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Propane

Don selleck

Don selleck

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woke up this morning cold as hell 58, been smelling a garbage smell, they put the rotten egg smell in the tank so when you can smell it, but since covid I got my smell back but things smell different than they used too. I'm on a keep full program so no emergency fill up charge. Tied into the existing line to the new shop and my old barn, keep them on 50 but I've been turning the shop up working out there everyday so here we busted out a couple electric pelonis heaters we had laying around and cracked the faucets to keep them from freezing. waiting for the big blue truck right now, they opened at 8am. called the emergency line at 610 this morning. It;s currently 3 degrees outside, great time to run out. :wetting:
 
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Hank would be appalled
 
If you smell Mercaptan, you may have a leak. I'd definately check all your lines and equipment before restarting anything.
 
Moms68 said:
If you smell Mercaptan, you may have a leak. I'd definately check all your lines and equipment before restarting anything.
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ya I don't it just sucks down a tank when it gets really cold here been 3 weeks since they have been here, had a few cold snaps lately, heating three buildings basically. been with them for years, called back sent me to a automated system says I am scheduled for a delivery on or before tomorrow, my tank is 500 gallons they refused me a 1000 gallon I requested last summer. so probably will be shopping for a new company in about 10 minutes, hope menards has some more electric heaters in stock so much
 
Why would they refuse to sell/rent you a bigger tank, that's MORE gas for them to sell.....dang, especially if you're out in three weeks...?
 
They fill up propane tanks to 75-80% which is at least 400 gallons. Thats a lot of propane to go through in only three weeks!
 
A 1000 gal tank will run you through the winter, where as a 500 gal tank will need refill during the winter when the price of gas is higher. That's how they make money. I started out with 500 gal and quickly saw the cost of fill up during the winter and changed to a 1000 gal which will run me all year letting me dictate when I refill it while price is low.
 
You need a tank heater as propane is not vaporizing when tank is low with less surface area wet inside to absorb heat from the air
 
GTXDAN said:
A 1000 gal tank will run you through the winter, where as a 500 gal tank will need refill during the winter when the price of gas is higher. That's how they make money. I started out with 500 gal and quickly saw the cost of fill up during the winter and changed to a 1000 gal which will run me all year letting me dictate when I refill it while price is low.
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makes sense them capitalistic pigs :lol:
 
I live in a 1840's farm house remodeled 80% of it when spray foam was big money, so I used batt insulation installed properly but with the cracks and gaps throughout the place it leaks. i would go through a tank in a month for all winter before the remodel, ended up buying a pellet burner saved me thousands but that went south when the main company that sells them went to small bags for grilling. henry county hardwoods, again another capitalistic move probably made them a hell of alot more. pellets range in difference alot, just couldn't find a good manufacturer that had good pellets, i guess i was spoiled. remodeled the rest of the house with sprayfoamed a few years ago and crawled around the depths of the michigan basement and crawl spaces tightened it up alot, but my new shop thats all spray foamed with over double the cubic ft. uses way less than the house.
 
well most of the problem solved, went to a local provider where I get my welding gas from, set up a tank drop, 10% cheaper also, but no install for a week, so got (2) 100 pound tanks I'll have to swap out. so turned on the wall heater stink bombs on low in the barn, turned off the furnace, got the shop down to 42, and the house at 68. have a feeling i will be seeing my new friends at baker propane quite often for the next week. disconnected the Ferrell gas propane tank put a lock on the cover and wrote do not fill on tank and moved it off the tank pad I poured a few years ago. Can't contact them to let them know to get f--ked, all automated no talking to anyone after the propane is ordered, and who knows when they will be here maybe today maybe tomorrow. Was 4 degrees out this morning without wind chill. they simply don't give a **** about a customer thats paid them on time for 20 years:icon_fU:
 
1,000 gal.s (it's usually measured in cubic feet here)
hell I only use 100 gal.s/cu. ft. a year, in a 120 cu/ft vessel
got rid of the 400 gal.s cu/ft - vessel, that was in the middle of the dang yard,
driveway, by the carport outback, where we had to back around it, prior...
Now the only thing on propane now, is our 50 gal. Hot Water heater
& we can't get natural gas up here, that's far cheaper
only propane or Electric, no fuel oil either...
(claim they Can't trench thru granite)

But, you can go out & chop wood, haul & split it & stack it & then bring it in
load it into the stove, handling it 5 times before it's burned :poke: ,
work your *** off, we have a crapload of it for the taking,
with all the beetle kill, all over the Sierras...
&
PG&E doing tree removals, millions of trees by power lines, between the 2...
Dad can't breath very well when we burn, so I don't... :BangHead:
Trees anywhere near the power lines/poles etc.
or a tree that could possibly fall on/into them even, million just up here
they remove the tree/s, it's state laws crap, we have no choice now,
they cut it/buck it in like 8-12' lenghts & leave the tree trunks
haul off the slag in a chipper, huge contract up here, lots of $$$ spent/wasted
so they don't get sued again...

We paid for it...

Like they PG&E did after burning down a whole mountain town of Paradise
a couple years back...
About the same time as the Rim Fire in Yosemite too...
That started a huge wildfire, all over the Central Eastern Sierras,
from PG&E allegedly not maintaining their lines properly & transformers etc. :blah:
still reaping in the profits, not doing the work for it...

That move/change not using a propane heater, & electric air handler
saved me like $3,500 a year, I had a 400 gal. - cu/ft vessel
they'd let it get down to 20%, usually, filled like monthly
(Both) had a monitor/beacons on it, & it 'beeps when they drive by'
to warn them, when we need propane...

& I'm still ahead of the game $$$ wise, yearly expenses
ours is like $2.40 per/cubic foot, in a Co-op through JS West, from SIRs
(Seniors In Retirement), usually only get about 80 cu/ft now, last us a year
about $200 + or - $20-$40s worth, it's cold here too...
Just don't use it for heat anymore...

I pay like $1,500-$2,000 more annually for electricity though now :blah:
But, now our electricity per kilowatt from PG&E is 3 times the price, :BangHead:
it was 4+ years ago, especially during peak use hours...
when cooking or cooling or heating the house
When they/PG&E were complicit/negligent, in burning down Paradice
& 1/2 the Sierra's Forest, here & they were sued over it,
billions (like 9 ? billion) of $$s settlements/awarded...

Can't win for losing... We end up paying anyway...
 
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