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Throttle cable question.

I’m running aluminum heads, so I really don’t think I’ll have an issue because they don’t have the heat crossover. But better safe than sorry imho
Yeah, alloy heads don't have the crossover.....does the intake? It really doesn't matter since the heads do not. And reversion shouldn't be an issue....unless the cam has a lot of overlap and/or the exhaust system creates back pressure.
 
Yeah, alloy heads don't have the crossover.....does the intake? It really doesn't matter since the heads do not. And reversion shouldn't be an issue....unless the cam has a lot of overlap and/or the exhaust system creates back pressure.
The intake does. Oh it has a real nasty cam….not really it’s just a factory 350hp Chrysler Newport 440, all stock except a little weight reduction :lol:
 
The intake does. Oh it has a real nasty cam….not really it’s just a factory 350hp Chrysler Newport 440, all stock except a little weight reduction :lol:
I've seen stock engines with reversion problems before. Never looked into it much but it could have been a stuck heat riser or a restrictive exhaust system. I've heard lots of old timers (I'm one of them now) say some back pressure is good. Not me! 0 back pressure and some negative is better! Funny how some still think that way.....
 
OK, Just curious. I have been running AVS and AFB carbs, as well as one Edelbrock since the 1970s. I have never had a problem with fuel boiling.
Speaking just for myself, I first started running a small spacer to get clearance for the secondary linkage (on a stock
440 manifold), which the choke stove interfered with unless you raised up the carb a bit.
I noticed eventually a by-product of that was that the car actually liked the spacer being on there, especially in
the heat of summer.
 
Aluminum dissipates heat faster but both will eventually heat up to operating temps and won't vary much if at all from each other. And yeah, I would like to know why an OEM carb could handle the heat better than the Eddy carb too and with that said, I've never experienced percolation with any carb. Now I have had fuel vaporize once the engine was shut off because of under hood heat.....is that what Bob is talking about?
Aluminum conducts heat faster than iron does due to the density, but the net result is the same, over time. What is the difference in the casting alloy between origional Carter AVS and the Edelbrock (Weber or whoever does the raw castings).....I don't know but I'm sure its a proprietary blend....at least that's what they want you to believe....but its probably not the common 380-Z diecast alloy. Perhaps its the dimensions of the internal drilled passageways that may effect the percolation issues. The Reid Vapor Pressure (a measure of the volitility index or evaporation index) of the fuel blend (% of ethanol in blend) is an additional consideration.
My comment to C.S.G, was about the overall thickness of the spacer sandwich and the overall effect of the fuel mixture velocity. Does the spacer sandwich result in an "open plenum" under the carb? If it does, this will result in a mixture velocity drop, or decrease, due to the expansion factor related to the sudden change in area. This usually results in poor part throttle response and mixture distribution until the RPM builds to re-establish the velocity speed. Long duration/high lift cams with more overlap, tend to aggravate mixture velocity at low RPM and the open plenum contributes.
If he needed or wanted more carb isolation, why not consider a tunnel ram manifold ?
My intent was to provide a little educational information. Wether he chooses to believe the info, or not, is totally up to him.....I really don't care......
BOB RENTON
 
I always run a 1/4" spacer on my motors. Tried it with and without on the dyno. The 1/4" made 7 and 8 more hp on the 2 engines we experimented on.
 
Aluminum conducts heat faster than iron does due to the density, but the net result is the same, over time. What is the difference in the casting alloy between origional Carter AVS and the Edelbrock (Weber or whoever does the raw castings).....I don't know but I'm sure its a proprietary blend....at least that's what they want you to believe....but its probably not the common 380-Z diecast alloy. Perhaps its the dimensions of the internal drilled passageways that may effect the percolation issues. The Reid Vapor Pressure (a measure of the volitility index or evaporation index) of the fuel blend (% of ethanol in blend) is an additional consideration.
My comment to C.S.G, was about the overall thickness of the spacer sandwich and the overall effect of the fuel mixture velocity. Does the spacer sandwich result in an "open plenum" under the carb? If it does, this will result in a mixture velocity drop, or decrease, due to the expansion factor related to the sudden change in area. This usually results in poor part throttle response and mixture distribution until the RPM builds to re-establish the velocity speed. Long duration/high lift cams with more overlap, tend to aggravate mixture velocity at low RPM and the open plenum contributes.
If he needed or wanted more carb isolation, why not consider a tunnel ram manifold ?
My intent was to provide a little educational information. Wether he chooses to believe the info, or not, is totally up to him.....I really don't care......
BOB RENTON
You don’t make any sense, if I want to put a small spacer, I might as well put a tunnel ram on it?

Ok under that logic, should I also back half the car, put slicks on it, and cage it?
 
Ok under that logic, should I also back half the car, put slicks on it, and cage it?
No.
Not gonna argue, but this guy (renton) is borderline troll, baiting you to have a different opinion.
And don't believe the "I don't really care" part lol.
 
No.
Not gonna argue, but this guy (renton) is borderline troll, baiting you to have a different opinion.
And don't believe the "I don't really care" part lol.
Hey, the guy is an engineer and well, if you've never dealt with them it's how most of them are LOL. Cut him some slack....he's much better than he was some years back.....
 
Well look what happens when you have the correct parts, thank you everyone for helping!

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Well damn, plopped it on, turned the idle mixture screws out 2 turns as a baseline, didn’t touch the idle screw. I have an electric fuel pump, so I filled the bowl, gave it a pump, bumped the key, it fired up and idled!

Throttle went wide open, then shut. So this thread is done. Thanks for all the help guys, and any future readers, enjoy!

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Unfortunately I was a little premature on my excitement of my AFR, it idles rich, I need to work on that. But that’s for another thread.
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