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'68 Belvedere Basic

yettoblaster

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OK, been here a week or so and scoured some of the back pages.

I guess I should join the "project" party.

So far I've just been surveying the car's systems (oil change, see what works and what doesn't etc.).

It runs fine; handles fair; stops if you stand on the non-power drum brakes; and can lay rubber (though I didn't get a vintage to beat on it, but y'know...).

The body is straight, paint is a 15 year old "Miracle Auto" coat that doesn't look too bad, so the priorities will be first up: the interior, which is bare metal with a light rust patina.

I scrubbed the upholstery with a can of cleaner, and shot some Permatex "Rust Restore" on the places where I'll want to add sound/thermal blanket and carpet kits.

The dash needs a cover. I have a glove box lid. Fortunately the speedo and some gauges work OK, but the dash lights are inop. So little by little as paydays arrive I'll start with the overhead and floor.

The door panels are fine, but I'll need armrests.

I touched up a few places on the exterior where a spot of rust or two was starting, otherwise the priority is interior.

Also need to get the proper 15" stock type steel wheels vs the Valient (14") wheels on it presently, and I need to dial some toe-in into the front end (it wanders, especially at highway speeds).

Trying to keep it on the cheap as it doesn't make too much sense to me to start with a $4k car, then put more money into it than I could get back (until I decide to go full restoration on it).

So far it's just a nice beach cruiser for Sunday afternoons, etc.

I've got other stuff for daily drivers.
 
Not sure how I should handle the holes in the hood. At some point apparently
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it had hood lock pins?
 
Welcome to FBBO. You've got a nice car to start out with. I wish you good luck and a lot of money for restoration. At least you're starting out with a nice car.
 
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Welcome to FBBO. You've got a nice car to start out with. I wish you good luck and a lot of money for restoration. At least you're starting out with a nice car.

Well I figure I have the same chance of winning the lottery whether I play or not!

Bein' as I'm retired (and old) I didn't want my first project car in a long long time to be some frame off restoration of an iconic classic (always wanted a '68 El Camino), at least it's drivable while I nickel and dime away at it.
Might take a while, but someday I wouldn't mind getting it a bit more civilized. Right now it's a bit like driving in a steel drum hard bolted to a locomotive.

Really noisy inside. OK for cruising. TERRIBLE on the highway! ;-)
 
Nice ride, definitely looks worthy of simply enjoying. If I wanted to keep it as a driver and not invest a ton I'd just reinstall a set of hood pins (a lot cheaper than bodywork), upgrade the brakes and rebuild the front suspension as funds allowed. Mushy 48 year old rubber bushings and worn tie rod ends and ball joints won't do you much justice along with a brake system that makes you nervous in todays fast traffic. Enjoy
 
Nice ride, definitely looks worthy of simply enjoying. If I wanted to keep it as a driver and not invest a ton I'd just reinstall a set of hood pins (a lot cheaper than bodywork), upgrade the brakes and rebuild the front suspension as funds allowed. Mushy 48 year old rubber bushings and worn tie rod ends and ball joints won't do you much justice along with a brake system that makes you nervous in todays fast traffic. Enjoy

Thanks!
Yes, that's the plan so far: civilize it enough to enjoy driving it: but no need to (unwisely) invest a ton of money into it. It's no icon. I was attracted initially to it having a straight body and being pre-1974, so I could do anything I wanted to it.

Turns out the 318 is in decent shape (though I have no idea whether or not it's even seen hardened valve seats yet, so it gets a dose of Redline Lead Substitute additive when gassing up).

It's basically my first (leisure) project car. My other projects over the years were necessarily family daily drivers, back when money was tight.

Had a parade of old beaters I managed to keep running for me to commute in, while I kept my wife in a decent family car we'd use for vacations, etc.

I'm enjoying this site though. Lot of nice MOPARS!
 
