Covid Vaccine. Please Do Not make this political.

[67440chrg]

Will you receive the vaccine. My wife and I both work in hospitals. She is getting hers tomorrow I will get mine when I am able. I understand if you can avoid the public you may not want to.

 

[YY1]

My wife is a nurse although not frontline.

I'm IT.

We both touch a LOT of other people's "hard plastic surfaces".

Not sure if they will try to get us second tier or what.

I'd like some kind of "see what happens" period.

 

[wvmarv]

Will you receive the vaccine. My wife and I both work in hospitals. She is getting hers tomorrow I will get mine when I am able. I understand if you can avoid the public you may not want to.

My daughter is a nurse and she will be getting hers soon.

 

[VANDAN]

I've never taken flu vaccines, and won't take this one either. I'm a believer in Herd Immunity, and taking care of your own personal health...

 

[vintage chromoly]

I never get the flu vaccine.
That said. Like it or not, most of us will be made to get the Covid vaccine.

I work in commercial industrial construction. I work in all the big hospital systems in the Cleveland area.

I am sure that we will have to get the “voluntary” vaccine if we want to work for any general contractor or in most any facility.

Our children will be mandated to get it before attending school or college, and anyone who wants to fly on a commercial airline will be made to get vaccinated.

the government will not need to mandate vaccinations, as private industry will do the mandating.

I have no problem being vaccinated.

 

[R413]

Why can’t we as a nation talk about nutrition and improving health? Instead of the next medicine that will save us all?

And did you read about what it does? It keeps you from getting sick, that’s good. But you can still pass the virus. Is that a bigger problem than we have now? Seems like it.

vaccine? Not only No But HECK NO. Billl gates and congress can go first.

 

[Brandy]

Not if I can help it.

 

[YY1]

I always get the flu shot.

My doctor advised me on that due to diabetes.

It has helped.

For most of my life, every time I got a cold, I'd also get either the flu or pneumonia and be in bed for 7-10 days barely clinging to life.

Now I can get a 3 day or even 24-48 hour common cold with nothing else attached.

 

[R413]

I had high cholesterol. So I decided to change my diet instead of take drugs. Added citrus, cut out all the saturated fats from junk food, cut back by 3/4 on red Meat consumption(store bought) not Wild deer or elk.

My numbers went from 225 to 180 in 4 months. Now it’s 150 after adding more plant based foods. But I’m no vegetarian by any means. I enjoy a steak, roast, etc, but not 5 night a week. And not one pound at a sitting, moderation is the key.

In addition I would get 4-5 colds a year after this change I don’t get colds at all anymore.

Easy add for most eat more citrus if you can. Depending on your meds.

 

[alfaitalia]

Still not sure....there's no poll option for that!!

 

[Brandy]

Sickness bounces off of me. My wife is like a magnet for everything though.

 

[HawkRod]

And did you read about what it does? It keeps you from getting sick, that’s good. But you can still pass the virus. Is that a bigger problem than we have now? Seems like it.

There is unfortunately so much misinformation about vaccines in general. I spent 20 years in pharmaceutical research, and worked on a few vaccines. Unfortunately they typically take a long time to develop and study, so we just don't know everything there is to know about the effectiveness and longevity of the Covid vaccines that are out right now.

In short, here is how a vaccine works:

• A small amount of genetic material is injected into your body. In the past (e.g. the early polio vaccine), it was actually a small amount of actual polio and you could get polio from it. Nowadays, the virus is attenuated or killed so that can't happen.
• Once the material is in your body, you react to it and your body learns how to fight this invader. Since the virus can't replicate, you can't get the disease from it. However, you can and often do feel a bad for a day or so and may even run a fever. This is good, actually, it means your body has geared up to learn to fight the invader.
• Now your body has learned to fight the virus - based on the vaccine. If you get exposed, your body already has the tools to fight the invader before it can take over too many cells and begin replicating. How strongly your body learns from the vaccine will determine if it:

1. Doesn't work at all and you get sick (This could mean the genetic material wasn't at all close to the virus' genetic material. This is what happens if you get a flu vaccine but still get the flu - it means scientists' guess on what virus would be flying around was wrong)
2. Partially works, and you still get infected and sick, but less sick
3. Works and your body kills off the invading virus.

• A virus needs to infect lots of your body's cells before it can begin replicating and shedding copies of itself (i.e. you become contagious). Although this is possible with the new vaccine, it is highly unlikely. If your body has learned to fight the virus well enough that you don't get sick, then you won't shed either because the virus wasn't able to take over many cells and replicate itself.
  In scenario 1 or 2 above, you could still infect people. Due to this, authorities will suggest that everyone still wear a mask and assume that they can be infectious.

Hope this helps folks.

Hawk

 

[lanceh13]

I've gotten the flu vaccine every year since I can remember. It all started back in my army days when I was a pin cushion for all kinds of new drugs. Even had to go thru the anthrax shots that I think were thrown out by the FDA.

I've never had the flu that I can remember...maybe it's because I get my vaccine or because I'm a tough army veteran..or both haha. ;)

Covid vaccine...I dunno...I'm o- which I hear is a good thing in terms of this virus. But I wouldn't not take it...guess I'll put myself in the wait and see category.

I just hope this whole thing allows us to get some normalcy back.

 

[Brandy]

There is unfortunately so much misinformation about vaccines in general. I spent 20 years in pharmaceutical research, and worked on a few vaccines. Unfortunately they typically take a long time to develop and study, so we just don't know everything there is to know about the effectiveness and longevity of the Covid vaccines that are out right now.

