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looking great keep the pics coming
1964 Rusty Bucket transformation
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Crumley
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An update on today's progress. The lower cowl is completely weld. Pictures:
The welds ground down. I didn't take a lot of pains with grinding the welds. The biggest thing was making sure they where flush. This area will be covered with the upper cowl. Pictures:
The next task to tackle....the fire wall. It is full of pin holes from debris sitting in the fresh air area. Picture:
The welds ground down. I didn't take a lot of pains with grinding the welds. The biggest thing was making sure they where flush. This area will be covered with the upper cowl. Pictures:
The next task to tackle....the fire wall. It is full of pin holes from debris sitting in the fresh air area. Picture:
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deja vu! I hope you enjoy repairing this piece as much as I did...
Crumley
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A little progress.
About 3 days ago I drilled the tacks out of the replacement cowl section that I got from Jay. It has been soaking in the de-rusting douche. It was pulled out this AM, and I was hoping that it's fire wall area would be in better shape that the one that came off the car. After the cleaning and soaking, the two firewalls where both in the same condition. In other words both in need of the same amount of repairs. So I will use the lower firewall that came off my car. Pictures:
The area below the blue tape line will need to be replaced. Unfortunately I didn't have enough metal to make it in one piece, and I am not going to make this in pieces. So a trip was made to the big box hardware stores....and guess what???? They, "all of them", only carried 22 gauge or 16 gauge sheet metal. So I am now looking for some 19 or 20 gauge sheet metal.
Since the firewall work couldn't continue, and I wasn't going to waste a day of being able to work in the shop. The lower cowl area got the 1st coat of POR15.
Also, I finally got all of the factory under coating scraped off the under side of the car. Thank goodness that is over with....lol. No pictures though.
About 3 days ago I drilled the tacks out of the replacement cowl section that I got from Jay. It has been soaking in the de-rusting douche. It was pulled out this AM, and I was hoping that it's fire wall area would be in better shape that the one that came off the car. After the cleaning and soaking, the two firewalls where both in the same condition. In other words both in need of the same amount of repairs. So I will use the lower firewall that came off my car. Pictures:
The area below the blue tape line will need to be replaced. Unfortunately I didn't have enough metal to make it in one piece, and I am not going to make this in pieces. So a trip was made to the big box hardware stores....and guess what???? They, "all of them", only carried 22 gauge or 16 gauge sheet metal. So I am now looking for some 19 or 20 gauge sheet metal.
Since the firewall work couldn't continue, and I wasn't going to waste a day of being able to work in the shop. The lower cowl area got the 1st coat of POR15.
Also, I finally got all of the factory under coating scraped off the under side of the car. Thank goodness that is over with....lol. No pictures though.
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Crumley
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Not much to post. I still haven't located a small section of 19 or 20 gauge sheet metal. So I thought I would use some 22 gauge.....all I can say is it bends easy. The 22 gauge metal is just to thin for my liking. Pictures:
So its back to finding some 19 or 20 gauge metal.
The 2nd coat of POR15 has been applied to the lower cowl section. No pictures, not unless ya'll want to a black semi gloss lower cowl...lol.
So its back to finding some 19 or 20 gauge metal.
The 2nd coat of POR15 has been applied to the lower cowl section. No pictures, not unless ya'll want to a black semi gloss lower cowl...lol.
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I used 18ga on mine Crumley, but I found some 20ga at a metal wholesaler. much easier to work with.
threewood
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Lookin good. I guess I am pretty lucky. There is a metal fab shop in town and he pretty much gives away 20ga sheetmetal. I have to force him to take some cash. He has a bunch of big scrap laying around and he will cut it to whatever I want.
Wmlantis
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Just cut the rotten part of my cowl out and feel like the luckiest guy in the world. Only 2 small pin holes in the lower.
Crumley
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Glenwood, I ended up ordering a piece of 24"x 24", 20 gauge sheet metal on line. Hopefully it will be here in a 3 or 4 days.
Threewood, at least there is someone local you can deal with. I am a pipe fitter and you would think, our sheet metal department would have some 18 gauge laying around...but, they didn't.
Wmlantis, keep you fingers crossed and say your "prayers". I am pulling for you buddy. The area looks pretty good. Hopefully, that is all the holes that will need to be dealt with. Usually, after removing the rust, either with a wire cup brush on a side grinder or sand blasting. It usually ends up looking like "Swiss cheese". If it ends up looking like Swiss cheese, learn laugh to keep from crying. I have done the "laughing part" a lot on this restoration. Another option for rust removal, that is less destructive, is naval jelly, steel wool and a lot of elbow grease. This process will save as much metal a possible. Good luck and keep us posted.