Cool car even if it's modoor. My first car was a 66 Belvedere II modoor and had lots of fun with it once I dropped in a 383 :D First off, go get some top grade brake shoes for it and get rid of the cheapos that's on it now. Quick easy fix if you don't want to spend the bucks on a disc brake swap right away. Also, most people (hot rodders mostly) complained about the lousy brakes on these cars when they were new and yet went to the auto parts and replaced the already poor linings with stuff that isn't much better and as the years went on, the linings got even worse. You can do a search and find some really good stuff out there for drum brakes. In the early 80's I ran drums on a 10.60 car and had no problems stopping it even when using the 1st turn off using the best linings available at the time.....
 
Cool car even if it's modoor. My first car was a 66 Belvedere II modoor and had lots of fun with it once I dropped in a 383 :D First off, go get some top grade brake shoes for it and get rid of the cheapos that's on it now. Quick easy fix if you don't want to spend the bucks on a disc brake swap right away. Also, most people (hot rodders mostly) complained about the lousy brakes on these cars when they were new and yet went to the auto parts and replaced the already poor linings with stuff that isn't much better and as the years went on, the linings got even worse. You can do a search and find some really good stuff out there for drum brakes. In the early 80's I ran drums on a 10.60 car and had no problems stopping it even when using the 1st turn off using the best linings available at the time.....


Good idea about the brakes. Thanks!

Yeah there are some local hulks in dismantlers I "may" be able to score disc frontends out of, but I like your idea much better!
 
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Just bolt the hood pins to the hood,no need to attach them!

It was too easy just to buy a new aftermarket kit (cheap stainless bubble pack of parts) and use the exiting holes.

Took all of fifteen minutes this morning. Must have been the same stuff as before. I already had some lil' ol' Master locks with a common key, for pistol cases, range bags, etc.

Easy peazy.

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Just love the way the front end looks on the 68. Had a 68 road runner race car but it had all the 68 GTX trim. Most thought it was a GTX but they never noticed it was a coupe....

 
Just love the way the front end looks on the 68. Had a 68 road runner race car but it had all the 68 GTX trim. Most thought it was a GTX but they never noticed it was a coupe....


Nice!

A friend had a Roadrunner when I was in the service a buzzilion years ago. It had a 383 (but was no 10.60 ET car). No Grabber hood. Can't remember if 4-speed or auto.
Another guy in the barracks had a 390 Javelin. The MOPAR could beat him early on, but once the launching was fading that AMC would just eat up the distance between and blow on by!
 
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Today's very simple task involved installing the new front turn signal lenses and gaskets, then of course a road test by the ocean was required, seein' as it's Memorial Day weekend and all the "Woodies on the Wharf" are gathering, etc.

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Nice car...welcome to FBBO. :thumbsup:
 
I've seen heftier brake light switch brackets in my day!

Sheesh!

The tinware is rusty and the whole setup is rinky dink. The brake lights won't turn off, and I guess they were once adjustable at the brake pedal arm.

Jeez, maybe I should just "T" in a real pressure switch type at the master cylinder?

As-is all I might be able to do is bend the bracket a bit, by way of "adjustment."
 
I've seen heftier brake light switch brackets in my day!

Sheesh!

The tinware is rusty and the whole setup is rinky dink. The brake lights won't turn off, and I guess they were once adjustable at the brake pedal arm.

Jeez, maybe I should just "T" in a real pressure switch type at the master cylinder?

As-is all I might be able to do is bend the bracket a bit, by way of "adjustment."


Screw it. $6.99 buys a new plastic switch.

OK. Ordered (plus some new shocks).
 
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Well I figure I have the same chance of winning the lottery whether I play or not!

Bein' as I'm retired (and old) I didn't want my first project car in a long long time to be some frame off restoration of an iconic classic (always wanted a '68 El Camino), at least it's drivable while I nickel and dime away at it.
Might take a while, but someday I wouldn't mind getting it a bit more civilized. Right now it's a bit like driving in a steel drum hard bolted to a locomotive.

Really noisy inside. OK for cruising. TERRIBLE on the highway! ;-)
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