Edelbrock vicktor mw port heads

[James Memmel]

I'm thinking about running the max wedge Victor heads on my new motor and I just like some opinions on guys that have them and how well they work.

 

[IQ52]

Unfortunately Edelbrock is way behind on max wedge head design. The Victor heads do not set up easily for large lifts and to use a 2" installed height spring takes some devilish retainer and lock work. The ports need some major work to get to good flows. There are better designed heads out there to start with.

Can you force them to work? Yes. I have used them to get over 900 HP on a normally aspirated 500" wedge.

 

[dvw]

I'm thinking about running the max wedge Victor heads on my new motor and I just like some opinions on guys that have them and how well they work.

Why do you want to use Victors instead of Trick Flow or Indy? What is the intended usage and goals?
Doug

 

[James Memmel]

Why do you want to use Victors instead of Trick Flow or Indy? What is the intended usage and goals?
Doug

420 cfm + 355 cc intake I'm in the process of putting a 496 with 13.5 comp 700 lift roller and 500 up NOS

 

[1967coronet440]

I Used victors on my 505, it’s still sitting on a stand in th garage but I can attest to what IQ52 said that they are a pain to set up. I had a wait on locks and retainers luckily I found a member here selling a set of T&D rockers that lives down the street from me. Expect to spend 1400 for a new set of t&d or you can go Harland sharp for around 1100.

 

[dvw]

420 cfm + 355 cc intake I'm in the process of putting a 496 with 13.5 comp 700 lift roller and 500 up NOS

I don't know where that 420 CFM came from. I'd put money that the best set of Victor's won't be as quick as a good set of ported -1's.
Doug

 

[James Memmel]

I don't know where that 420 CFM came from. I'd put money that the best set of Victor's won't be as quick as a good set of ported -1's.
Doug

Hughes engines claims 420 CFM at I think it was 800 lift

 

[dvw]

Who has a quick car with Victors to back up that claim? Any customer testimonials? I know my -1's are nowhere near 400 cfm. But they flow well enough to make north of 900 on motor. To be honest like everyone I'm no fan of Indy's customer service. But there are a lot of vendors making good power with them. Along with ET slips to back it up.
Doug

 

[1967coronet440]

@malex

 

[451Mopar]

Hughes engines claims 420 CFM at I think it was 800 lift

I have has two sets of them. Early version from Edelbrock, and newer version with the CNC porting from Hughes.
I think the Hughes heads flowed around 385 cfm on the flow bench my cylinder head guy uses?
As mentioned, they are a pain to setup if you want to run high lifts.
I have the old T&D 1.6 rocker arm setup. I think T&D and Jesel have paired shaft rocker setup that replaces the cast in stands?
I broke the center rocker shaft stand on both of the early heads. The later heads have longer heli-coils in them, but we decided to mill the stands off on those heads also, and use the max wedge "block" type rocker stands with longer ARP studs, and Time-sert inserts in place of the heli-coils. Just running 0.726" lift with about 700# open pressure.

 

[malex]

@malex

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Funny that you threw me into this Coronet 440! Lol.

Yes I have Victor Max Wedge heads on my little 505. They seem to be working quite well. Mildly ported and flowing 348 intake and 277 exhaust I think it is.
And I'm using the hughes offset rockers.

I chose these Victors coming on 4 years back. Hughes was talking huge huge numbers and Indy seemed to be pissing lots of people off at the time. I don't recall 270's being out at that time.

If I was buying again, it would likely be Indy's. More and more, guys are posting nice numbers on the 270s but man, all the FAST guys are running Indy.

My car is good to go 10.0. With only a half dozen race days on both me and the car, I have no doubt that my MW heads won't put me right there though.

I see that Hughes offers a fix for broken rocket shaft bosses on Eddies, oh great.

 

[malex]

I have has two sets of them. Early version from Edelbrock, and newer version with the CNC porting from Hughes.
I think the Hughes heads flowed around 385 cfm on the flow bench my cylinder head guy uses?
As mentioned, they are a pain to setup if you want to run high lifts.
I have the old T&D 1.6 rocker arm setup. I think T&D and Jesel have paired shaft rocker setup that replaces the cast in stands?
I broke the center rocker shaft stand on both of the early heads. The later heads have longer heli-coils in them, but we decided to mill the stands off on those heads also, and use the max wedge "block" type rocker stands with longer ARP studs, and Time-sert inserts in place of the heli-coils. Just running 0.726" lift with about 700# open pressure.

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451 do you know by chance when Edelbrock started using the longer heli coils?

 

[not so famous bob]

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Funny that you threw me into this Coronet 440! Lol.

Yes I have Victor Max Wedge heads on my little 505. They seem to be working quite well. Mildly ported and flowing 348 intake and 277 exhaust I think it is.
And I'm using the hughes offset rockers.

I chose these Victors coming on 4 years back. Hughes was talking huge huge numbers and Indy seemed to be pissing lots of people off at the time. I don't recall 270's being out at that time.

If I was buying again, it would likely be Indy's. More and more, guys are posting nice numbers on the 270s but man, all the FAST guys are running Indy.

My car is good to go 10.0. With only a half dozen race days on both me and the car, I have no doubt that my MW heads won't put me right there though.

I see that Hughes offers a fix for broken rocket shaft bosses on Eddies, oh great.

Not a hi rpm engine, but my victor knock offs flow 352 @.600>doesn`t go up much beyond that / cnc`d "standard port" , hughs offset rockers, smaller street roller. tite lash comp cam, 620 lift , 254/260 duration.!

 

[dvw]

It's not that these heads won't work. But there are better options in my opinion. Has anybody seen a Victor headed engine make 900+? At 420 CFM that should be doable and still have light maintenance.
Doug

 

[James Memmel]

Since everybody doesn't like the Victor's what head do I run

 

[not so famous bob]

Since everybody doesn't like the Victor's what head do I run

IF, I was going to build anew engine, I`d look at the new trickflows real close !!

 

[James Memmel]

Well I sat down a minute and thought about it I'm going to go out and buy a set of B1. TS head or I'm going to put a Hemi in the car

 

[not so famous bob]

420 cfm + 355 cc intake I'm in the process of putting a 496 with 13.5 comp 700 lift roller and 500 up NOS

Stock block ??

 

[James Memmel]

Stock block ?? I'll be buying an aftermarket block either koleno or Mopar performance.

 

[malex]

Stock block ??

Not a hi rpm engine, but my victor knock offs flow 352 @.600>doesn`t go up much beyond that / cnc`d "standard port" , hughs offset rockers, smaller street roller. tite lash comp cam, 620 lift , 254/260 duration.!

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Those knock offs flow real well Bob. Any dyno numbers or time slips for them? What are they on? You may have mentioned before but I can't recall now.