C Perryman,
Lets start back at the beginning.
This is a copy and paste from the 1st page by the original poster for this thread.
"I need to know if you people think the car looks better this low to the ground or like it was before."
Now I'll address your latest comments below:
"I don't know what this has to do w/ anything. At 59/60, certainly you've learned that truth has no age restrictions...or maybe I'm giving you too much credit."
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It has to do with the fact that I am speaking of being there in the day to see what people were doing with their cars. I suspect that you are not old enough to have that experience.
"Hmmm, in post #4 you say this:"
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I would be putting a skid plate on that oil pan though.
ANSWER: That was simply a side comment about protecting his oil pan and has nothing to do with the "look" of the car.
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The "look" of this thread's car is VERY late 60s/early 70s.
Prove it. Show me a period-correct photograph. If you think that, I question your attention to detail, and don't want you touching my car. Also, tell me who during the late 60's/early 70's manufactured a 33" X 22 1/2" tire
ANSWER: Several things here. You reference 33" X 22 1/2" tires several time. The OP was not speaking of the tire size or the suspension of the car only the "look" lower or higher. However I had a 1958 Corvette in 1969 that had air shocks and L60X15s on it which was a BIG tire for back in the day. I also had spacers in the front coil springs to raise the front for tire clearence for the front tires which were much larger than the standard 6.95X15" tires these car came with from the factory. You want proof so I'll post a picture of it. Hard to see in the pictures as they are scans of old Poleroids take in 1970, but you can see the difference in the width of the wheels by the dish difference from front to back. I tried to lighten the picture so you could easier see the width of the rear tires but it did no good. BTW, the color is 1970 Dodge Plum Crazy that I had just had the car repainted days before this picture was taken. Here is a tire size site that shows the size of L60X15"
http://www.turbinecar.com/tires.htm
The link with the picture of Judy Lily's 1968 Hemi Cuda is of a factory sponsored/built car that ran in SS. That is the way it came from the factory (just like the Hemi Darts you referenced) and the wheel wells were done like that at the FACTORY as well as the springs. That is the stance of the car when it left the factory.
It was also a common thing for racers to tub their cars for larger tires without having to raise the suspension.
Air shocks were a very common item back in the day to raise the car for larger tire clearence without making wheel well mods. Most of the street cars were simply trying to put larger tires on the car and this was the cheap answer to accomodate them. Some were trying to emulate what they saw on the strip of cars with supper stock springs and some were just trying to fit the larger tires without rubbing. Either way this is where the "look" came from back in the day. It was hard on unibody componants. Mopars had/have the ability to raise/lower the front end quickly with the T-bars and you would often see the same car from day to day either up or down on the front end. Guys were always playing with the front end and rear end on their street cars back in the day.
Next, since we are discussing a 1969 B body in this thread check the link below and note the stance of the car in the pictures. This was they typical stance of street muscle cars like this back in 1969.
Also note the times of this record holder back in these days.
Remember that NHRA and other sanctioned racing bodies have changed their classifications and rules over the years but when you take all the changes of this into consideration you will find that this car would still be very competitive today.
http://www.remarkablecars.com/for-s...roadrunner-a12-project-six-pack-for-sale.html
A COPY AND PASTE FROM THE ABOVE LINK:
The purpose of Project Six Pack was simple: to go after the record and national competition in A/SA class, and, while doing so, document the entire project in the pages of Super Stock, and pass along the performance gains & knowledge to their readership base. In the October and November 1972 issues, multiple pages and pictures document how the car was set up in preparation for a run at the national title. Run only 11 times in 1972, Project Six Pack tied the national record for the class on its second run, running a 13.12 at 109.09. The car was tweaked for 1973, where it immediately set its sight on the national record of 12.47, set by another A12 Road Runner. While it did not achieve this mark in 1973, the team of Struse, Smith, Welsh, Shaws, Risslers and S/S Magazine continued to tweak and campaign it for years. Project Six Pack went on to break and hold both ends of the C/S National Record, won class at the Sports Nationals two years in a row, and won a trailer full of local Stock Eliminator titles. The car ran a best of 11.61 at 118.26, all in NHRA legal trim.
"I'm confused. Superior? Show me where I said anything remotely like this. C'mon man, now I know you're just making stuff up. Sorry, but I have to question your reading comprehension. Maybe that's why you got whiney in the first place? And if your reading is a little off, who's to say you memory isn't...? Maybe you should consider going to the doctor?"
One of your first comment regarding the 4 link was:
"Saying "Landy says stock height" doesn't mean much either when comparing a leaf spring car to a 4 link where the IC can be anywhere you want it."
ANSWER: To me it sounds like you are saying the 4 link is superior. Or am I wrong about this?
"The whole spiel about street racing is funny too. It's clear you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about."
ANSWER: Yeah, I guess the fact that I grew up in the birth of the muscle car era with both street and sanctioned strip racing is a clear indicator that I know nothing about it. It doesn't matter if it is illegal or not, weather YOU like it or not, it happened, then and now and will continue.
So what have we learned? Simple observation has shown us that 696pack is an older, hypocritical, dillusional individual who doesn't respect laws created and enforced to protect innocent lives. A real stand up guy.
Anything else to share w/ the group about who you are and your character traits? I'm sure many of us are very entertained...
Me? I may come across as a dick, but I don't lie, nor misrepresent facts. I also have a low tolerance for those who are simply full of ****. Now that we've established this, and gotten to know each other, anyone want to join us in a round of Kumbayah?
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Looking at you posts in this thread from the very beginning you have never offered an "opinion" on "higher or lower" as the OP asked for. All of your comment have had to do with performance rather than the look. You have suggested where the car should sit for this. You have stated that you think the car is out dated in it's look and not nostalgic. You are WAY off with that comment as pointed out and proven above. You have asked for engine specs on the car, which has NOTHING to do with the subject of the thread. On top of that, GOOD LUCK getting that info out of a street racer that races for serious dollars, which also gives me some insight to your knowledge of that. You have not had ONE person agree with or support any of your comments in this entire thread. I have tried to be cordial with my comments but it is obvious from YOUR comments that you have mis-interpeted my comments AND you are just plain rude. You name calling and derogatory comments are not the kind of thing that is tolorated for long on this site so don't be surprised if you are scoulded, ignored or given a vacation. No one is trying to run you off or ignor your opinions, you just need to learn to put then in the right place and repond to the threads original questions rather than run a thread off track. Start some of your own threads if you find yourself sidetrack by comments in another post. I don't lower myself to name calling and insults as you do but I will
BOLD some of you comments and signature. Remember, these are YOUR WORDS not mine. :rolling::tongueflap:
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