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Opioid Epidemic Fox Special

Dennis H

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More victims. Like cigarettes, every pill or whatever placed into your body is put there BY YOUR OWN HAND. Now taxpayers have to fix this. Blame everyone but the user. Choices. Consequences. Doctors practice medicine. It's all about pain management. Figure out what works for you. Pills and meds not the answer. No sympathy here. Another drain on the taxpyer for ambulance rides etc. Grieving parents can look in the mirror.
 
The Ripper said:
Condensing the opioid issue down to that simple drivel shows you have no clue.
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That's right. Life interesting enough. No need to put that **** in your body. Willpower. Most of us don't, and don't blame others if we do.
 
I've never used any drugs or alcohol in my life. My sister, on the other hand, is a pill popper and alcoholic. We grew up in the same household, same environment with the same issues. Only 3 or 4 years difference in age. She's younger. She's been arrested several times. I've never had handcuffs on. She's been on disability for several years now. I work.
It's the users fault. Nobody else to blame but themselves.
 
When you have a safety net, where's the incentive to quit. You want to get tough on drugs, do away with all the safety nets. You o.d. - you die. When the customer base dies off, the drug problem is solved.
 
It's a epidemic of incredible proportions.

They just busted a group in Dauphin Co. Pa. this week for over four million dollars worth of herion and coacain. People are overdosing from it by the thousands. Almost every crime committed that you hear about is drug related. A large majority of the homicides that you hear about are drug related.

Now how much is all of that costing the taxpayers? It's going to cost the taxpayers even more if they don't curb all of this product that's getting into the country. That's going to have a big price tag too with increased border security and policing, but it's been unchecked for quite awhile now and it needs to be a top priority.

It's a war, a different kind of war that the government has to get busy with because of its impact on the whole country.

My friend just got beat up by her 28 year old daughter, again. I had to take her to the ER for stitches. The daughter is in jail, yet again. It's a revolving door. One user effects so many people. She went through this last year with her son. He's been doing good, this time around. Does my friend deserve all of this?

Who's to blame? Worry about what it cost the taxpayer all you want, but what's more important?
 
Stanton said:
When you have a safety net, where's the incentive to quit. You want to get tough on drugs, do away with all the safety nets. You o.d. - you die. When the customer base dies off, the drug problem is solved.
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When one user dies, there's another to take their place. Maybe a family member or friend of yours.
 
Now there are a lot of "medical marijuana" drug dealers out there, known as "dispensaries" to make it sound more legit I suppose! This is nothing but a way to condone, if not encourage drug use in this country. I know some of you "recreational" dope smokers will say "marijuana/cannabis is not a drug, it's not habit forming, blah blah blah.......BULLSHIT! Yes it is. I used to smoke a good spliv now and then when I was a rock and roller and I saw where some of my band mates graduated to, they went on to bigger and better drugs, a lot of them died as a result. . Same thing with prescription drugs, America is overdosing everyday on pills. Just look at the shopping bags full of meds people pick up daily at pharmacies. Some are necessary, most probably are not. I don't know if its doctors just prescribing meds to get the patients out of their offices or whether it is the patients thinking the meds will fix whatever ails them, whether lifestyle related or if it is a real medical situation.
 
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Any conversation about the opioid epidemic should start with doctors and Big Pharma.
They get people hooked.....and those people eventually graduate to Heroin because it is so cheap.

Did you know that a persons chances of getting addicted spike at 5 days of use of legally prescribed painkillers?

Blaming parenting is pretty naive and counterproductive
While it may play a role in some cases, the problem is way more complex than that.
There are plenty of good parents with addicted or dead kids.

Some good info here
http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/3/23/14987892/opioid-heroin-epidemic-charts
 
fwi said:
Now there are a lot of "medical marijuana" drug dealers out there, known as "dispensaries" to make it sound more legit I suppose! This is nothing but a way to condone, if not encourage drug use in this country. I know some of you "recreational" dope smokers will say "marijuana/cannabis is not a drug, it's not habit forming, blah blah blah.......BULLSHIT! Yes it is.
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FACT: Cannabis is far less addictive and harmful than alcohol.
Many people successfully use it to manage chronic pain, PTSD, and other issues.
 
