Anyone else excited about DIESEL 1500's?!?!

[440ronnie67]

Hi guys,
I own a diesel shop called Top Frog, we primarily work on fords (not by choice) because the power stroke engines break down all the time. Over the last few years we have only worked on a hand full of dodge cummins. We are starting to build a dragster powered by a 2006 24v 5.9 cummins and very excited to see the outcome.

 

[64BEL]

Yeah, I don't want to bash, but I know a few guys with Powerstrokes. They always seem to be having problems - and big, expensive problems, in many cases. I'm always thinking to myself how glad I am that I have my Cummins. It's been nothing but good and reliable for all 13 years since new. I especially like how it fires right up with the turn of the key. The Powerstrokes seem to crank for quite awhile before firing. I know one guy who has to have his PS plugged in for anything below 30 degrees to be able to start it. I can get my Cummins started without plugging it in way under 0 degrees. It might be really loud and a little unhappy at first, but it always starts!

 

[Budnicks]

Yeah, I don't want to bash, but I know a few guys with Powerstrokes. They always seem to be having problems - and big, expensive problems, in many cases. I'm always thinking to myself how glad I am that I have my Cummins. It's been nothing but good and reliable for all 13 years since new. I especially like how it fires right up with the turn of the key. The Powerstrokes seem to crank for quite awhile before firing. I know one guy who has to have his PS plugged in for anything below 30 degrees to be able to start it. I can get my Cummins started without plugging it in way under 0 degrees. It might be really loud and a little unhappy at first, but it always starts!

I can attest to that 64Bel... Pops had to spend $8k in about 18 months to fix crap that failed on my, very well maintained & pampered 2002 F350 club cab 4x4 Powerstroke 7.3ltr. dually, I told him it was going to be sold, if he didn't want to pay for it, he drives it more than I do, he pulls the 5th wheel 28' RV & he loves that costly POS, it only has just less than 100k miles... But my old 95 & 98 Ram 4x4's 2500 & 3500 5.9ltr. Turbo Cummins 12 valve, went nearly 300k on both, before I did any work on the engines, other than performance, pump timing, high flow injectors, inner-cooler & turbo mods, that I did early on....

 

[Cranky]

My truck is a 97 and except for the seats, I like it a lot. My mileage has been as good as 25 on the highway and 19 in town and tows well. Will this new truck need to use the DEF crap? The pollution controls on the new diesels seems to kill off the mileage.....

 

['67Satellite]

Yup it's going to need a little cow urine (DEF) to get it down the road. I dont like the idea either, I think all the emissions controls are only a way to get into our pockets, and not to save any trees. I still think a 2003 HO Cummins is the best they've made. But there's a lot of Pro's with this new motor. Maybe i'll pick up a used one a few years down the road.

 

[nothingbutdarts]

Actually the DEF fluid makes it possible for the engine manufacturers to decrease the amount of EGR fed into the engines (EGR reduces NOx) and when there is less EGR and more clean fresh air in the intake there is more horsepower and mileage!!! The new DEF is a catalist heated and burned and is reducing the NOx in it's own catalytic converter.

 

[Budnicks]

DEF {Diesel Exhaust Fluid} it's basically more money spent, at or on about on every oil change, give or take a 1000 miles or so, but "supposedly with much cleaner exhaust, less stench/smell & supposedly with out all the Nasty typical Diesel soot & NOx is also reduced", basically you will need to add DEF every 5000-7500 miles depending your specific vehicles DEF tank size {most are about 5 gal. in light duty pick-ups}, if the system runs dry or gets contaminated, your vehicle will go into a limp mode or limited speed, until it is rectified/fixed or filled, also it depends on your fuel consumption/mileage & usages, they go hand & hand, more fuel used, more DEF used...

Expect trucking & shipping cost to increase continually also, to help offset the increasing expense to own & operate & maintain a Diesel...

 

[scotts74birds]

I guess we need a diesel section in the forum! But really, any thoughts on the 1500 with the 3.0 V-6? The trans is designed by ZF, but not sure yet if it will be made by them, or in-house at Chrysler.

 

[Budnicks]

I guess we need a diesel section in the forum! But really, any thoughts on the 1500 with the 3.0 V-6? The trans is designed by ZF, but not sure yet if it will be made by them, or in-house at Chrysler.

Joey runs, www.ForTrucksOnly.com too

 

[Charger686970]

To me if it is not a Cummins it is not worth a damn. not the 6.7 with all the emission crap either. Get a good 5.9 without emission garbage on it.

 

['67Satellite]

To me if it is not a Cummins it is not worth a damn. not the 6.7 with all the emission crap either. Get a good 5.9 without emission garbage on it.

I agree to a certain extent. But like everything, someday theyll be obsolete.

 

[Cranky]

Yeah, the 12V pre 98.5 engines will become old just like our 40 year old cars but it'll be awhile before they are obsolete imo.

 

[scotts74birds]

Just some info on this motor. Seems there has already been some serious R&D applied to it that could make this a potential pleaser. http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1208dp_banks_vm_motori_630t_v6_diesel_engine/

 

[super-bee_ski]

I got excited thinking it was going to be a cummins... If they made a cummins 2wd 1500 I would use my college money for a down payment! Crank up the boost, nice lsd, time to get freaky.

LOL!
"screw college, I got my Diesel"

I KNOW that is NOT waht you meant but it sounds funny....

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Yup it's going to need a little cow urine (DEF) to get it down the road. I dont like the idea either, I think all the emissions controls are only a way to get into our pockets, and not to save any trees. I still think a 2003 HO Cummins is the best they've made. But there's a lot of Pro's with this new motor. Maybe i'll pick up a used one a few years down the road.

The 2012 is without the DEF (UREA)

The 2013 is mandatory UREA injection....

In May 2013 Dodge was offering $7,000 OFF sticker price on the 2012 Cummins...LongHorn package.
And the Local Dodge dealer 48 miles away...LOL...Had a few left overs...2 were as my wife called them: "Long-tails" (Long-Beds)
I almost picked one up...the WIFE said no...

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[64BEL]

I love my long tail!:headbang: