DOGS

[Hey-O]

 

[davek]

It's about 10*s cooler now, supposed to be a few days of it 90*s not 100*s

Thanks for the responses guys...
It helps...

Elvis/he was a bit more active & running around with Konni
yesterday, neither of them would eat much, even treats or people food
too busy playing chasing balls & drinking lots of water
(Konni (12) is NOT good at giving the ball back, but Elvis (9) is a lil' younger & faster)

I'm going to the vet later this afternoon
we'll see what she says



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How did the vet go? Elvis OK?

 

[Scott Engelhardt]

I can do this all day. Catch the Frisbee 5 or 6 times then go lay in the pool, and come back for more.

 

[Budnicks]

More often the not one of our dogs would eat something it shouldn't have causing it 2 lose appetite. Several times a limp was caused by something they stepped on and took a few days to recover. Possibly a burnt paw if it's hot. Certainly if it's hurts too much..I wouldn't have an appetite either.

All the above been taken into account too
thanks

 

[Budnicks]

How did the vet go? Elvis OK?

Vet;
Took blood & urine samples & did ear swab, skin allergies test
his temp (up the ***) was 101*
it was 99* the last time he was in
both are well within the norms of 99*-102* for a large breed dog
she looked at his paws
he had a growth he licked & split open
that they removed that was ingrown hairs, between his toes
the last time he was in there,
everything they did looked normal

he was acting normal for a vet visit, had all the normal energy
he took a treat from the vet, I told them about me hand feeding him
& he won't eat his milk bones, dental treats or Pup-peroni's
he normally loves
or eating his dry food, even a different brand my sister feeds her dog
neither dog would eat it in my laundry room
she asked him a couple of commands, sit shake lay stay etc.
he did it like Johnny on the spot, tail wagging & alert
checked his teeth said;
they are looking really great for a 9 y/o dog

nothing obvious, it was making her & me baffled

they will do some further test,
on the blood & urine & allergies swab too
but when they initially looked at it under the microscope
all seems fine & normal no issues jumping out at them

he had some discharge out of his right ear
he has a bunch of it in that ear always
it's been managed since he was a pup, cleaning & occasional flush
been doing it regularly...

She had said;
"it could be lingering from heat exhaustion symptoms"
since he had it before

they didn't know why
he'd do the late at night limping/dragging the foot on one leg
next day he was fine
& a next day later it was the other leg, same exact symptoms
she was baffled, after she poked & prodded
then said;
nothing seem to bother him & his joints look great on the ex-rays

she looked in his eyes & ears, pretty much normal
nothing to make her worried

I will know more when they get the urine & blood test/s back
but, they gave him a good bill of health

I'll try a different dog food,
maybe he just doesn't like the old one
& try a different place to feed him too
not in my laundry room by the washer & dryer & garbage cans
maybe something is making him feel sketchy in there,
hasn't for 9+ years
or any of my other dogs either over the years
I'll try it...

I've been hand feeding him chicken bits I cooked up
I tried white rice & chicken too, in his bowl
he wouldn't touch it
he gobbles up, anything you put in his bowl normally

But;
If I hand feed him the chicken bits, he'll eat it

I know I know, it's a bad habit, should do it
& he eats food off our "human" food-plates after dad's breakfast,
my lunch (I don't do breakfast) & both our dinners
but not with the gusto he normally does
he usually cleans the plate
he leaves a bunch on them now
Also, it's not that much food
maybe a cup, a cup & a 1/2, maybe 2 cups max
between all 3 meals
nothing that's bad for him either
we've both owned dogs our whole lives

he pees & poos normal, he's not getting skinny yet
drinking plenty of water

acts relatively normal outside

I've told her (the vet) all of that too
they are baffled, he acted 110% normal in vets office
like nothing is wrong at all

thanks for the questions & showing concerns,
I'm baffled

dad & the dog sleeping

 

[Budnicks]

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What a cute pup

 

[Hey-O]

What a cute pup

That's kind of you. I should have introduced him. His name is Duece. He getting bigger by the day. She loves him to death and that just makes my day.

 

[Budnicks]

I can do this all day. Catch the Frisbee 5 or 6 times then go lay in the pool, and come back for more.

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Good boy Thor, good boy...

 

[davek]

If you change his food he might not eat it right away, Thor would not eat when I changed their food. Went back to the food I was feeding then forever .Thor is back eating. I would keep to the norm and see how he does. Sounds like the heat got to him.

 

[Budnicks]

If you change his food he might not eat it right away, Thor would not eat when I changed their food. Went back to the food I was feeding then forever .Thor is back eating. I would keep to the norm and see how he does. Sounds like the heat got to him.

Yeah I know
changes can give them digestive issues too
screwed if I do or if I don't
I try not to change stuff, keep the reg. routine going...
I'm at a point I don't know what & where to even try...

My cousin feeds his dog/a lil' couple years younger than Elvis
a 40# female yellow lab (Bodie)
with all kinds of issues, allergies & a rash & sensitive stomach
she was an extremely picky eater,
that was the only dry food she'd eat,
he tried like 15 different specialty food along the way too

Elvis eats it up out of her bowl every time he's up there
but, that was when he was eating well...
Called "Gental Giant" (IIRC)
dry dog food, it actually smells like real food too
he occasionally puts canned food over it or chicken & rice...
My dog gets enough human food to survive, but
I want him eating dog food
so he gets all his nutrients, good digestive heath etc.
he can't eat corn based stuff...

DAMN Fur children I love him, but worried a lil'...

 

[Curiousyellow71]

My youngest boy Lukas lives in Maine and flew in last night.. his plane was to depart O'Hare in Chicago a 9:00pm(just as the storm hit and in a Tornado warning while on the plane)..not fun.
Well Lukas asked if we could bring Penny w us to the airport, cause he misses the dog. The flight was delayed and arrived at Omaha at 3:30am. Penny was standing in backseat w the door open of the truck. Lukas gave his mom a hug w his back to the truck. When he turned around Penny recognized him and lost her mind..pretty dang cute. They had not seen each other in 8 months. Still a happy clam today.Lol

 

[ckessel]

Yeah I know
changes can give them digestive issues too
screwed if I do or if I don't
I try not to change stuff, keep the reg. routine going...
I'm at a point I don't know what & where to even try...

My cousin feeds his dog/a lil' couple years younger than Elvis
a 40# female yellow lab (Bodie)
with all kinds of issues, allergies & a rash & sensitive stomach
she was an extremely picky eater,
that was the only dry food she'd eat,
he tried like 15 different specialty food along the way too

Elvis eats it up out of her bowl every time he's up there
but, that was when he was eating well...
Called "Gental Giant" (IIRC)
dry dog food, it actually smells like real food too
he occasionally puts canned food over it or chicken & rice...
My dog gets enough human food to survive, but
I want him eating dog food
so he gets all his nutrients, good digestive heath etc.
he can't eat corn based stuff...

DAMN Fur children I love him, but worried a lil'...

If you were closer, I'd hook you up with some Darwins raw. Dogs and cats have been on that for almost 10 years. It's species specific grub. We found out about it after watching "Pet Fooled" which is a documentary on pet food. The two vets in the doc use Darwins for their brood. They never mention it but you can see the packages. Darwins is direct buy, frozen raw, several meat choices. Bloody mess when thawed. 1/2lb packs. The current pair get 1[ Toga] or 2[ Zeke] packs each in the evening with riced Cauliflower or steamed Broccoli. In the morning its a small amount of Fromms dry The prior pair of kids were Darwins only as their digestive system couldn't take dry or even the supposed high quality stuff. Stuff isn't cheap but they all do very well on it.

 

[Budnicks]

If you were closer, I'd hook you up with some Darwins raw. Dogs and cats have been on that for almost 10 years. It's species specific grub. We found out about it after watching "Pet Fooled" which is a documentary on pet food. The two vets in the doc use Darwins for their brood. They never mention it but you can see the packages. Darwins is direct buy, frozen raw, several meat choices. Bloody mess when thawed. 1/2lb packs. The current pair get 1[ Toga] or 2[ Zeke] packs each in the evening with riced Cauliflower or steamed Broccoli. In the morning its a small amount of Fromms dry The prior pair of kids were Darwins only as their digestive system couldn't take dry or even the supposed high quality stuff. Stuff isn't cheap but they all do very well on it.

I've seen all them videos too...

I'm about to the point I'll try anything

the local pet food store up here sells that Fromms (dry), they really push it too
I got it free when I was doing the Fostering stuff, the org. people paid for it
& my cousin tried it with his dog too, my dog ate it up there
again it was when he was eating normal
when Bubba (foster dog) was on it
Elvis was still eating puppy food, he was like a 1.5 y/o I didn't really let him eat much of it...
Bubba scarfed it up like crazy...

my neighbor uphill side Tom, gave me some boutique dog food 'Farmers Dog'
a clear package of refrigerated wet dog food, see commercial for it all the time
it looks like ground up people food 'sort of'
but;
there's lots of tan color in it, looks almost like his 'reconstituted' dry food,
not sure 100% of what all is in it, what kind of meats it is (nothing I know is tan)
(the ingredients were all normal whole foods, beef & chicken, veggies)
&
''he hardly touched it so far"
albeit wet, & it smells a bit better than any dry food I've smelled...

I'm still feeding him chicken
he's been doing better, with eating stuff out of a bowl now (in the kitchen)
so I don't have to always hand feed him,
I'm petting & praising him the whole time
still nothing/eating like he normally did, eating wise

Labs are normally 'chow hounds'

 

[davek]

My buddy bought 3 labs and has been having nothing but problems. I know there is a virus going around now ,my buddies 3 dogs got it. Get well Elvis.

 

[Budnicks]

My youngest boy Lukas lives in Maine and flew in last night.. his plane was to depart O'Hare in Chicago a 9:00pm(just as the storm hit and in a Tornado warning while on the plane)..not fun.
Well Lukas asked if we could bring Penny w us to the airport, cause he misses the dog. The flight was delayed and arrived at Omaha at 3:30am. Penny was standing in backseat w the door open of the truck. Lukas gave his mom a hug w his back to the truck. When he turned around Penny recognized him and lost her mind..pretty dang cute. They had not seen each other in 8 months. Still a happy clam today.Lol

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Happy Dog

 

[Budnicks]

My buddy bought 3 labs and has been having nothing but problems. I know there is a virus going around now ,my buddies 3 dogs got it. Get well Elvis.

