IMHO it's 1969 again.

[kiwigtx]

if you hear any whining it's me! Just received my first bill with the new public benefit rate last month it was $42 this month $120 mf dollars.

 

[Fran Blacker]

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Didn't want to start another.

 

[1STMP]

Well, from one old-timer to another (?), I hope you live longer than the period in which you may be proven wrong

A few retorts:

Costs of EVs don't seem to be proving to be an obstacle. All new vehicles are expensive due to technology and mandated equipment, not just electric and electric hybrids. Even with the added expense of electric/hybrids, sales have surged since 2018, and this during a time of a pandemic, inflation, shipping problems, and parts unavailability. As technology improves and more units are sold, costs of EVs will close in on ICE vehicles.

It is statistically reported that fuel cars catch fire at a much, MUCH higher rate than electric cars. You just hear about the battery fires more because it is sensationalized by the media and used by anti-electric car people to disparage electric cars.

There are a ton of companies and very smart people working on battery technology that will eventually break through. America has always risen to meet technology challenges and make a buck. I would never bet against that!

"It is statistically reported that fuel cars catch fire at a much, MUCH higher rate than electric cars. You just hear about the battery fires more because it is sensationalized by the media and used by anti-electric car people to disparage electric cars."

I would say it's because of the intencity more than
frequency.
EV fires are impossible to extinguish via conventional
methods. And it's not just full sized vehicles that fall
under this umbrella. E-bikes and scooters are prone to
explode due to over charging.
About half of reported ICE vehicle fires stem from eldctrical
problems. So the frequency of gasoline vs electric when it
comes to your car burning to the ground, makes no sense
when it's said one is just as dangerous as the other.
It's the ability to put the fire out that matters.

 

[33 IMP]

It's statistically reported that there are ten of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of gasoline-powered cars verses each electric. OF COURSE there are more gasoline-powered fires.
But I'm betting the percentage of fires per car is higher for the electrics. Gasoline cars don't spontaneously ignite, a fuel leak vapor and spark is necessary. Electrics go BOOM, all by themselves.
I charge my electric scooter 100 feet away from the house and garage.

 

[biomedtechguy]

That song became a "vacation in Florida" song for me in 1968 IIRC.
I was 6 years old.
Playing once every 90 minutes, 'Crystal Blue Persuasion" was just the perfect tempo, instruments, theme, everything in harmony with the sugar-white sands a clear blue-green waters.
A year later, my parents would buy a 69 B-5 Blue 383 auto Roadrunner, and I would be along for a brief highway pursuit of a speeder, and that experience would be the unbreakable roots of my lifetime MOPAR Nation membership.

 

[Photon440]

It's statistically reported that there are ten of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of gasoline-powered cars verses each electric. OF COURSE there are more gasoline-powered fires.
But I'm betting the percentage of fires per car is higher for the electrics. Gasoline cars don't spontaneously ignite, a fuel leak vapor and spark is necessary. Electrics go BOOM, all by themselves.
I charge my electric scooter 100 feet away from the house and garage.

Never mind the TOTAL amount of cars of each type. For every 100,000 gasoline cars, there have been 1529.9 fires. For every 100,000 electric cars, 25.1 fires.

If fifty electric cars catch fire in a year, you can bet that most of them will make news headlines. On the other hand, according the the NTSB, most of the 120,000 gasoline vehicle fires each year only make local news. (Sourced from NTSB, Motor Trend, Popular Science and Electrek) There's a gas car catching fire every five minutes in the USA.

The one fact most alarming is what's already been mentioned: battery fires are more difficult to extinguish, and they release more toxic smoke.

 

[WileE]

MSN

 

[WileE]

Tesla erupts in flames inside flooded Florida garage following Hurricane Helene: scary video

 

[biomedtechguy]

MSN

I watched the gas station camera video that captured the Tesla SPEEDING down that section of road and flying through the stop sign intersection that's a T !!
They were driving "towards the top of the T" and slammed into a stone embankment that the top of the T would be!

 

[Nxcoupe]

I was watching the 'news' and this idiot reporter was talking about how EV fires require more water to extinguish. Lol. Water doesn't extinguish a chemical lithium fire idiot! Wish they would research before they spout off.

 

[biomedtechguy]

I was watching the 'news' and this idiot reporter was talking about how EV fires require more water to extinguish. Lol. Water doesn't extinguish a chemical lithium fire idiot! Wish they would research before they spout off.

All too common for "the media"...

 

[Richard Cranium]

MSN

“We heard popping and we saw that it was a Tesla"