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Car Buying Advice

Speedy Canuck

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Car Buying Advice?

I did a quick search, but couldn't find a dedicated thread, so I thought I'd start one. I'm in the market for my first Mopar, and I know some of the basics, but I was just wondering what kind of buying advice some of you experts had to pass along. We could even go back to the basics for the benefit of others, such as the location of VIN's, rust problem spots, etc. So if you have any advice related to car hunting, purchasing, negotiating, transporting and the like, please impart your wisdom!

Speedy
 
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I sniped this picture from a post by RGAZ, because I thought it's mighty handy in identifying rear axles, so thanks RGAZ!
 
What you want to look at will be determined (to an extent anyway) by what car you're looking at, A, B, C, E, F body. But look for rust in the corners of the rear window, lower quarters, trunk floor, bottoms of the front fenders, and cowl. Look for the VIN on the dash, door sticker (on 70 and up cars) fender tag, radiator core support, cowl (on E bodies) and trunk drip rail.

Best thing to do is take someone who really knows the cars with you, and have them show you what they are looking for.
 
69 Runner, thanks for the advice. Based on this site, I'd be focused on B bodies... :tongueflap: If bringing along an expert isn't a possibility, do you, or anyone else have any advice?
I'm surprised there's not plenty of others scrambling to make suggestions or relate previous purchasing failures or potholes.
 
I would not buy a true Mopar Muscle car without a fender tag and or a buildsheet.
 
I occasionally work as a hired gun, but I think Ontario is a bit far
 
Speedy,

What's kind of money are you looking to spend? Are you set on a performance car, or are you open to something else that you could make into a performance car (for a lot less money in many cases)?

Dave
 
Speedy,

What's kind of money are you looking to spend? Are you set on a performance car, or are you open to something else that you could make into a performance car (for a lot less money in many cases)?

Dave

Well, being a student, I only have around 6-7 grand to spend. As for the type of car I'm looking for... I'm just casting my line and seeing what's out there. I love, and will one day own, a 70 Plymouth B body, but right now, I don't think I have the cash to build it the way my mind envisions it. I found a 66 Belvedere for sale online the other day that I'm interested in, but who knows.
I really just started this thread to learn from the experience of others on whatever aspect of finding and buying a car that people cared to talk about.

Speedy
 
A little over a year ago, I decided to look for an old Mopar to get back in the hobby after selling my '70 GTX in the mid '80s. I wanted something that was driveable or easily made driveable without a ton of work or money. I didn't want a long term project that I wouldn't be able to drive for years, because my daughter was 17 and a junior in HS at the time, and I wanted her to be able to drive it before she goes off to college (that'll be this fall). I had a few bucks available - about $9K. With the criteria I had set for the car, that pretty much eliminated most factory performance Mopars. But I started by looking at Craig's List ads in WI, MN, IL, MI, MO to get a feel for what was out there and what cars were going for. After we decided to go to Florida for our daughter's spring break in March, I expanded my search to the southern states.

I was pleasantly surprised that there were running cars available for just a few thousand dollars. A began to narrow the search toward '63-'65 B bodies (while still looking at others). I always liked those cars. We ended up with about a dozen good possibilities in the southern states when we took off for Florida. High on the list was a '65 Satellite in the Cinncinati area. I even reserved a U-Haul trailer down there in case we bought it. I liked the car - it was a 361, 4-speed needing some fairly minor body work from a fender bender type accident. It was a running, driving car. I could have gotten it for about $9K - seemed like an ok deal. But I ended up running away from it after I crawled underneath and saw that the front frame rails had undercoating applied over rust. One side was patched up and looked good, but the magnet doesn't lie - fiberglass! The other side crumbled when I pushed on it.

Sorry for the long post - to make it shorter, we ended up buying our Belvedere in Florida for $3500 - running and "driving". We hauled it home on a trialer and began work on it. Soon after, we realized the transmission wasn't really a driver. We spent most of the summer rebuilding all of the brakes and trying to get the transmission working properly. After we eliminated all simple solutions, we finally had the transmission rebuilt. The clutches and bands were all coming apart and kept clogging the filter. It got to where it would only drive about 5 miles before it stopped moving. LOL But now it's a driver - and the 318 Poly is a great runner. We still plan to put a big block in it some day - and it needs a repaint. But for the most part, it's a nice clean Florida car - no rust underneath at all (although the front floor pans have been crudely patched). Nice solid frame, etc... We're having a blast working on it and driving it - and our daughter is into it too. I was glad we were able to get it before she goes off to college and is out of the house. We have about $7-8K into including the purchase price, trailer rental, transmission rebuild, brakes, new rims and 4 new tires. So far so good, in my book.

More than anyone wanted to know - right? LOL Good luck in your search!

Dave
 
Measure for a straight frame.
Take a tape from rear wheel to front wheel. Both side. If they do NOT measure the same.
Run Away.
 
ask whoever you are buying the car from if it has a clear title or if they even have a title.don't let them tell you to buy the car and that they'll bring or mail the title to you later.
 
First, you need a plan. Figure out what you want specifically, what your initial spending budget(top dollar) will be to make a purchase and get it to your driveway and what you have in reserve to make repairs. Figure in what you can spend for someone else to make repairs that you can't handle. Do you have a place to store and work on it, do you have basic tools and do you have the time? These all come into play and you will find many unfinished projects out there for sale because there was no plan. Do you want a BB 4speed performance car or a SB auto with air? Narrow your search based on what you want. Just remember, no matter what you buy, it will always need something. Always expect the unexpected and be prepared to open your wallet. Once you have a plan, then you use the other info posted on what to look for. Never, I say NEVER, buy a car based solely on sellers description or pictures(they could be 10 years old). See it in person, look at it, touch it, sit in it, crawl under it, start and drive it if possible. Phrases like "it ran fine when parked" doesn't mean it will after sitting 20 years. Or "it yard drives" usually means trans doesn't shift and it has no brakes. Did I say NEVER buy a car unseen?
 
Hi Speedy,where in Ont. are you? I'm no expert but know B bodies pretty good, I have a 1970.Give me a P.M. I'll help if I can.
 
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