Yeah something (some Canine flu 800 dogs have caught it) like that
was going around in SoCal too
I'm way north & east of SoCal, up in the Sierras near/N.E. of Yosemite area
Tuolumne Co. a couple ridges over
but;
it could be up here now too

he does have a couple of the symptoms
lethargic & lack of appetite,
no fever, no real nose or eyes discharge etc.
no coughing or sneezing, or puking or bad bowels stuff

I'll ask the vet when she calls about that too

 

[sam dupont]

We can't stand to see them not eat, but they know best. In the wild, there are times they don't eat so they can get better. We are the same way. I got some bad shrimp and couldn't eat it for years.

I would stick with the same food he has been eating because he is used to it and new food might cause gas issues which can affect appetite and things. If a slightly larger amount of chicken mixed in gets it done, that's probably okay. New food adds another variable to consider when diagnosing.

 

[ckessel]

Late 2000's I put our then brood on Solid Gold after trying to find a potential cure for our little seizure girl. The lady that owned the company, Sissie?, had raised and bred Great Danes for shows etc. For many years she had dealt with the usual commercial foods out there but had problems so she did her own. It was a local to us at the time company based in El Cajon Ca. The dogs immediately showed improvement on the stuff so we stayed with it for quite some time. They were one of the very few companies who didn't get hit with the Chinese ingredient contamination. Sometime down the road she sold the company, she was in her 80's at the time, to one of the conglomerates. I never did find out who it was. After the sale we could see our pair at the time walk up to their bowls, sniff and back away. This happened several times. Additionally we were using Merrick canned as it was a high grade wet. After awhile they backed away from that too. Neko at the time was having digestive issues so we were trying different things to help him plus just have both eat. My wife started making Chicken and Rice for them. Nothing added, just cooked bird and grain. They loved that but Neko was still having problems with butt explosions. It was so bad for him that he would scream and howl in pain. We took him to the vet we were using at the time and she didn't have any answers plus thought we didn't know what we were talking about. Numerous trips in with the same result from her. She did mention there were some tests that could be done but refused to do them cause she thought we were high. On another trip in for the same problem and ghosting, he gave her some fresh squeezed in the exam room plus the screaming. OMG was her reply. Dumb, lazy bitch. She finally did the tests and we discovered he had 3 different viral infections going on in the digestive tract. Thats when we found out about Darwins. Got them on that and his problems almost cleared up but could still have explosions. We later found out that some dogs are allergic to Chicken and Rice. Bingo! For him, it was like throwing gas in a fire. So no more of that stuff. We did have to watch the treat ingredients and the amounts of even safe stuff.

 

[davek]

Now were do I sit?

 

[Budnicks]

Elvis update
he's eating a lil' just people food hardly touches his treats
or any dog related foods
or the Farmers Dog stuff

I got the Vets test results back, clean liver, clean blood & good kidneys
his heart is good/strong, & no heartworms, his ex-rays are all good,
no blockages etc.
the swab of his ear is the same 'yeast crap' since he was a pup...
ongoing stuff

So I'm still in the same place...

He does have like a 'hot spot' on the top of his head, sort of a scrape
I thought it might be a tick, didn't look like it was
been using hydrogen peroxide, to clean & topical ointment cream on it...
I think he poked himself on the barb wire/hog wire back fence...
may take him back in have the vet look at it, I think it's nothing really...
I was 'Just thinking'
maybe something tick related, like lime disease (?),
I maybe be grabbing at staws
But we do have a crapload of deer around here,
I do see some deer/s with ticks all over them in the heat
& they (like 10 or so) sleep just on the other side of his back fence,
but he doesn't have any real symptoms of it...
I haven't found any ticks on him ever 'yet'...

He seems like he has more energy NOW,
just not eating dog food
he does eat some chicken & leftovers, cleans our plates/human food
breakfast, lunch & dinners

I asked the dr. about the dog virus going around, mentioned earlier
she said;
no indications of it, she knew about it too
& that nothing showed up in his blood, urine or ear swabs
to lead her in that direction...
She said if he did have it, they "usually" run their course in like 3 weeks
it's like 3 weeks today I think

He does like pasta, hot dogs, some potatoes/French fires & chicken,
he loves beef (as long as it's not fat), still will only eat a lil' bit
especially when I hand feed him
for some reason not rice so much now, he used to gobble it up
vegies rice & chicken that was a Sunday treat

he'd barely eats or lick our bowls of Ice-Cream/apple pie
the other night
he loves vanilla ice-cream, any ice-cream except chocolate I won't do that
he loves apples too, he won't/wouldn't even eat the apples I diced up
it's really strange

I'll keep trying different foods, he ain't starving, thank goodness
he's just not eating like he should...

Anyway, thanks for the help & suggestion guys