American Icon: muscle car
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fritter
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Watching it now. This one will be saved on my DVR and viewed quite often in the future methinks. :toothy10:
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Decent show, Chip Foose did an ok job, too short though, not enough information, but at least they got some well needed recognition, for our beloved B-Bodies... Lots of talk about the Roadrunner...
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I don't watch muscle car shows anymore because I'm tired of seeing the label applied to cars that aren't muscle cars.
Muscle cars started out as full-size sedans that were upgraded or modified with performance parts to give them "muscle". Cars like Corvettes were never muscle cars, they were sports cars (small, two-seat, no back seat). The Mustangs started the long front deck/short rear deck compact car movement, and cars that mimicked the Mustang (Camaros, Firebirds, our E-bodies, etc.) were classified as pony cars.
Move ahead a few years, and the sub-compacts have become compacts and now mid-sized cars, compacts have become full size cars, and pony and sports cars are lobbing on to the muscle car name.
Muscle cars started out as full-size sedans that were upgraded or modified with performance parts to give them "muscle". Cars like Corvettes were never muscle cars, they were sports cars (small, two-seat, no back seat). The Mustangs started the long front deck/short rear deck compact car movement, and cars that mimicked the Mustang (Camaros, Firebirds, our E-bodies, etc.) were classified as pony cars.
Move ahead a few years, and the sub-compacts have become compacts and now mid-sized cars, compacts have become full size cars, and pony and sports cars are lobbing on to the muscle car name.
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Interesting how they had Jim Wangers, the GTO guy, do most of the talking about the '68-'69 RR's!
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Probably the Chrysler/Mopar guys are either all dead or want too much cash ..LOL.. to do the show or something along those lines, maybe just a low budget new show... I noticed that too, he made a comment about the 68 RR's stealing their 20% market share from the GTO's...
Probably the Chrysler/Mopar guys are either all dead or want too much cash ..LOL.. to do the show or something along those lines, maybe just a low budget new show... I noticed that too, he made a comment about the 68 RR's stealing their 20% market share from the GTO's...
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It was more like Jim "the"Wangers ,GTO guy.While he did say the RR stole some GTO sales due to the best marketing ,he did belittle the quality of the car.He said the bodies were not of the best quality .Guess the coil sprung body on frame was better for him,as is a snap-on haircut.Not a surprising comment from a GM guy,not sure why it was on the show though. RT
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Wangers is in his 80s now and I think he regrets not soaking up more limelight in his younger days. These days he never misses a chance for some magazine ink or tv facetime, even if it has nothing to do with his beloved GTO. The show and magazine producers keep calling him cuz they know he wont refuse and cuz hes one of the very few characters left from "the day". Plus, he's a colorful guy with good knowledge and an interesting hairpiece.
Even if it is hard to swallow a Pontiac MARKETING guy criticising Road Runner.
Even if it is hard to swallow a Pontiac MARKETING guy criticising Road Runner.
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