7 QT Dip stick?

[bigmanjbmopar]

Is there such a thing when you have an after market 7 qt pan?

 

[70rr-brian]

Yes. It's not uncommon for them to be included in a kit with the pan/gasket/pick-up etc...

 

[67 B-body]

No special dipstick needed. Full is still full........ it doesn't change.

 

[WileE]

I've used the same dipstick for 40 years now. No matter what size oil pan it's going into. If you put it in as far as it can go, then pull it out... it will let you know if your fluid is at capacity. Don't need any other dipstick. [Disclaimer: this reply is purely technical. Any other interpretation is neither implied or suggested. ] :icon_eyes:

 

[67 B-body]

I've had guys argue that you need a different dipstick with a higher capacity oil pan in the past... It's simply not true unless your oil pan has a different method of attaching the dipstick instead of through the stock location. I have never seen this myself, but wouldn't rule it completely out. My stoper to the argument comes when I show them a picture of the circle track high volume oil pan with the side kickouts and baffels. I point out that it holds 9qts, and ask if the dipstick would have to have a 90 bent in it for the extra capacity?...LOL!!!

 

[Stumper]

I bought a shiney new Milodon SS dip stick to use with my Milodon 10 qt oil pan. Could never get the oil to show up on the stick even after repeated pan drops and checking to make sure the stick was going through, etc. Called Milodon and they claim it was the correct stick. Recently replaced my 10 qt pan with a milodon 7 qt. center sump pan - and the oil still doesn't show up on the stick. I do run a windage tray and additional gasket but you would think they would make the stick long enough to account for this.

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

Well, I have a windage tray and the two gasket set up and a center sump pan. Oil does show up on the stick in the relative area of add and full but i am concerned the reading isn't accurate. The stick does not bottom out but I can't help but feel it is short and I am reading a quart or more low when I am seeing full? does that make sense? Is it possible that it is short and I should just always keep at the full line or a tiny bit over to be safe? Right now it looks like a qt low with this motor still breaking in I don't want to burn it up.

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

oil pan ****

 

[HitIt]

If you think it's off try adding the correct number of quarts for the pan's capacity plus another quart for the filter. Run the engine for a minute then see where the oil level lands on the dipstick and use it for your new full mark.

 

[Stumper]

That's the way to do it - assuming you can get it to show up. One of these days I guess I'll need to try welding an extension on mine. Sucks to pay something like $75 for a fancy new stick that is too short!

 

[HitIt]

That's the way to do it - assuming you can get it to show up. One of these days I guess I'll need to try welding an extension on mine. Sucks to pay something like $75 for a fancy new stick that is too short!

Really no matter the capacity of your pan, it seems like the full oil level should be the same right? I am talking about the distance between the oil level and the crank and it being the same when 'full' in a 5 quart setup verses a 10 quart. Seems like the same dipstick would work. Maybe your fancy dipstick is too short?

Or is a deeper sump pan meant to add capacity AND move the oil away from the crank to decrease windage?

I've got a milodon seven quart pan waiting to replace my stock 5qt pan, so i am curious about this topic.

 

[70redbee]

Check your new dipstick to make sure it is the same length as the original one. The oil for full is measured to the crank and not the depth or capacity of the pan.You could put on an oil pan as wide as the car and dragging the ground but full is still full in relation to the crank. The engine doesn't change or does crank position when chaning the pan. Hope you can understand what I am saying. If the stick shows no oil on the stick or low it is low. The most important thing to check is the length and markings to the original stick.

 

[70redbee]

Really no matter the capacity of your pan, it seems like the full oil level should be the same right? I am talking about the distance between the oil level and the crank and it being the same when 'full' in a 5 quart setup verses a 10 quart. Seems like the same dipstick would work. Maybe your fancy dipstick is too short?

Or is a deeper sump pan meant to add capacity AND move the oil away from the crank to decrease windage?

I've got a milodon seven quart pan waiting to replace my stock 5qt pan, so i am curious about this topic.

The larger oil pan is to increase the capacity so the engine doesn't run out of oil in the pan at higher rpm. If you are running a high volume oil pump this is even more important. High volume and high pressure are not the same.

 

[Stumper]

You are correct that the full level should remain the same. Obviously my stick is too short (one of many issues I have ). Mt posts were just to vent a bit that Milodon would sell a short stick but insist it is the correct length. I don't have an OEM stick handy to compare it too but maybe I should dig one up so I can tell how much to add onto it...

 

[WileE]

You are correct that the full level should remain the same. Obviously my stick is too short (one of many issues I have ). Mt posts were just to vent a bit that Milodon would sell a short stick but insist it is the correct length. I don't have an OEM stick handy to compare it too but maybe I should dig one up so I can tell how much to add onto it...

I gotta give you credit, you're man enough to admit it....:icon_sad:

 

[1badstroker]

I have had this same question for a long time. I have an 8 quart pan and when I put oil to the full line it will burn it until it gets to the 1 quart low mark and pretty much stay there. I put it to the 1 quart low last change and no oil burning?? I have the original dip stick I use.

 

[Cranky]

I have had this same question for a long time. I have an 8 quart pan and when I put oil to the full line it will burn it until it gets to the 1 quart low mark and pretty much stay there. I put it to the 1 quart low last change and no oil burning?? I have the original dip stick I use.

Are you throwing in 8 quarts to get to the full line or more? With a new pan, I like to fill the sump before installing the pan to see how many quarts it holds. I do this with water instead of oil. I've found a couple of pans that advertised a certain amount didn't hold as much and a couple that held more. I have a pan now that's advertised as a 7 quart but just 4 quarts puts the level above the baffles. What good are they if the oil level is higher by 3 quarts and 3 more quarts has the pan nearly completely full? I like to use deeper sumps to get the oil further away from the crank and so stock dipsticks won't register like they do with a stock pan....but I've also been known to not even run with a dip stick....

 

[splicer]

Hey... I'm running a big block 505 cu. in stroker, Milodon 7 quart pan, windage tray, double gaskets, and a stock 440 dipstick.
7 1/2 quarts of oil with new filter comes up right between ADD and FULL, and I burn no oil and have no issues.

If anyone needs measurements, I'd be glad to post same...

Splicer

 

[Stumper]

Which model Milodon pan are you using?

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

I checked my billet stick against the stock one and they are the same size, my oil level hovers at full so i feel good now it is good enough to not burn up the motor.