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Steering column fitment

Primodude

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I’m looking at changing out my stock automatic steering column on my 69 super bee for a stock 4 speed 69 Roadrunner column I came across. Does anyone know if I will have any fitment issues or if it should just bolt right up? Neither car have power brakes or power steering.
 
As long as both cars have power steering, no problem. The power steering center-shaft is shorter than a manual steering column, but otherwise the columns are identical
 
I have a 1969 Road Runner and I am getting ready to reinstall the column. I am running into a problem with the length of the column as it seems to be to short BUT I did remove it, restore it and now ???????? Can anyone confirm if what the actual length(s) of the manual steering column is?

Would someone also comment as to the possibility that the steering column has "collapsed" and what the potential fix may be? The car doesn't show any frame damage or repairs.

Help !!!!!
 
TseTse Runner said:
I have a 1969 Road Runner and I am getting ready to reinstall the column. I am running into a problem with the length of the column as it seems to be to short BUT I did remove it, restore it and now ???????? Can anyone confirm if what the actual length(s) of the manual steering column is?

Would someone also comment as to the possibility that the steering column has "collapsed" and what the potential fix may be? The car doesn't show any frame damage or repairs.

Help !!!!!
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Did you happen to drop it shaft down onto the floor and collapse the inner two piece shaft? Even if you didn't most find the plastic shear pins gone after 50 years of people beating on the steering wheel.
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Thanks for your response.

I did not drop the column on the floor however I was using a deadblow hammer to try and set the connector further onto the steering box / gear box.

I will check.

Ps. no plastic on the floor either.
 
You must have compressed it. Have you checked to see if you damaged the coupler joint. Have you tired to pull it back towards the inside of the car. What dose not line up.
 
The steering shaft / main coupler was lined up correctly with the splines on the steering gear box. The coupler on the steering column shaft came apart when I removed it and it is now lying on the floor of the car. The coupler is only held together with the metal pressed piece however in doing some recent research I see that the kits you buy to rebuild the coupler include a wire framework which retains both ends of the main coupler.

Comments??
 
Yes they do make that part. But if you put it together the end cap tab's bend over to hole it together. I did not get that part. My shaft had some play in it when installing the column. It will slide a little. Where the retainer spring is that is where the bearing went in to the column Dose it not seem to line up with your bolts under dash. Their is a U tube video on rebuilding these. It is help full. Don't forget about the two bolts on both sides that hold the upper column cover under steering wheel. I had an awful time with them. In the second picture you see the spring that could be holing you from extending the tube. It is strong. Takes force to move them. Good luck you will figure it out I am sure.
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Thanks "blue69runner" !!

I recognize many of the pieces you are showing however I have not taken the column apart far enough to get to the 'spring' you mention / show. Is it located in the upper half of the column??

Is it very difficult; i.e. do I need a press to put a replacement bearing back in or use a puller to disassemble the column??

Thank you for the vote of encouragement as this is my very first car to restore.

I look forward to your next communication.

John.
 
dadsbee said:
Did you happen to drop it shaft down onto the floor and collapse the inner two piece shaft? Even if you didn't most find the plastic shear pins gone after 50 years of people beating on the steering wheel.
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I notice that this 'joint' where the plastic pins are is part way along the main shaft of the steering column. Is the joint in the upper half of the column? Are specialty tools required to remove and reinstall the bearings and if you are going to recreate the plastic pins would it be advisable to replace all the bearings too??
 
I am so very thankful for the details. Your link will be invaluable !!

I have already started reading and will be re-reading and re-reading and then some.

I did 'in my travels' come across a b-body link which indicated that if the plastic pins have deteriorated and the steering column has collapsed that you can "reinstall" the pins using "Pematex" plastic welder and a syringe.

Comments ??
 
TseTse Runner said:
I did 'in my travels' come across a b-body link which indicated that if the plastic pins have deteriorated and the steering column has collapsed that you can "reinstall" the pins using "Pematex" plastic welder and a syringe.

Comments ??
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What comment would you like, that's my post! :)
 
Bearing puller for the top bearing. Bottom bearing is a plastic bushing. Been a while since I did mine. Like I said their are U tube video's on the process. Plus manuals are around. Check the forum dadsbee posted also. It is not that hard. One thing to do is take pictures and more pictures it help's. Love Chiltons manuals it say reassemble as disassemble.
 
To 'dadsbee' and 'blue69runner'.

I'm glad to have referenced one of your threads in my thread.

Both of you make your comments so clear. I WILL continue to read and re-read both your instructions and review the pictures you have made available.

Because of your comments I now have a much better idea of what I'm facing.

I will take lots of photos and keep my laptop handy as I restore this steering wheel.

I'll also make a point to keep you posted as I go and if I need clarification I will try to send a photo with my question.

God Bless You both for your willingness to share your knowledge and experience. Priceless !!
 
Rebuilding my steering column now, and found the pins sheared. Unlike Dadsbee, my St Louis built 69 did not have 'through pins" in the steering shaft. Instead the inner shaft has upper and lower grooves around it that line up with the pin holes. The hot melt was poured in and surrounded the shaft filling the in/out holes holding the shaft in place......at least for a while.
 
Different parts suppliers I guess, I've seen that on a '69 Barracuda column that was being restored as well.
 
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