ckessel
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Welcome from the central coast of Cal. I admire your bravery taking that project on.
Noted!Be sure to involve a good frame shop in the build process. They may want to do some pulling before you cut any sheet metal off.
Mike
Dodge and plymouth both used a dana 60 behind 440 4 speeds. So there are some out there.Interesting, the guy that I got my 69 from also has a Dana car as well. The Dana cars are even rarer that the 426 hemi and a12 cars aren't they? Don't know much about them as my mopar knowledge only extends to a month,but from what I read the seem super rare.
Thanks, beautiful view! I searched both front and rear seats for a build sheet was nothing was there. It would've been great to have one but luckily all of the major features are visible on the remains of the fender tag. I thought it came with side scoops because of the holes but I don't see the code on the fender tag. I guess either the dealer installed them afterwards maybe?Welcome from the central coast of Cal. I admire your bravery taking that project on.
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Gotcha,so getting possession of the rear end alone is not an easy task I'm guessing.Dodge and plymouth both used a dana 60 behind 440 4 speeds. So there are some out there.
The A12 is one of the few cars that got a dana behind a 727.
they pop up on the site,no biggieGotcha,so getting possession of the rear end alone is not an easy task I'm guessing.
You are a person of great vision taking on this challenge, we need more people like you in the world!Just bought my first mopar. I bring you greetings fron the Gen 1 camaro world "68 z28". I made this post specifically for everyone to tell that they would pay $500 for it and it's too far gone haha. The bad is obviously shown in the pictures,so I'll tell you about the good amd why I decided to buy the car:
- Real 1969 superbee bee
-Numbers matching 383 4v 4 speed car
-Factory N96 car, and and has the following codes that you can make out from the fender tag "in person":
-E63, D21, Y2, Y2, H2X, X9, A31, A62, J25, M21, N96, R11, V1X, V8X, 26, END
-Comes with an extra 8-9k in parts to complete the car including :
*Additional stock hood
*2 usable doors
*2 additional front fenders
*Additional trunk lid
*Additional bellhousing
*833 23 spline 4 speed transmission
*Left and right new reproduction Sherman quater skins
*pillar post section from a good car to replace the one of the drivers side.
*Additional front bumber bracket
-The VIN, fender tag, radiator support, trunk gutter and engine are all Numbers matching.
-Comes with a clean title
-Factory colors are y2 yellow with a black vinyl top. It's was painted brown on the 70's
-Price was somewhere between $0-$10,000
I bought this particular car mainly because it's a verifiable Numbers matching 383 4 speed n96 car and it deserves to see the road again. Won't see it this year or next year,but in the next few coming years haha. Despite the condition of the car currently,I'm happy with my purchase.
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Thanks for the heads up and advice! I'm not going for a concourse orginal type car. The will definitely be receiving a modern up to date comfortable interior and probably some modern suspension upgrades haha. Although the car is not rare in terms of being an a12 or 426 car,it is on the rarer side of the spectrum with it being a numbers 4 speed n96 car with desirable colors and has the 3.91 rear-end vs just a standard rear-end. Of the 25,000ish super bee's produced in 1969,I think it would be a huge challenge to find 2000 of them that still have their orginal engines,are 4 speed,and were factory ramchargers from the factory. So they may now be as rare as the a12 cars but I would definitely consider them scarce in terms of having all of the above combined into 1 car. Any 60 year old super that still has the original engine is atleast scarce haha. Thanks for the heads up on the rarity of mopars in general. I was originally going to buy a 68 charger out of Illinois,but decided not to as I ended up feeling the superbee more and it had the original engine. I'm not a numbers matching maxi,but I definitely see the scarcity in a number car vs a numbers match car. My Z is non numbers car but has the correct 302. I went through hell and high water to authentic the car as a real Z haha. Got lucky and found the original EE 68 z28 only spring tags on the car that supported the 4:10 that it has. If it were numbers matching then all I would need to do is look at the partial vin on the engine,but it's rare to have the orginal engine in those cars as most got blow up. Thanks for the connections on the parts down sound. I'll be sure to check them out as well. Thanks.Obviously it’s entirely up to you but I would recommend NOT chasing the “original” path, it’s going to be very expensive and in the end you don’t really have the car you are seeing in your head right now (unless that is what you are seeing lol). My point is this, make the car that you want, a 383 4 spd N96 car is cool but it not especially rare (read valuable), you are enjoy this build and the car ALOT more if you build it the way you want it.
Since you are a Chevy guy let me in on a little Mopar secret, they ALL are rare bc Mopar seldom ever did the same thing twice and they were happy to build anything anyone wanted. They put weird options onto sales bank cars (cars headed to sit on a lot to be sold to whomever) because they did not want the inventory of unused parts laying around the plant. You commonly find very stange color combinations throughout the 60’s and 70’s cars. This is one of the reasons I think many people bought GM or Fords bc Mopar was always a bit strange.
All the parts you want/need are out there and there are specialized parts places like Stephen’s Performance in AL or Wildcat Salvage in OR that have a lot of used parts not to mention members here.
Have fun with the car and enjoy it and make it your own
Thanks,I'm also into the pontiac 421 super duty stuff as well. I don't own one of the cars but I down own one of the actual engine from dual carbs to oil pan. Sourcing all ofvthe parts of one of the hardest thing I've done in regards to a car haha. When I found out that this car came with a bunch of parts that they don't make or that you can't find easily,I was all over it haha. Now if it didn't have all of the parts included with It,then I likely would've passed on it. Taking on the project is already a huge task as it. Adding on the fact that I can get the parts needed to restore it as well would've been a bit much.You are a person of great vision taking on this challenge, we need more people like you in the world!
*Additional trunk lid - key component, tough to find reasonable priced used and AMD does not produce.
Keep the updates coming.
So sorry to hear about your daughter! I can't imagine! I see that you purchased your car in 80 from your dad. This was 9 years before I was born haha. Do you still have your Superbike? If so,I imagine you are in a exclusive group of people that actually own those haha.Welcome to the club... all you need to know is here and the start back on Dodge Chargers . Com
1969 Dodge Super Bee Coupe Restoration
Superbird... yes.So sorry to hear about your daughter! I can't imagine! I see that you purchased your car in 80 from your dad. This was 9 years before I was born haha. Do you still have your Superbike? If so,I imagine you are in a exclusive group of people that actually own those haha.
Sorry,auto correct gets the best of me 99% of the time haha. Very nice,love the color combo! That is a rare bird indeed!
Thanks,I was watching a video on YouTube today and they're were showing how the airgrabber and ramcharger are actually built different and are not the same. One pulls air from the side and one pulls air from the top.Ramcharger is correct for a Dodge, Airgrabber is correct for a
Ramcharger is correct for a Dodge, Airgrabber is correct for a Plymout