Reproduce a fender tag, Yes? No? Maybe???

[68gtxman]

Mine was missing, though I had the build sheet. I bought this on eBay just to fill the empty spot under the hood.

 

[Bart K]

Not all original fender tags had inspectors marks btw.....Reproduction ones are usually easily to spot.......

What makes the car original is what it actually has and not what you can replace......

Do you have a Build Sheet? If so than that is your fender tag and more on paper......

Unknown on the build sheet yet. Right now the glove box has been removed, so I am guessing the one that may have been behind that is not there. We have not had a chance to check under the back seat yet, so I hope it is still there and in one piece. This brings up another question, is the build information available from Chrysler Corp.?

 

[Bart K]

Depends.....

Are you the type of person that likes to spend good money on bad parts?

Would you spend $150 for a part that you knew was wrong for your car?
Would you spend the money on a part that would cause owners down the line to think you were a complete idiot?
Would you spend the money on a part that makes others question your honesty and integrity?

If yes, then please proceed with buying a phony tag.

I hear what you are saying, and in my case, I am not trying to mislead anyone, just correct a situation caused by an outside force (car thieves). I would have no problem telling anyone that the tag is a reproduction, or even have it marked as such. If I get this car, the fact that it was stolen is part of it's story. I would not be selling it while I was alive anyway. Anyhow, thanks for your opinion, this is the kind of feedback I was looking for!

 

[Bart K]

I would like to get one for my GTX driver. It's a motstly orginal appearing car and I think it just makes the engine compartment look complete. I think a tag should be there, itsi getting so most stuff is reproduced any more so if you're paying for an unmolested car you better be on your toes from the get go.

That being said, where is the best place to get one?

Thanks

I have no idea where to get a repop tag, but I can tell you that there is a ton of numbers manipulation in the Corvette world. Blocks are re-stamped, date correct new parts are available, etc. One line of thought says all this is cheating and nefarious, another line of thought says this is an effort to restore as new. My thought is if you build a car that is so correct that no one can tell it is not original, does it matter? If I had a car that had been modified in an effort to be "correct", I would certainly tell any buyer the truth, but that is me, and I am sure there are people who would be willing to knowing misrepresent something. For me, my integrity is worth more than any amount of gain I might realize by knowingly perpetrating a fraud.

 

[Bart K]

If you don’t have a build sheet, replacing a fender tag is a guessing game. Even if you know what options it came with. Do you know the build date? Do you know the order number? Was it ordered by a military member over seas? Built for USA specs? And different plants stamped tags differently.

Point taken, thank you!

 

[Dragon Slayer]

You will never get agreement on this issue. The tag is treated as if it was the motor. YET, folks move VIN tags across dashes, replicate VIN Decals on Door, have after market fake parts all over the car, replicate hose stampings, inspector paint markings, carb and distributor tags, and the list goes on... all to make it more original.

But do the Fender tag and all hell breaks loose. Yet there are OEM Restored car out there that are in #1 condition with a reproduction tag, because the original was so badly corroded along with a lot of metal on the car. So do what you want, it is your car. But you will not get validation here.

 

[Bart K]

You will never get agreement on this issue. The tag is treated as if it was the motor. YET, folks move VIN tags across dashes, replicate VIN Decals on Door, have after market fake parts all over the car, replicate hose stampings, inspector paint markings, carb and distributor tags, and the list goes on... all to make it more original.

But do the Fender tag and all hell breaks loose. Yet there are OEM Restored car out there that are in #1 condition with a reproduction tag, because the original was so badly corroded along with a lot of metal on the car. So do what you want, it is your car. But you will not get validation here.

Thanks for the reply. As I mentioned in the original post, I did not want to start a fight. What I did want was to hear the different opinions that forum members had so I could take all the replies in to consideration before I make a decision. But let me not get ahead of myself.....I still need to buy the car if possible, and that drama continues on the thread mentioned in my original post. If there are additional opinions, please post them!

 

[Bart K]

As I understand it, Galen Govier is the god of Mopar numbers. His site http://galengovier.com/ says this:

Who is Galen Govier & What is GTS?
Let me explain, GTS is not a Car Club, it is the name of my business. It stands for Galen’s Tag Service. I reproduce rusty or missing fender tags for 1962-1974 Dodge, Plymouth & Chrysler products, and am considered the acknowledged authority on the decoding of VIN, fender tag, and Broadcast Sheet Information for all Mopars.

I guess my question is if the Mopar numbers god reproduces fender tags, how can it be wrong? Are those opposed to reproduced fender tags against it even if Galen creates it? Is he just in it for the money? What about the argument that if I put a repopped fender tag on my car, I am responsible for all future lies regarding that car. If Galen's business is at least partially reproducing fender tags, then he must be responsible for thousands or hundreds of thousands of lies. Not trying to start an argument, just wanting to understand where Galen Govier fits in to the equation.

 

[moparnation74]

Unknown on the build sheet yet. Right now the glove box has been removed, so I am guessing the one that may have been behind that is not there. We have not had a chance to check under the back seat yet, so I hope it is still there and in one piece. This brings up another question, is the build information available from Chrysler Corp.?

Also, not every car they placed a BS.....plants and employees did different things etc.....

Next best thing is an original window sticker but not complete on all options...

Again to repeat, not to you....all reproduction fender tags are easy to spot...

 

[streetwedg]

The build sheets were never intended to to go with the car. The reason they are found in seats and behind glove box is simple. These parts were assembled in different areas and hung onto feeder lines that took the parts in sequence to the main assembly line. The worker that installed the parts could look at the build sheets on the car and parts to verify the the parts he was installing were the correct ones for that car, they were supposed to be removed and thrown in trash, but to save time that seldom happened.

 

[flypaper]

As I understand it, Galen Govier is the god of Mopar numbers.

Get it right
He is the God of using Mopar numbers
To enrich himself and nothing more..

 

[Bart K]

The build sheets were never intended to to go with the car. The reason they are found in seats and behind glove box is simple. These parts were assembled in different areas and hung onto feeder lines that took the parts in sequence to the main assembly line. The worker that installed the parts could look at the build sheets on the car and parts to verify the the parts he was installing were the correct ones for that car, they were supposed to be removed and thrown in trash, but to save time that seldom happened.

I did not know that, thanks for the information!!! One more question, is there any database at Chrysler that would hold this information, or has all that info probably been purged long ago?

 

[Montclaire]

I would only get a repop tag if you still had the original but it was in poor shape. OR if you were worried about the original being stolen on a high dollar car.

There is a reason why the survivors bring what they bring.

 

[69hemibeep]

Personally I would get one made up that reads (MIA do to car theft) to kick off a conversation about it. If you must have a repop get ahold of Marti reports in El Mirage AZ. Yes he is a Ford guy but does Chrysler tags. Again he will ask what and where the info goes so it will be easy to see it's not original

 

[Montclaire]

I do like this one

 

[Bart K]

I do like this one

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That would be a good one if that were the case. You all have given me plenty to think about!

 

[ga66mopar]

If I wanted to replace a lost fender tag I would buy one and put it on the car. The only person you should tell is the person you sell it to.

 

[steve340]

If I could find the broadcast sheet I would reproduce the fender tag.
If not why worry whoever you sell to buys what they see in front of them.

 

[beanhead]

I really wish I wouldn't have lost mine... Nobody will ever believe my car came from the factory with white paint, green interior and the 318/904/8.75 drivetrain

 

[moparnation74]

If not why worry whoever you sell to buys what they see in front of them.

This is why they shouldn't be reproduced.......