Correct installation of green axle bearings.

[5.7 hemi]

There’s actually 2 gaskets to use, one is fiber (goes against the axle flange) then backing plate, foam gasket then insert the axle and tighten down the 5 nuts.

It’ll be fine. Just do as I described and move on to another part of your build.

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

Faciously speaking.....its not too late to re-install the origional Timken Tapered axle bearings with the factory end play adjusters. All of your fitmet issues will go away, just follow the FSM procedures for installation and adjustment and you'll go down the road for miles and miles with out any reservations. Just return the Green bearings to the place of purchase for credit. Others will likely have a different opinion. Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON

Long story. Took my rear to a guy with a strong reputation of building rear ends, for race cars, etc.
He was well into his 60's. When I took it to him I had a moment of hesitation of "Maybe this guy is too old (His health looked less than ideal).
I left it anyway. He got the 3rd member complete. When he was extracting the seals from the axle tube he got dizzy, maybe fell on the floor. I'm not sure. 911 was called. I talked to him at the hospital and he mentioned he had purchased green bearings and swore by them. Anyway, 2-3 weeks later he passed away. Turned into a moral dilemma as my stuff was in his shop and he had passed away. I ended up getting 99% of my stuff back when his wife let me into his shop. Basically I paid for the bearings but I have no idea where he got them. He did mention a sealed bearing as we talked about what he was going to do but my lack of mechanical background got me. I didn't know it was a "ball" bearing.
I'll stop here. Story still longer than I am divulging. Now burn out on project. Car now reminds me of the man's death.

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

That green bearing with the nicely painted rear isn’t in the axle flange all the way. The bearing will stop on the backing plate at the snap ring.

That's powder coat. The guys that did the sand blasting also powder coated. I thought what the heck let's try it. Ill never do that again. Should have used Epoxy primer and 2K paint. It looks pretty for a day. Not as durable as I thought it would be.

 

[Ron H]

That's powder coat. The guys that did the sand blasting also powder coated. I thought what the heck let's try it. Ill never do that again. Should have used Epoxy primer and 2K paint. It looks pretty for a day. Not as durable as I thought it would be.

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Hmm - I powder coated my housing using a kit when I swapped out my OEM '63 to a '65 Coronet. The coating is rock hard no chips, etc. after 15 + years. Only hassle is keeping it clean when I get enough gumption to clean it.

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

Hmm - I powder coated my housing using a kit when I swapped out my OEM '63 to a '65 Coronet. The coating is rock hard no chips, etc. after 15 + years. Only hassle is keeping it clean when I get enough gumption to clean it.

I guess it's all in the handling. I've made some errors. Was cutting off some plastic I had used to cover it when cleaning out any possible media residue. I barely hit the surface with a razor and marked the piss out of it.

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

Last post for the evening. Everyone agree with the picture. Obviously nothing is pressed on. Only thing missing in the picture is the gasket between the axle tube and the brake plate. Originally it was a beaded metal (I'm sure it was metal, I think?) gasket of the same shape as the heavy gasket between the 5 hole retainer plate and brake plate. Was someone saying that was supposed to be foam??.

 

[5.7 hemi]

Metal gasket between backing plate/axle housing, foam on axle plate. I screwed that up, my apologies.

 

[Jeff Peterson]

One issue that happens with the green bearings is the axles will contact the thrust block in the center diff. remove the thrust block

^ This

 

[5.7 hemi]

Yep, or take your cut off wheel and lose some axle length.

 

[khryslerkid]

Steel gasket goes behind the backing plate.
Fiber gasket goes on the outside of backing plate.
Snap ring stops against the backing plate/gasket.

 

[khryslerkid]

One issue that happens with the green bearings is the axles will contact the thrust block in the center diff. Either remove the thrust block or grind a small amount off the axle shaft so the axles can be installed all the way. Otherwise the axle bearings could be side-loaded and they will wear out quickly.

You remove the thrust buttons on a Sure Grip with clutches. You can look in the axle tube to see if they are still there unless the center section is still out. The man that did your work knew you were using Green bearings, he probably already removed them. These are what the end of the axles butt up against.

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

Steel gasket goes behind the backing plate.
Fiber gasket goes on the outside of backing plate.
Snap ring stops against the backing plate/gasket.

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Excellent!!!!!!!!!

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

You remove the thrust buttons on a Sure Grip with clutches. You can look in the axle tube to see if they are still there unless the center section is still out. The man that did your work knew you were using Green bearings, he probably already removed them. These are what the end of the axles butt up against.
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A Sure grip posi unit has been installed. I've got the unit sitting on a bucket having just been painted. I believe its completely open. Other words nothing in the center.

 

[khryslerkid]

Faciously speaking.....its not too late to re-install the origional Timken Tapered axle bearings with the factory end play adjusters. All of your fitmet issues will go away, just follow the FSM procedures for installation and adjustment and you'll go down the road for miles and miles with out any reservations. Just return the Green bearings to the place of purchase for credit. Others will likely have a different opinion. Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON

Do you have stock in Timken Roller bearings or something? Let it go Bob.

 

[5.7 hemi]

He we go again!

 

[69GTXhrdnox]

He we go again!

My fault. I started this. Good night!!

 

[khryslerkid]

My fault. I started this. Good night!!

No it's not Keep us posted on your progress. You have a good night too!

 

[mopar 3 B]

At least us roller bearing guys will know if it was done right if the occasion ever comes to have to take one apart.

 

[RJRENTON]

Do you have stock in Timken Roller bearings or something? Let it go Bob.

As a matter of fact I do....Timken, stock ticker symbol TKR, has been in business for 120 years, pays a decent dividend and is selling for $ 76.00/share and paying 2% quarterly. Timken also produces specialized steels for other applications other than bearing production. Their product is superior to the Green style bearing, presently made by Bearing Technologies and marketed by several suppliers, including Mosur Engineering. I've asked several times as to the numbers on the Green bearing sassembly (not the MO400 number) to be able to check the bearings published design criteria capabilities....I guess I'll have to break down and buy one to see.
Its fun to poke the hornets nest occasionly, to see the proponents acclaim/proclaim the bearing's benefits. And I'll keep providing a rebuttal as to why I won't use them on my car, maybe as vehemently as those that do....
But...it all comes down to the car's owner....to each his own....
BOB RENTON

 

[5.7 hemi]

Ok.