Full Roller Rockers

[BDF6]

...Check with rocker arm rebuilders in Redding CA (area) (or whatever their new name is) they had some outstanding rockers but I do not know if they are still in production
they are a good source of info on rockers and shafts- would trust their advice...

YES, this.
ROCKER ARMS UNLIMITED
http://www.rockerarms.com/pages/about.html
They could re-build/manufacture anything you want.
The website does not do their business justice, CALL & TALK TO GARY (owner).
The company was called RAS as in Andy F's article. It has been revived/improved since then.
I have some of their SS bushed ones going in my engine & they are fantastic.

 

[biomedtechguy]

I've used the Mancini rockers and have had no problem. However, they are not bushed, the aluminum body runs directly on the rocker shaft.

Thanks for posting IQ52.
My first thought is aluminum on chrome moly = worn aluminum pretty quickly.
What am I missing? (Other than experience)

 

[IQ52]

Mancini and Harland Sharp claim the 57001-15 rockers are bushed. Guess I'd better do more research.

Where do they make that claim?

http://www.manciniracing.com/ben15alro.html

 

[IQ52]

Thanks for posting IQ52.
My first thought is aluminum on chrome moly = worn aluminum pretty quickly.
What am I missing? (Other than experience)

There is supposed to be an oil wedge between the aluminum and the rocker shaft. I've heard of people running the old Crane Gold Race aluminum rockers for 100,000 miles. And they are not as heavy duty as the Mancini rockers. Hughes Engines make a good aluminum rocker that runs directly on the steel shaft also.

 

[biomedtechguy]

There is supposed to be an oil wedge between the aluminum and the rocker shaft.

That is the only thing I could think of. I guess I should have put that in my post.
That and depending on the aluminum alloy, the hardness could vary?
Thanks IQ52!

 

[StreetWedge65]

1Q52, You're right as right. I just got off the phone with Randy@Harland Sharp. The 57001-15 is NOT a bushed rocker. However, it it constructed with an alloy designed for this application. Not sure why Mancini advertises it as being bushed.
He said these rockers are perfect for hot street/strip cars. As long as lift is less than .700" and below 575 lbs spring pressure. Same warranty as all H rockers.

 

[StreetWedge65]

Where do they make that claim?

http://www.manciniracing.com/ben15alro.html

Received their flyer last week.

 

[biomedtechguy]

depending on the aluminum alloy, the hardness could vary

However, it it constructed with an alloy designed for this application.

BOOYAH!

Not sure why Mancini advertises it as being bushed.

Yeah, I'm not sure why they sell their top of the line pinion snubber, and it bends on the first run down the 1/4 mile.
I sent them a picture upon their request when I called them about it bending. That was about 2 weeks after I bought it, and only a couple of days after it bent.
No reply since I called and emailed the picture, and frankly I've been too busy to follow up with them.
They sent me the wrong pushrods, as in not the ones I ordered, and the wrong lubricant as well.
But they are always so cheerful on the phone....

 

[Bicylindrico]

FWIW I like to use parts made by companies in the profession of actually making those parts. Harland Sharp makes rocker arms. Smith Bros makes push rods. Crower makes camshafts and lifters.

I just don't know where those other companies get their parts from and what the quality level will be. It's nice that there is a one stop SOURCE, or that your name rhymes with linguini, but who actually supplies those parts if it's just their name on them? Do they make it known if they decide to change suppliers? They can't even seem to provide accurate info on the parts they are selling.

 

[IQ52]

Received their flyer last week.

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Ah Ha.........bushed style rocker arms, i.e. without a roller bearing fulcrum, not is a bushed rocker. I should be lawyer.

 

[biomedtechguy]

I should be hunting.

Fixed it for you!
I don't know of many lawyers that are well liked, at least someone always seems to be on the losing side. You help us put Fords and Chebbies in the losing lane, but that is where the similarities end.
Given the high level of success that you have had building Mopar engines, I would say you found a calling. That and your continued support on the forum.

 

[StreetWedge65]

IQ52, I agreed with you. I'm not trying to start any crap. But when they say"bushed" I take that as the item has a bronze, brass, etc bushing installed. Such as in the day, we would rebuild starters, alternators with new bearings and bushings.
i guess my thoughts are out dated. Just thought it was a little missleading of MRE.

 

[biomedtechguy]

IQ52, I agreed with you. I'm not trying to start any crap. But when they say"bushed" I take that as the item has a bronze, brass, etc bushing installed. Such as in the day, we would rebuild starters, alternators with new bearings and bushings.
i guess my thoughts are out dated. Just thought it was a little missleading of MRE.

Bushed style would make quite a few people think "bushed" via some actual metallic bushing, myself included.
I'm pretty sure IQ52 has a lot more important things to do than "elicit crap"
so I don't think anyone takes your posts as you starting any, and he injected some humor in his response, and made his reply clear, certainly to me.
Yes, Mancini should have worded their ad better.

 

[IQ52]

IQ52, I agreed with you. I'm not trying to start any crap. But when they say"bushed" I take that as the item has a bronze, brass, etc bushing installed. Such as in the day, we would rebuild starters, alternators with new bearings and bushings.
i guess my thoughts are out dated. Just thought it was a little missleading of MRE.

True! The ad is completely misleading. Just as any lawyer can make right sound wrong and wrong sound right.

 

[threewood]

So can I call my Stealth Heads "Trick Flow Styled" since they are both aluminum and have ports? lmao


I have the Hughes set and they are not bushed but I like them very much along with my B3RE relocation kit...