I smoked cigarettes for years. I don't blame the tobacco companies. Every one was lit by me. If lung issues make me sick, I can look in the mirror not blame others. Choices. Personal responsibilities and consequences.
 
Dennis H said:
I smoked cigarettes for years. I don't blame the tobacco companies. Every one was lit by me. If lung issues make me sick, I can look in the mirror not blame others. Choices. Personal responsibilities and consequences.
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The dangers of smoking have been pretty well known for many years.
The dangers of a 10 day supply of OxyContin, not so much.

35 billion $$$ in Oxy sales, fueled by false marketing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...03e1f6394c9_story.html?utm_term=.4301bd1a5900
 
Pharma. Marketing. All responsibility belongs elsewhere. The USER puts it in their body.
No pressure or marketing or Doctor is going to make me use.
 
Dennis H said:
Pharma. Marketing. All responsibility belongs elsewhere. The USER puts it in their body.
No pressure or marketing or Doctor is going to make me use.
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Do you blame the people of Flint, Michigan for drinking their water?
After all, they "put it in their body"
 
Remember how years ago before air bags, safety warnings and government agencies, the WEAK just sort of died off ? This country, in the interest of being a compassionate, caring and nurturing society has become soft. John Wayne would shake his head in disgust at how soft and weak we have become. Guys caring more about hair gel and abdominal muscles rather than riding broncs and rebuilding carburetors. Women wanting to be Firemen or Electricians...
I have never had pain so bad that I have been prescribed anything that "hooked" me. My younger brother did die from years of Methamphetamine abuse though. My Dad drank enough that it sent him to an early Urn.
My take on addiction: Unless you have actually dealt with it yourself, you may not know the strength that an addiction has over you. My brother was not an idiot, he knew what he was doing. He had years of meth and when he tried to quit, life was just too slow and bland by comparison. Something like travelling at 100 mph for 20 miles then having to drive at 15 mph for another 20. It isn't just the drug, it is how they feel when ON that drug. He left behind a Wife and 2 young boys that he loved. I don't blame other people for his mistakes. I do blame him but I think that there is more to the matter of dealing with addiction than simply telling the user to STOP.
I also think that it is a bullshit move to legalize any of these drugs that have been illegal in the past. How the hell can society be a better place with MORE idiot stoners in the workplace, driving on the roads, posting stuff on FBBO, etc???
 
fwi said:
Now there are a lot of "medical marijuana" drug dealers out there, known as "dispensaries" to make it sound more legit I suppose! This is nothing but a way to condone, if not encourage drug use in this country. I know some of you "recreational" dope smokers will say "marijuana/cannabis is not a drug, it's not habit forming, blah blah blah.......BULLSHIT! Yes it is. I used to smoke a good spliv now and then when I was a rock and roller and I saw where some of my band mates graduated to, they went on to bigger and better drugs, a lot of them died as a result. . Same thing with prescription drugs, America is overdosing everyday on pills. Just look at the shopping bags full of meds people pick up daily at pharmacies. Some are necessary, most probably are not. I don't know if its doctors just prescribing meds to get the patients out of their offices or whether it is the patients thinking the meds will fix whatever ails them, whether lifestyle related or if it is a real medical situation.
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heres someone who up until Christmas smoked a LOT of weed EVERY day since I was 18 ( ounce a month ), kept a job for 27 years now ,own my own home, raised three great girls did all the "normal " things that a straight laced type does . stopped "cold turkey " boxing day just to prove to MYSELF that I could ,been 4 months now everything is the same just not as relaxed as I was ( noises on the street now wake me up ) . its no different to alcohol , cigarettes etc !! if you are weak willed you try other things if your not you don't , its in the genes some people are predisposed to addiction they can't help it. by the way I will start smoking again when I want to
 
The OP could replace "opioid" with "obesity".
The physical condition of folks in this country is pitiful. The costs to the healthcare system is enormous. (Yep, taxpayers end up with the bill)
Good thing for the USA that being a slob is much more socially acceptable than being a drug user.

These are both very complex issues. Stating that "hey, just don't put it in your mouth" is the answer is beyond ignorant.
 
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