An under valued Mopar????

[icetech]

I was really good at it. Back in the 80s, I tried to get a job in the investment field, and nobody would hire me. So I did it for myself, until my day job wasn't necessary.

You are a lucky guy...well.. talented.. i just suck at it, i have played on and off for 20 years and end up just losing. Right now i work 70 hours a week for bout $8 a hour.. soo life is going great Still better than having a boss though

 

[68BabyBlue]

You are a lucky guy...well.. talented.. i just suck at it, i have played on and off for 20 years and end up just losing. Right now i work 70 hours a week for bout $8 a hour.. soo life is going great Still better than having a boss though

I worked for myself as a self-employed truck driver, after my job as a corporate lawyer went up in smoke. On a good year my portfolio made three times as much as the truck. Folks who didn't know me well would always question how I bought classic Mopars on a driver's pay.

 

[gtx6970]

65 and earlier cars are gaining, albeit slowly.

IMO the rising stars are the late 70s early 80s Aspen - Volare cars
Same goes for the Shelby inspired ft wheel drive cars .
And have you ckd SRT4 Neons lately, Good ones are now worth more than they were new

I have an itch for an SRT 4neon or a GLHS Omni .,,,,,, BAD

 

[icetech]

I worked for myself as a self-employed truck driver, after my job as a corporate lawyer went up in smoke. On a good year my portfolio made three times as much as the truck. Folks who didn't know me well would always question how I bought classic Mopars on a driver's pay.

nice work.. i'm going in another trajectory... my goal right now is to pay off my house before i have to close my shop.. it's thursday and i haven't made enough to pay for being open this week yet. It happens though.. just the bad weeks eat at you and good weeks usually make up for it.

 

[68BabyBlue]

nice work.. i'm going in another trajectory... my goal right now is to pay off my house before i have to close my shop.. it's thursday and i haven't made enough to pay for being open this week yet. It happens though.. just the bad weeks eat at you and good weeks usually make up for it.

I always figured I had to put in three days running before I started making a profit, and year over year that could vary by nearly six figures. Still preferred it to being an employee. Hang in there.

 

[Coelacanth]

Compared to some of you guys, I only have ONE Charger, '70. It was my first car I bought when I was 18, a rusty puke-green 383 Magnum beast that was fun to drive. I didn't want something "practical", and I loved Mopars from my earliest memory as a child. I don't know why, I just did; something was just different about them. I never bought the car as an investment, heck it was only $2200 when I bought it, but it was all the money I had. I never gave a second thought to value or appreciation. I didn't want to be one of those guys that approached me all the time, saying "I had this or that Mopar but I sold it, wish I never did!" I'd never sell it, no matter the value these days. I only have one but now I consider myself extremely fortunate to have what became such a desireable car.

I think the Volares and Aspens, though hard to find in decent condition, are pretty reasonably priced that project hunters overlook. I'd love to have one for a daily driver, I'd be happy with a de-smogged 318 in one of those.

Up in Canada, I see reasonable prices on half-decent land yachts from the mid- to late-60's. I had a '68 Monaco winter beater with a 318 and I'd pick one up if the price and condition was right.

I think C-Bodies can be found in decent condition; up until the early 70's, many of them had 383's and I owned a '70 Monaco 4-door with a 383 2-bbl and I really miss that boat. I'd love to have another in 2-door form someday.

 

[barbee6043]

I have had a few F bodies, sold the last one maybe 4-5 years ago. The F body guys are a great group, they love their cars. Like anything, the really desirable models in good condition are hard to find and hard to get ahold of. I don't see them as good candidates to spend $ on.
The guys (like me0 that relate to early B bodies are dying off, not good for a model and the market.
I have owned many Mopars since the 80s, Slants to hemis and all in between, retored too many, and I will say, 95% of the time, the only ones I ever made a profit on were the ones I spent NO money on and bought decades ago when a desirable model could be found and not at a silly price!!

 

[OneWheelPeel]

Chrysler TC by Maserati, particularly the 501 with the 5-speed and Cosworth engine.
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'91-'92 Spirit R/T and '92-'93 IROC R/T with the Lotus engine.
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Numbered Shelby cars/trucks.
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Rampage/Scamp.
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I've always wanted one of the Rampage trucks, I don't think I would fit well but it would be a great around town Home Depot vehicle. I have a Daytona thats older than the one you pictured and I can't even give it away.

 

[1967coronet]

For a while, top dollar on a 71 Charger (non-Hemi) was 30K, while a similarly optioned 72 was stuck at 10K.

Not a gap like that at all any more.

Yep, aprox 12 years ago i stopped bidding at $14k on a 71 at a estate sale.
340 4 spd original , had the correct hood , original paint and black vinyl top. Dark green looked like F8 or simular.
It sold at 18k and change. I thought the last to bidders were in to deep.
Not now looking back.
This was a running driving nice car.