Threewood, at least there is someone local you can deal with. I am a pipe fitter and you would think, our sheet metal department would have some 18 gauge laying around...but, they didn't.
Wmlantis, keep you fingers crossed and say your "prayers". I am pulling for you buddy. The area looks pretty good. Hopefully, that is all the holes that will need to be dealt with. Usually, after removing the rust, either with a wire cup brush on a side grinder or sand blasting. It usually ends up looking like "Swiss cheese". If it ends up looking like Swiss cheese, learn laugh to keep from crying. I have done the "laughing part" a lot on this restoration. Another option for rust removal, that is less destructive, is naval jelly, steel wool and a lot of elbow grease. This process will save as much metal a possible. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Superfreak
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wait to you clean it up and you will find more>
Crumley
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Gents, I have been doing a bunch of OT at work, so there hasn't been much time to play with the Belvedere. I did manage to get into the shop today, after doing yard work....lol.
The 20 gauge sheet metal came in. A new piece was fabricated for the cowl..Pictures:
Tacking and clamped on the fire wall to check fitment. More tacking and bending.
Tack and bend to the needed shape.
Comparing the cowls, there is still some trimming to do on the cowl with the new metal.
Checking the fit with the cowl cap on....
Then the piece was welded out and the welds ground down. I ran out of 80 grit sanding paper and POR15. That is about as far as fabrication got today.
Looks, like a good place to crack open a beer and scrape off old paint.....
The 20 gauge sheet metal came in. A new piece was fabricated for the cowl..Pictures:
Tacking and clamped on the fire wall to check fitment. More tacking and bending.
Tack and bend to the needed shape.
Comparing the cowls, there is still some trimming to do on the cowl with the new metal.
Checking the fit with the cowl cap on....
Then the piece was welded out and the welds ground down. I ran out of 80 grit sanding paper and POR15. That is about as far as fabrication got today.
Looks, like a good place to crack open a beer and scrape off old paint.....
Superfreak
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Nicely done there Crumley.
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Looks like you're having fun Crumley! Coming along nicely.
Crumley
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Gents, thank you for the encouraging words. A little update on the 64.
The fire wall is now reinstalled and spot welds ground down. Pictures:
While waiting on the POR 15 to dry, the paint was stripped off the passenger door.
I was surprised to see approximately 7 little factory dings here and there in the door skin.
The fire wall is now reinstalled and spot welds ground down. Pictures:
While waiting on the POR 15 to dry, the paint was stripped off the passenger door.
I was surprised to see approximately 7 little factory dings here and there in the door skin.
572moparman
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Hi there Crumley,Awesome work there can't wait to see it finished!!
Crumley
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Hello, everyone I didn’t realize that I haven’t posted an update in nearly a month. I have been doing the big honey do list…….like having an acre of land around the house and shop cleared of trees. Then having everything regraded.
I also installed an above ground swimming pool….man what fun!!!!!!! NOT. It was a complete pain in the rear end. We might get to use it for another month and then it will be time to close and winterize it.
Well anyway, I got to work on the Plymouth today. The fresh air box area of the cowl and the bottoms side of the upper cowl got epoxy primed. That's all I managed to get done today, I did get by the paint supply house and picked up a pint of “Capri cream” color to paint the inside of the fresh air box.
For the picture hounds out there:
I also installed an above ground swimming pool….man what fun!!!!!!! NOT. It was a complete pain in the rear end. We might get to use it for another month and then it will be time to close and winterize it.
Well anyway, I got to work on the Plymouth today. The fresh air box area of the cowl and the bottoms side of the upper cowl got epoxy primed. That's all I managed to get done today, I did get by the paint supply house and picked up a pint of “Capri cream” color to paint the inside of the fresh air box.
For the picture hounds out there:
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awesome Crumley!
Nice work
ckessel
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See it you can find some paint thats close in color and that will take one of those spray wands from Eastwood or others that has the multiple orfices so you can sneak some paint back into the areas that will get burned off from the welding.
Crumley
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A little update: A little color has been applied to the fresh air box and fire wall. The color is called Capri cream. Currently this is the color that I plan on painting the car. Pictures:
The paint is base coat clear coat. I have a question, is there any point to applying the clear coat since this paint will never be seen? Or is the clear coat needed for finale sealing of the paint?
The paint is base coat clear coat. I have a question, is there any point to applying the clear coat since this paint will never be seen? Or is the clear coat needed for finale sealing of the paint?
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