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Leaking windshield again!!!!

Thanks Onlyone, I'll go with the soft stuff. Part of owning these old cars is the tinkering, the last thing I need is a windshield removal down the road turning into a touch up on the paint.

I still can't believe the amount of water that got in, thankful I did the floors in bedliner now.
The trim removal tool won't be here until Mon so I'll tackle it next weekend.
 
I just wanted to thank you guys once again, I truly love this forum, it doesn't matter if it's Medical, Carpentry, Electrical or Mopar related there's always a knowledgeable guy out there with answers willing to help.
 
Mike67 said:
Not trying to scare you but the Nova we just finished up cost 2 windshields and 3 gaskets before We found one that fit half way decent... Hopefully this is not your issue. Good luck with it!
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This from my limited experiace with the new gaskets on the market.








So did someone MEAN to disagree with the 3M 08509 usage for windshields?
It IS a glazing product per the Mfg.
Well. I have nothing.
 
onlyone said:
This from my limited experiace with the new gaskets on the market.








So did someone MEAN to disagree with the 3M 08509 usage for windshields?
It IS a glazing product per the Mfg.
Well. I have nothing.
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Me no savy...??? Lol! Not sure what youre asking...did you have to go through multiple gaskets?
 
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onlyone said:
This from my limited experiace with the new gaskets on the market.








So did someone MEAN to disagree with the 3M 08509 usage for windshields?
It IS a glazing product per the Mfg.
Well. I have nothing.
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I'd say someone was disagreeing with the use of Urethane (gluing it in)? Just quessing.
 
Mike67 said:
Me no savy...??? Lol! Not sure what youre asking...did you have to go through multiple gaskets?
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I'm saying I tried two new ones on the charger front glass.
Both had puckers.
And the back glass rubber ....don't even go there. Saw daylight under it.

For the record it depends on the car as to which I would use.
I did two A bodies 15 years ago. I reused the windshield rubbers and glued them in with that polyurethane.
They are drivers and I've actually been able to change a cracked windshield with the gasket staying in place.
No leaks ever.
That's a win win if I've ever seen one.
 
themechanic said:
Get the windshield molding polished while it's off unless you already did that.
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The car was freshly restored 3 years ago so all is good..... I don't like shiny stuff, I gave it the brushed look.
 








































I also have used this stuff, it will flow where nothing else will go.


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Pulling the trim and glass was a breeze thanks to you guys pointing me to the right tool, cleaning the left over butyl not so fun but everything looked really good once done. I would have taken more pics but once I had the caulking tube malfunction I was covered in the crap the rest of the night..... looked like a 2 year old installed it! I'm pretty confident it CAN'T leak anymore but will let you guys know.:thumbsup:

All in all..... I don't ever want to do that again, what a mess! Hours of cleaning both me and the car.... got it on my shirt which started tracking it on the car then no shirt:BangHead:.

After reading the label on the new gasket I saw 66-72 B body, sumbitch.... the car I bought my daughter will require the same thing!!!!:BangHead: Think I'll buy the sealants and advise a pro on how to do it instead.

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Part of the issue is the replacement glass in most cases is thinner than the original factory glass
Good luck with sealing
 
I have the same problem with my Road Runner - I get water coming in on the passenger side. I'm just trying to ensure I know where the water is coming from before I dive in. I had a professional install my windshield because I didn't want it to leak. He used what I think was butyl and seemed pretty competent. So is it the windshield or something else? I hate it but I just feel like it is the windshield... :(

Let us know your results once you test it out! I hope yours is cured!

Hawk
 
hsorman said:
I have the same problem with my Road Runner - I get water coming in on the passenger side. I'm just trying to ensure I know where the water is coming from before I dive in. I had a professional install my windshield because I didn't want it to leak. He used what I think was butyl and seemed pretty competent. So is it the windshield or something else? I hate it but I just feel like it is the windshield... :(

Let us know your results once you test it out! I hope yours is cured!

Hawk
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I don't think it was the windshield, he filled the windshield groove in the gasket with butyl the last time and the way the seal locks it should allow for slight thickness differences. I'm almost positive it's the piss poor design on the cowl, there's no lip or anything just a valley that the gasket basically lays in with 3 tabs that hold the gasket. I'm pretty sure the bedding compound that Missle recommended is the trick, it's about like soft roofing tar in texture and flows really good when you lay the gasket in. Pretty sure it will seal it. If it's your glass all you have to do is pull the trim, unlock the gasket and apply butyl in the slot and lock the gasket back in.. messy!

It's raining right now, might go park it outside, I've got a lot of drywall sanding to do anyways.
 
I was worried about this very issue when I went to remove my non leaking original tinted windshield. What I did was examine the original method of installation as I was cutting it out. I could see where the materials were placed and how deep/thick it was in various places. Took notes. There was a ton of stuff in there other than the gasket, on both front and back windows. The technology for window installation was cro magnon when these cars were made. It seemed as though the gasket was less than half of the game in sealing it all up.
 
Ghostrider 67 said:
The technology for window installation was cro magnon when these cars were made. It seemed as though the gasket was less than half of the game in sealing it all up.
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I agree. Not sure were I read this, but these car's front and back windows started leaking three, to four weeks after they rolled off the assembly line. That is evident in most all of them requiring floorboards and trunk pans.

When I witnessed the massive, messy, globs of butyl that it took to stop my Duster's windshield from leaking I knew the design of sealing the front and back glass was marginal at best.
 
It's almost as if Ma MOPAR expected them to be wrecked or something, like right away.
 
Alright fellas.... I think that royal pain in my @ss is behind me now:thumbsup:. Pulled it out to sit in a nasty downpour for a lengthy amount of time and can't find an ounce of moisture anywhere inside. Thanks guys
 
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