 

[SteveSS]

Yep, almost the same as it ever was-

75-79 B
F/M/J
Pre-1964 A body and certain 65-75

 

[Kern Dog]

I saw a guy at Carlisle last year with a 1978 (?) Volare Road Runner. He had swapped a Hellcat engine into it, and had done a super clean, nice job with it. I'm sure it surprises a lot of cars as it leaves them in the dust!

Point is, with an engine swap, I wonder if these will start appreciating because they look the part of a muscle car. With a Gen 3 Hemi they might be a desirable car?

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I actually like these cars EXCEPT for the engines. The 150 hp 318s with 3 catalytic converters could not breathe over 3500 rpms.
ALL of them are subject to emission testing here in CA, meaning the gutless 318 stays along with the restrictive exhaust systems.
No thanks.
I thought last year as I was contemplating a move to Arizona that I could then justify buying one since then I could go buck wild with it.

 

[451Mopar]

Is there such a thing? A Mopar that hasn't skyrocketed but is still cool in your opinion. It can be a Mopar that needs an engine swap as long as it isn't a big deal.

They were all under valued in 1980

 

[69hemibeep]

I drive one

 

[icetech]

I drive one

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I like that one

 

[68BabyBlue]

I drove the four door version until I saved the money to buy my first GTX for $1500 in 1977. Wouldn't mind having a modified two door today, but the last one I saw that I liked, the seller wanted more than I paid for a Hemi GTX the same year.

 

[chargervert]

A bodies used to be affordable!

 

[Manfred]

Just from a transportation point of view, 4 door A and B bodies are still a bargain. You can collect a dry Western 318 or 6 cylinder car and it will deliver lots of good miles. Parts are to be had . Considering the disaster of trying to keep 2015 and newer cars going I think there may be a spark of interest in them. I see more of them for sale compared to GM or Ford offerings, and at a better price.

 

[Triplegreen500]

Aspen/volare cars are great. I had a '78 volare sedan, /6 auto with factory air, that I never should have sold. That thing rocked. Smooth, comfy, roomy, good fuel economy, and 34 degrees out the vents at idle in 95 degree weather.

And I still say my fwd mopars are unloved. Say what you will but a 2.2 or 2.5 turbo has tons of potential and tons of grins. I've had lot run in the low teens/11s/10s, live a long time, and be totally streetable. The powerband is different with a small displacement engine and boost...but ETs don't lie. Carroll saw the potential and jumped on it, and he only scratched the surface. I've run 35psi through a stock bottom end for tens of thousands of miles, and not had anything fail. But everybody hates them because they're different.

My factory turbo minivan

And my one owner Daytona turbo

 

[mpgmike]

Aspen/volare cars are great. I had a '78 volare sedan, /6 auto with factory air, that I never should have sold. That thing rocked. Smooth, comfy, roomy, good fuel economy, and 34 degrees out the vents at idle in 95 degree weather.

And I still say my fwd mopars are unloved. Say what you will but a 2.2 or 2.5 turbo has tons of potential and tons of grins. I've had lot run in the low teens/11s/10s, live a long time, and be totally streetable. The powerband is different with a small displacement engine and boost...but ETs don't lie. Carroll saw the potential and jumped on it, and he only scratched the surface. I've run 35psi through a stock bottom end for tens of thousands of miles, and not had anything fail. But everybody hates them because they're different.

My factory turbo minivan
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And my one owner Daytona turbo
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I hit the "Like" button, but it was so inadequate! I fell absolutely in love with the then cheap FWD '80s turbo cars after a family tradgedy in the early 2000's when I had to part with our '65 Imperial Crown sedan (22k original miles), '70 Gold Duster, '71 Demon, and my beloved '73 BB 4-speed Road Runner. These FWD Turbo cars were affordable and sort of saved my soul/passion/desire to live. I still own 3, but owned so many more over the last 2 decades. Lost love to be sure.

 

[Coelacanth]

Just from a transportation point of view, 4 door A and B bodies are still a bargain. You can collect a dry Western 318 or 6 cylinder car and it will deliver lots of good miles. Parts are to be had . Considering the disaster of trying to keep 2015 and newer cars going I think there may be a spark of interest in them. I see more of them for sale compared to GM or Ford offerings, and at a better price.

I would change that to "2005 and newer cars". I'm looking to add a second daily driver. My '05 Magnum is my current DD. My 14-year-old daughter will be learning to drive next spring but that Hemi and that big beast is too much car to learn in. I would really hope to find something pre-80's if possible. A simple 318-powered A-body would be great but they're getting hard to find in decent shape. A Volare or Aspen would be perfect.