Front end alignment

[Cranky]

If you don't like the rear being that high, install lowering blocks but man, 5" higher than stock is a LOT!

 

[PurpleBeeper]

What do you mean by replace the rear spring purchase? The front spring Mount is stocked so only has one bolt hole, are you talking aftermarket front mount?

Yes. The super stock springs for b-bodies are actually a-body length (front section) leaf spring with extended front leaf spring hangers (to reach the shorter springs) & those hangers have 2 sets of holes. One set of holes is the stock location. With super stock springs, the rear end goes WAY up. You can use the other set of holes in the extended front shackles, which does lower the car down in the back, but it changes your rear end pinion angle a lot.

 

[Tony 69]

If the ride height changes any amount, the camber may change slightly, but the toe will change a lot and is the highest tire wear angle. Yes. You need to do another alignment.

 

[Cranky]

I'm thinking about 3 in. The Superstar springs raced the back about 5 in. Way too much rake for a four-door

Never heard of the brand 'Superstar' springs.....unless you mean Super Stock springs. I don't like them one bit and will stack my own springs to make them work and keep the back end down instead of it looking like a stink bug. Are you drag racing the car??

 

[YY1]

Toe is the easiest alignment setting to change and can be measured and adjusted with common tools.

5" rise from factory ride height with good springs, or 5" rise from worn, sagging springs.

IIRC factory ride height has the upper wheel arch even with the inside edge of the outer wheel rim.

I personally think they look better with the upper arch even with where whitewall or white letters would be.

 

[RemCharger]

See if the rear shackles have flipped forward

 

[pnora]

Technically yes. Ride height is the first setting in an alignment. How much are you changing it?

I guess the new guy Todd has never aligned a front end.

 

[Kern Dog]

If you're going by the book and doing a stock vehicle, setting the ride height may be correct.
Who here has a stock car? Maybe half of the members at the most?
Every time I've had a vehicle aligned, they are told to leave the height alone. My truck has 2" drop springs. They play to the lay of the land there so why not with the cars?
I set the ride height to what I want. I'm not competing with the car at the Nationals. I don't care what the stock height is. I don't like any open space at the top of the tires on my cars.

Not so easy with the Dart since the front wheel opening is so high and the rear so low...

The Duster is even harder to get there:

 

[pnora]

If you're going by the book and doing a stock vehicle, setting the ride height may be correct.
Who here has a stock car? Maybe half of the members at the most?
Every time I've had a vehicle aligned, they are told to leave the height alone. My truck has 2" drop springs. They play to the lay of the land there so why not with the cars?
I set the ride height to what I want. I'm not competing with the car at the Nationals. I don't care what the stock height is. I don't like any open space at the top of the tires on my cars.

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Not so easy with the Dart since the front wheel opening is so high and the rear so low...

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The Duster is even harder to get there:

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Poster said should the alignment be redone with a ride height change. So to honestly answer the question the answer is yes. Fluff it any way you want.

 

[Kern Dog]

I'm not a fluffer, man....
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Despite what it sounds like, a fluffer isn’t someone who stuffs toy animals. A fluffer is—or at least is said to be—someone on a pornographic film set that keeps a male performer erect in between scenes.
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That may be how YOU spend your free time but I have no interest in that...at all.

 

[pnora]

I'm not a fluffer, man....
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fluffer​

[fluhf-er]
Despite what it sounds like, a fluffer isn’t someone who stuffs toy animals. A fluffer is—or at least is said to be—someone on a pornographic film set that keeps a male performer erect in between scenes.
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That may be how YOU spend your free time but I have no interest in that...at all.

Is that why Disney World terminated you.

 

[Kern Dog]

You have an issue with punctuation, don't you?
Questions end with a question mark, not a period.

 

[pnora]

You have an issue with punctuation, don't you?
Questions end with a question mark, not a period.

Is this Jeopardy???????????????????..............................

 

[old guys rule]

Never heard of the brand 'Superstar' springs.....unless you mean Super Stock springs. I don't like them one bit and will stack my own springs to make them work and keep the back end down instead of it looking like a stink bug. Are you drag racing the car?? Originally was going to but things have changed. Physically unable to change them now so I guess I'll live with it

 

[Kern Dog]

Having the rear axle much above stock height will always result in LESS steering caster. Having the front higher than stock also reduces caster due to the design of the front suspension.
This is never an improvement, it will always steer and handle worse.
I see cars set up high and just know that they have far less high speed stability than even one at stock height.

 

[beanhead]

You have an issue with punctuation, don't you?
Questions end with a question mark, not a period.

Is this Jeopardy???????????????????..............................

 

[beanhead]

I'll add that in my experience changing the ride height without a re-alignment didn't cause the car to handle noticeably differently, but when left that way for long enough did show uneven wear on the front tires. I'd say watch out for that especially if going after (yikes) 3 inches...

 

[old guys rule]

I'll add that in my experience changing the ride height without a re-alignment didn't cause the car to handle noticeably differently, but when left that way for long enough did show uneven wear on the front tires. I'd say watch out for that especially if going after (yikes) 3 inches...

I believe I will lower the back end one way or another. Thanks for the advice guys

 

[YY1]

I'll add that in my experience changing the ride height without a re-alignment didn't cause the car to handle noticeably differently, but when left that way for long enough did show uneven wear on the front tires. I'd say watch out for that especially if going after (yikes) 3 inches...

I'll agree but add "excessive" change.

I've had no issues with tire wear at 2" change or less.

 

[Vinny]

What do you mean by replace the rear spring purchase? The front spring Mount is stocked so only has one bolt hole, are you talking aftermarket front mount?

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