In short, here is how a vaccine works:

• A small amount of genetic material is injected into your body. In the past (e.g. the early polio vaccine), it was actually a small amount of actual polio and you could get polio from it. Nowadays, the virus is attenuated or killed so that can't happen.
• Once the material is in your body, you react to it and your body learns how to fight this invader. Since the virus can't replicate, you can't get the disease from it. However, you can and often do feel a bad for a day or so and may even run a fever. This is good, actually, it means your body has geared up to learn to fight the invader.
• Now your body has learned to fight the virus - based on the vaccine. If you get exposed, your body already has the tools to fight the invader before it can take over too many cells and begin replicating. How strongly your body learns from the vaccine will determine if it:

1. Doesn't work at all and you get sick (This could mean the genetic material wasn't at all close to the virus' genetic material. This is what happens if you get a flu vaccine but still get the flu - it means scientists' guess on what virus would be flying around was wrong)
2. Partially works, and you still get infected and sick, but less sick
3. Works and your body kills off the invading virus.

• A virus needs to infect lots of your body's cells before it can begin replicating and shedding copies of itself (i.e. you become contagious). Although this is possible with the new vaccine, it is highly unlikely. If your body has learned to fight the virus well enough that you don't get sick, then you won't shed either because the virus wasn't able to take over many cells and replicate itself.
  In scenario 1 or 2 above, you could still infect people. Due to this, authorities will suggest that everyone still wear a mask and assume that they can be infectious.

Hope this helps folks.

Hawk

Thanks pal. Good info in no nonsense form.

 

[Brandy]

I've gotten the flu vaccine every year since I can remember. It all started back in my army days when I was a pin cushion for all kinds of new drugs. Even had to go thru the anthrax shots that I think were thrown out by the FDA.

I've never had the flu that I can remember...maybe it's because I get my vaccine or because I'm a tough army veteran..or both haha. ;)

Covid vaccine...I dunno...I'm o- which I hear is a good thing in terms of this virus. But I wouldn't not take it...guess I'll put myself in the wait and see category.

I just hope this whole thing allows us to get some normalcy back.

Listening to KMAC at the press beating yesterday she said there are more than 600 Million doses on the way. Once we, America, go through 350 million of them the mask should go.

 

[WP29440SE]

not a chance in hell. nobody knows what long term effects could result. I'll take my chances

 

[alfaitalia]

There is unfortunately so much misinformation about vaccines in general. I spent 20 years in pharmaceutical research, and worked on a few vaccines. Unfortunately they typically take a long time to develop and study, so we just don't know everything there is to know about the effectiveness and longevity of the Covid vaccines that are out right now.

In short, here is how a vaccine works:

• A small amount of genetic material is injected into your body. In the past (e.g. the early polio vaccine), it was actually a small amount of actual polio and you could get polio from it. Nowadays, the virus is attenuated or killed so that can't happen.
• Once the material is in your body, you react to it and your body learns how to fight this invader. Since the virus can't replicate, you can't get the disease from it. However, you can and often do feel a bad for a day or so and may even run a fever. This is good, actually, it means your body has geared up to learn to fight the invader.
• Now your body has learned to fight the virus - based on the vaccine. If you get exposed, your body already has the tools to fight the invader before it can take over too many cells and begin replicating. How strongly your body learns from the vaccine will determine if it:

1. Doesn't work at all and you get sick (This could mean the genetic material wasn't at all close to the virus' genetic material. This is what happens if you get a flu vaccine but still get the flu - it means scientists' guess on what virus would be flying around was wrong)
2. Partially works, and you still get infected and sick, but less sick
3. Works and your body kills off the invading virus.

• A virus needs to infect lots of your body's cells before it can begin replicating and shedding copies of itself (i.e. you become contagious). Although this is possible with the new vaccine, it is highly unlikely. If your body has learned to fight the virus well enough that you don't get sick, then you won't shed either because the virus wasn't able to take over many cells and replicate itself.
  In scenario 1 or 2 above, you could still infect people. Due to this, authorities will suggest that everyone still wear a mask and assume that they can be infectious.

Hope this helps folks.

Hawk

Good info....but the mRNA vaccines being used against COVID works in a slightly different way to old style vaccines.....they are the future of medicine apparently!!

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle. Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the muscle cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.

Next, the cell displays the protein piece on its surface. Our immune systems recognize that the protein doesn’t belong there and begin building an immune response and making antibodies, like what happens in natural infection against COVID-19.

At the end of the process, our bodies have learned how to protect against future infection. The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain this protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19.

 

[Begood03]

I refuse to live in fear. If I get it, I get it.

 

[mopar 3 B]

I've gotten the flu vaccine every year since I can remember. It all started back in my army days when I was a pin cushion for all kinds of new drugs. Even had to go thru the anthrax shots that I think were thrown out by the FDA.

I've never had the flu that I can remember...maybe it's because I get my vaccine or because I'm a tough army veteran..or both haha. ;)

Covid vaccine...I dunno...I'm o- which I hear is a good thing in terms of this virus. But I wouldn't not take it...guess I'll put myself in the wait and see category.

I just hope this whole thing allows us to get some normalcy back.

Well glad you had no ill effects. My first and last military flue shot left us all sick for three day of stool duty. Good thing only half of us were scheduled at a time.

 

[Sahara]

Wife works in front line health, actually laying hands on the sick. All day, every day. She’s getting it. I work in all the government buildings including the hospital, I’ll get it.
This isn’t a political statement, it how it is: you don’t have to get the vaccine, none of us care whether you do or not, whether you live or die or not. Big brother, whoever that may be, really doesn’t care about you and your little life. Get over yourself. If you choose not to take precautions that’s fine. If you get sick with this stay home and get sick or die. Don’t go out or to a hospital and potentially kill innocent, smart, hardworking folks. If this is a hoax you’ll be fine.