4 speed in your opinion?

[Cranky]

...and neither are Mopars? Why post them...

If you can't see the Mopar in that vid, then you're freakin blind AND can't read :jerk: What's a Plymouth? The "Plymouth" belongs to Damon AND it's a Mopar :icon_anal: .

 

[Chryco69]

If you can't see the Mopar in that vid, then you're freakin blind AND can't read :jerk: What's a Plymouth? The "Plymouth" belongs to Damon AND it's a Mopar :icon_anal: .

Yeah wasn't sure at first. Why so defensive? lol

 

[ironside]

Just as a heads up too:
The stick race at the Mopar Nats will be happening again this year. I'm in the process of deciding final payouts and that should be done.

Also don't forget UMTR. Awesome guys and lots of sticks.
UMTR Schedule 2014

May 17 Milan (Edgars Race!)
May 25 Quaker City
June 28 Pacemakers
July 12 Dragway 42
July 27 Stick Shift Summernationals National Trail Raceway
Aug 2 Quaker City
Aug 23 Thompson Raceway Park
Aug 30 Pacemakers
Sep 6 Dragway 42
Sep 27-28 Pittsburgh Raceway Park
Oct 11 Thompson Raceway Park

 

[Photon440]

I think all the new Lambo's and Ferraris don't even offer manuals anymore, not that I can ever afford one.

Even the F-1 cars are pretty much automatics. They may have gears, but with electronics controlling the hydraulic clutch and paddle shifters with no clutch pedal, it may as well be auto.

Twenty years ago Williams tried a CVT for racing, but it was more successful than anticipated. Lap times dropped several seconds, and so in 1994 the FIA specified that for Formula 1 cars between 4 to 7 fixed gears had to be used, and banned CVT.

 

[padam]

When I started we ran a hemi box and various cuts up to the last being the face plated setup by liberty. I have cryo'd entire units, mikronited and whatever else. They shift smoother but ultimately still break. This was in a 3300lb 68 Cuda running mid tens.

As always with a stick just as important as the trans is the clutch. For a dedicated drag car sintered iron and adjustable PP are the norm.

Right now in my Cuda I run a gf4a g force four speed and a Ram clutch. It got to the point between breakage with stock pieces and availability it just wasnt worth it. I've put 500+ passes on this setup and its been great. Best pass of 9.93

It'll be a cold day in hell before I run an auto. The clutch setup at first takes a little learning but is not rocket science and most any four speed guys are always willing to help.

You can put a complete setup in a car for 3500-4000. Used Jerico, new clutch etc. I see tons of posts by auto guys and it just seems they have tons of money in converters and always pulling stuff apart. Just my two cents though.

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Here's an in car of mine last year, first pass of the year, I was a little off on pushing the clutch for third-but damn its fun.

I apologize for reviving an old thread, but this one does have a lot of good info.
I’m seriously considering a gf4a g force four speed, and I’ve been told there are a lot of fitment issues.
Can anyone tell me what’s required, such as bel housing (scatter shield), cross member, hydraulic throw out bearing, etc.
Will be going behind a big block, either a 70 challenger or 73 charger.
Any advice is appreciated (except to go to an automatic.)

 

[fourgearsavoy]

Any reason why the decision to run the GF4A ? It is a good transmission and it's light but you may be better off with a Jerico with the weight of your car.
Your crossmember will need to be a custom fabbed unit for sure. When I put the Richmond 5-speed in my Savoy I used the CE crossmember kit for some basic pieces. You will also need a custom shifter mount and linkage to move the shifter back and up enough to clear the T-bar crossmember. You will need a custom pilot bearing made and will need to get a ring machined or your bellhousing custom machined for the bearing retainer pilot.
Liberty Gears makes a Doug Nash style 5-Speed that can be ordered with a Mopar 18 spline input and bearing retainer so you wouldn't need any custom machining done. You could use all Mopar type components with off the shelf parts including the bellhousing and clutch linkage TO bearing etc.

I can help you with some parts and guidance just shoot me a text
330-590-1484

Gus

 

[biomedtechguy]

Just posting again, as I want to encourage ANY manual transmission aficionados to DO IT and do what you can to become proficient.
IF my 572 destroys my 855, I have considered the G-Force and Jerico brands. I hope the 855 works, because I really like it and it fit with no cutting, all stock locations and crossmember.
I'll be watching for answers, suggestions, developments on your post.
NOTE: A few key components I have installed to make my manual transmission live and work for the best performance, especially with the kind of HP/Torque I expect from the 572 Wedge are a McLeod RXT dual disc clutch, the HitMaster launch control that requires a hydraulic throwout bearing that I was going to switch to anyway, or the ClutchTamer by the same company that uses a mechanical clutch including the Chrysler factory parts, Strange chromoly steel everything from slip yoke to pinion yoke and caps, subframe connectors and torque boxes, reinforced spring hanger mounts, and Calvert split mono leaf springs and sliders with Assassin traction bars.

I’m seriously considering a gf4a g force four speed, and I’ve been told there are a lot of fitment issues.

 

[padam]

Any reason why the decision to run the GF4A ? It is a good transmission and it's light but you may be better off with a Jerico with the weight of your car.
Your crossmember will need to be a custom fabbed unit for sure. When I put the Richmond 5-speed in my Savoy I used the CE crossmember kit for some basic pieces. You will also need a custom shifter mount and linkage to move the shifter back and up enough to clear the T-bar crossmember. You will need a custom pilot bearing made and will need to get a ring machined or your bellhousing custom machined for the bearing retainer pilot.
Liberty Gears makes a Doug Nash style 5-Speed that can be ordered with a Mopar 18 spline input and bearing retainer so you wouldn't need any custom machining done. You could use all Mopar type components with off the shelf parts including the bellhousing and clutch linkage TO bearing etc.

I can help you with some parts and guidance just shoot me a text
330-590-1484

Gus

Any reason why the decision to run the GF4A ? It is a good transmission and it's light but you may be better off with a Jerico with the weight of your car.
Your crossmember will need to be a custom fabbed unit for sure. When I put the Richmond 5-speed in my Savoy I used the CE crossmember kit for some basic pieces. You will also need a custom shifter mount and linkage to move the shifter back and up enough to clear the T-bar crossmember. You will need a custom pilot bearing made and will need to get a ring machined or your bellhousing custom machined for the bearing retainer pilot.
Liberty Gears makes a Doug Nash style 5-Speed that can be ordered with a Mopar 18 spline input and bearing retainer so you wouldn't need any custom machining done. You could use all Mopar type components with off the shelf parts including the bellhousing and clutch linkage TO bearing etc.

I can help you with some parts and guidance just shoot me a text
330-590-1484

Gus

The G-Force model I was looking at is actually the G101. I think it is available with the input shaft that matches Chrysler.
I called and talked to them this summer, but I can't find my damn notes. I know a lot of the fast 4-speed guys are running G-Force. But also Jerico, and I haven't heard actual evidence that one is really better than the other.
Liberty would be another option, but again it's hard to find info on all the +/- of each trans.