Boy have I got a story to tell...

[icetech]

Yeah it’s a lot cheaper to screw it up yourself too. Cut out the middle man.

The main caps backwards blows my mind.. unless on gen3s that's how it is... i'm a complete hack and wouldn't even do that

 

[dvw]

A good machinist and self assembly is the way to go.
It's going to be great.
Doug

 

[Fran Blacker]

Jesus H Christmas what else can happen? Guess as the saying goes if you want it done right do it yourself. The main caps possibly being aligned backwards, Oh man.

 

[fullmetaljacket]

Jesus H Christmas what else can happen? Guess the as the saying goes if you want it done right do it yourself. The main caps possibly being aligned backwards, Oh man.

Sorry to hear about all those debacles. I remember us discussing it in Carlisle a year or so ago. Who's to blame? you can't even know where to start and at this point, not even worth it other than changing prep chefs in the kitchen and you being the main chef.
Like DVW says, it will be amazing this time around. A valuable lesson indeed.

 

[padam]

That is quite a story.

It’ll be nice to see what it does once it’s put together properly.

It’s really a shame that you put your trust in people and it had you beating your head against the wall for 2 years.

 

[dvw]

A few years ago I chased an issue on a S/S gen 3 Hemi. It would only run on the 1st 4 cylinders if the firing order. Swapped box, harness. No help. Got a scope pattern of the cam trigger/sensor. Ran a scope on it. Looked perfect and in time. Talked to a dyno guy at FCA where I worked. He said to check the cam basket for being magnetized. Sure enough, that was it. We've tigged the baskets to the gear as they have come loose. Did that magnetize it? Don't know.
Doug

 

[bobtile]

A few years ago I chased an issue on a S/S gen 3 Hemi. It would only run on the 1st 4 cylinders if the firing order. Swapped box, harness. No help. Got a scope pattern of the cam trigger/sensor. Ran a scope on it. Looked perfect and in time. Talked to a dyno guy at FCA where I worked. He said to check the cam basket for being magnetized. Sure enough, that was it. We've tigged the baskets to the gear as they have come loose. Did that magnetize it? Don't know.
Doug

I looked for and changed whatever I could trying to fix this.
If I found nothing when I opened the timing cover I was about to investigate the possibility of the car being magnetized.
Evidently that's a thing and that's how far into my research I went...

 

[Budnicks]

So sorry you had to deal with all of that
makes it tough, glad you found it...

 

[kiwigtx]

Near enough two years of racing down the toilet...hopefully this is your season Bob. I hope it goes well for you.

 

[PRHeads]

I have zero G3 experience so this may be a dumb question……..

I would assume in this application the variable cam timing isn’t utilized.
If that’s the case, is there no timing set that just eliminates all that stuff?

 

[bobtile]

I have zero G3 experience so this may be a dumb question……..

I would assume in this application the variable cam timing isn’t utilized.
If that’s the case, is there no timing set that just eliminates all that stuff?

Yes the phaser gets locked out. Zero advance or retardation. All timing is set by laptop.

 

[fullmetaljacket]

Good machinists with good machines and experience to match are extremely hard to find these days, especially here in New York. That's why I went to Detroit to get some honest to goodness work done including good old fashion assistance from local car lovers.
I'm sure there are good reputable shops in outer New Jersey that will DO THE RIGHT THING.

Good luck Bobtile. Y'all have interesting stories to tell between rounds of low 9's.

 

[bobtile]

Good machinists with good machines and experience to match are extremely hard to find these days, especially here in New York. That's why I went to Detroit to get some honest to goodness work done including good old fashion assistance from local car lovers.
I'm sure there are good reputable shops in outer New Jersey that will DO THE RIGHT THING.

Good luck Bobtile. Y'all have interesting stories to tell between rounds of low 9's.

I feel pretty confident now seeing about 6 or 7 gen 3 blocks when I dropped mine off this morning.

 

[dvw]

I'm sure it will be very good. For those you who do not know who Alan is.
Doug

https://www.nhra.com/news/2023/what-drives-pro-stock-s-lone-mopar-man-alan-prusiensky

 

[WS23U1]

Good machinists with good machines and experience to match are extremely hard to find these days, especially here in New York. That's why I went to Detroit to get some honest to goodness work done including good old fashion assistance from local car lovers.
I'm sure there are good reputable shops in outer New Jersey that will DO THE RIGHT THING.

Good luck Bobtile. Y'all have interesting stories to tell between rounds of low 9's.

Where did you go to in Detroit?

 

[WS23U1]

Also glad you found the problem. I have 0 experience with the gen3 stuff also.

 

[fullmetaljacket]

Where did you go to in Detroit?

Unfortunately, they have since closed their doors. BEST MACHINE in Farmington.

 

[fullmetaljacket]

Also keep in mind that machinists are just getting acquainted with Gen 3 powerplants and all the tricks and whistles have yet to be explored and not ignored. These engines are now plentiful and can harness a ssss load of power. The machinists and assemblers just have to catch up with the technology and awareness of what parts are available and worth working with.
Your car is going to fly like an eagle.

 

[WS23U1]

Unfortunately, they have since closed their doors. BEST MACHINE in Farmington.

Thanks. I know they closed up that's why I thought there might be someone else out here. I know there's lots of good shops out there but if they give your stuff to a new kid and it turns out like crap then it's the customs problem, mine yours. And I seem to be the guy a lot. Wish I could find someone just to let me use their eq. for a day. lol.

 

[MarPar]

Also keep in mind that machinists are just getting acquainted with Gen 3 powerplants and all the tricks and whistles have yet to be explored and not ignored. These engines are now plentiful and can harness a ssss load of power. The machinists and assemblers just have to catch up with the technology and awareness of what parts are available and worth working with.
Your car is going to fly like an eagle.