HELP!!! 440 Intake Manifold Valley Cover and Gaskets

[69 RR Beep Beep]

Hey All, I bought a new Edelbrock 2191 Performer 440 intake manifold. While trying to install it on my 69 440 Road Runner, I ran into several snags, and hope somebody with more sense than me can straighten me out .
The Fel-Pro rubber gaskets that came with it were .060 thick, and it included 2 very thick cork gaskets for the front and rear. The intake bolts would not line up, so I removed everything and I'm starting over. I am not sure if the heads have been shaved or not. I ordered a new kit gasket set part #1215 (from Advance Auto Parts) from Fel-Pro which includes the valley cover with blocked-off ports for the heat crossover. The new gaskets for the intake to heads are .030 in thickness. I haven't received the gaskets due to them being a special order. I know I have to RTV seal both sides the valley cover before installing it and the rubber and cork gaskets too. Do the cork gaskets for the front and rear go on top of the valley cover, or underneath it??? Some comments on other sites told me to NOT install gaskets period...just use the valley pan cover and use RTV sealant, but I'm skeptical about doing that. Since I've already wasted a few $ on one gasket set, I don't want to repeat my error. Would someone please explain the sequence to me? Can't figure out why Fel-Pro would offer .060 and .030 gaskets? Maybe to make extra money on a dummy like me ;). HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can also email me at


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[Budnicks]

Welcome to FBBO forum... Unless the intake manifold & heads were severely shaved or modified you can just use a metal valley pan/gasket alone, that has the embossed raised sections around the intake ports, no cork on the ends, no rubber on the intake ports necessary, they are for modified parts, miss matched components, Or possibly the other style of valley pans like the 440source or Indy type that don't go up around the intake ports & just cover the lifter valley, then use separate gaskets around the ports... Some guys like to use thin paper/card board {for lack of a better way to explain them} type gasket around the intake ports with the metal valley pan, if they are experiencing a vacuum leaking problem or have slightly milled heads, intake & block... I would 1st try to dry fit the intake, with out the gasket to see if everything lines up properly first, if it does fit properly, then install it with a small amount of silicone on the underside of the metal valley pan around the intake ports, then along the bottom of the head on the matting surface from end to end & under the ends with the 3 bolts & metal plates holding the valley pan/gasket in place...My 2 cents

 

[MarPar]

Hey Budnicks, he double posted this thread..FYI. but we're all in agreement either way! lol

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=32302

 

[Budnicks]

Hey Budnicks, he double posted this thread..FYI. but we're all in agreement either way! lol

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=32302

I didn't see the other post I always check in the general discussion section usually 1st... LOL...

 

[69 RR Beep Beep]

WoW!!! You are FANTASTICK!!! Thanks so much for all your information. This forum is simply awesome!!!

 

[Budnicks]

WoW!!! You are FANTASTICK!!! Thanks so much for all your information. This forum is simply awesome!!!

Your very welcome, that's pretty much, what we are all here for, is to talk about Mopars {mostly} & help fellow Mopar guys/gals out, when we can...