1969 charger vs r/t technical differences?

[Michael_]

This question is probably very easy to answer for someone who knows them very well.

So what are the technical differences between a 69 charger or charger r/t?

im asking because i am looking up prices on nadaguides and there you can drop in an 440 in a normal charger for example, so if that for example is really available i am asking myself what are the advantages of the road & track package???

 

[Michael_]

According to these website there was no 440 for the base charger, just for the r/t

https://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/dodge/charger_2gen/charger_2gen_r_t/1969.html
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/dodge/charger_2gen/charger_2gen/1969.html

Are there even more differences like frame reinforcement, better suspension/handling, anti sway bars, torsion bars or stuff like that?

 

[R413]

The NADA guides site is wrong. I will mention a few of them. You cannot buy a normal 1969 charger with a 440 engine. That was never available. But you can add that on the NADA website.

They have it so you can add a 440 engine in 1970 Charger R/T. It falsely adds 30% to the car on that site. Well that car is standard with a 440 engine do you should not add it in that car and raise the price, it’s already included in the price.
Also add a 6 cylinder engine to a Charger R/T-we know that’a not available.

You can also add a shaker hood, not available in a Charger, but you can add one to the price on NADA. I chose 1970 to show the shaker hood for a B-body is adding 10% to the car.

 

[R413]

According to these website there was no 440 for the base charger, just for the r/t

https://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/dodge/charger_2gen/charger_2gen_r_t/1969.html
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/dodge/charger_2gen/charger_2gen/1969.html

Are there even more differences like frame reinforcement, better suspension/handling, anti sway bars, torsion bars or stuff like that?

A 440 Charger R/T in 1969 doesn’t have any frame reinforcement from a regular Charger. A front sway bar comes on a V8 Charger.

The torsion bars and rear leaf springs are stiffer. The Driveshaft has bigger U-joints. The transmission is upgraded for the 440 Magnum engine. Chrome exhaust tips for non California cars. The R/T emblems look really cool!

 

[hunt2elk]

Less made = more money.

 

[The Rebel]

Go here.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1969SalesmansPocketGuidesDodge-01.shtml
http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1969DealershipDataBook-03.shtml

 

[PurpleBeeper]

R413 is correct (hunt2elk also). I am NOT a Charger expert, but here is some general information. Within the Charger group of cars, you have:
a. Charger --> smallest engines & least number of options
b. Charger SE --> small/medium engines with more options (WRONG--> SEE POST BELOW)
c. Charter R/T --> biggest engines with more options (you can also get a R/T + SE combined I believe) R/T's have 440's or 426 Hemi

 

[Figgy308]

R413 is correct (hunt2elk also). I am NOT a Charger expert, but here is some general information. Within the Charger group of cars, you have:
a. Charger --> smallest engines & least number of options
b. Charger SE --> small/medium engines with more options
c. Charter R/T --> biggest engines with more options (you can also get a R/T + SE combined I believe) R/T's have 440's or 426 Hemi

Another way to describe that would be
a. Charger you could order from /6 to 383 4bbl
b. SE was a trim line you could add to either Charger or Charger R/T
c. R/T you had the choice of 440 or 426 motors.
The other points about suspension hold.

 

[69L48Z27]

If your looking for values use Hagerty’s valuation tools along with auction data. Hagerty’s site will at least have the right models and engines.

 

[Michael_]

Thanks very much, thats even more that i needed to know.