TITLE/VIN TAG

[The Jester]

Sorry everyone just very frustrated!!! Not trying to skirt the law. Hell my wife's a cop and she can't figure it out. They didn't tell me about a bonded title but I looked it up this morning. Maybe I'll go that way. First and last time I buy something with no title!!!!

 

[YY1]

This thread caused me to look up the title service in GA listed a few posts above-

No info found.

...and then to look up one in FL I had talked to a few years ago.

Guess what?

They JUST started doing bonded titles in FL.

YAY!!!!!

 

[toolmanmike]

This thread caused me to look up the title service in GA listed a few posts above-

No info found.

...and then to look up one in FL I had talked to a few years ago.

Guess what?

They JUST started doing bonded titles in FL.

YAY!!!!!

We have bonded titles here in Iowa as well. It takes a bit of time to make it happen but the process does work.

 

[68BabyBlue]

Always always always title or register a car in your name before piling crap loads into it! Lesson learned and I feel your pain.

And I might add, don't lose the paperwork during the process. Twenty years ago I sold a partially restored Chrysler 300F with a clear Indiana title to a set designer in Hollywood. He poured big money into final paint and chrome restoration. He hadn't bothered to register the car in his name, and in the meantime lost the title I'd signed over to him. When I got a phone call squealing that "we" had a big problem, I quickly informed him, that no, he was the one with the problem. Told him it was his lucky day, because I'm an attorney, and didn't want to make life difficult, if he would just start talking nice to me.

I got him to pay a modest fee for an Indiana power of attorney, and had a friend execute a duplicate title transfer. I'd been wired funds for the car over a year ago, so he got off easy.

 

[69a100]

Good thing comments aren't allowed on sale and wanted threads!

You'd think that with all this commentary and this guy wanting to do illegal activity as well as the seller of said item. I'm surprised that this is ad still on the board. Do you guys really enforce the standard, if there really is one?

 

[toolmanmike]

You'd think that with all this commentary and this guy wanting to do illegal activity as well as the seller of said item. I'm surprised that this is ad still on the board. Do you guys really enforce the standard, if there really is one?

Me too. It is more of a teaching moment. Lot of information about getting proxy and bonded titles in different states. What do you think @Cranky ?

 

[Cranky]

Me too. It is more of a teaching moment. Lot of information about getting proxy and bonded titles in different states. What do you think @Cranky ?

Been a lot of years since I tried to get a title to a car and the laws here might be different now but after estimating what it was going to take to restore a low optioned car with a 318 in it, I decided to let it go. The car was a 67 Belvedere ragtop that I was about to walk away from because of the amount of work it needed but my wife at the time talked me into getting it. Only took a 300 dollar hit on it a year later but that was the last time to listen to my wife about buying stuff like that. Maybe that's one of the 'many' reasons she left!

 

[70chall440]

While I completely agree that what the OP was suggesting is illegal, I get the impression that he basically knew that but felt he had no other option and was posting here out of complete frustration. The is a far different situation than someone who is trying to rebody a car for profit as has been known to happen.

Like most forums there is a lot of moral high horse riding here, but I would be willing to bet that many here would contemplate the same course of action if placed in the same situation. I am not saying they would go through with it, but I am betting they would think about it, I know that I would consider it at least for a moment if I had a car I have labored over, put a lot of money into and then could not get a title for.

I agree that you should always transfer the title from the onset, but many don't (me included), so I guess some of us like to live on the wild side and sometimes it doesn't work out as you expected it to, then you have to figure out how to deal with it.

I don't think the OP is a malicious criminal rather someone who was at his wits end and came here hoping someone would talk him off the ledge and offer some solutions (which many did). The all caps thing was his way of expressing how upset he was.

Of course it would not be a forum without those who immediately want to ban, pull down, and generally banish the OP for even suggesting what he did. This is the same crowd who go bat **** crazy when someone suggests getting a fender tag made.

I don't know if Joey has seen this thread or not, but if he has and has decided to leave it up, I applaud him (or whomever) because this is America and at least right now we still have the 1st Amendment. If the OP was actively attempting to rebody a car for criminal purposes then sure, pull it but in this case it is not that black and white and this thread may serve to education not only the OP but others as well.

 

[Cranky]

While I completely agree that what the OP was suggesting is illegal, I get the impression that he basically knew that but felt he had no other option and was posting here out of complete frustration. The is a far different situation than someone who is trying to rebody a car for profit as has been known to happen.

Like most forums there is a lot of moral high horse riding here, but I would be willing to bet that many here would contemplate the same course of action if placed in the same situation. I am not saying they would go through with it, but I am betting they would think about it, I know that I would consider it at least for a moment if I had a car I have labored over, put a lot of money into and then could not get a title for.

I agree that you should always transfer the title from the onset, but many don't (me included), so I guess some of us like to live on the wild side and sometimes it doesn't work out as you expected it to, then you have to figure out how to deal with it.

I don't think the OP is a malicious criminal rather someone who was at his wits end and came here hoping someone would talk him off the ledge and offer some solutions (which many did). The all caps thing was his way of expressing how upset he was.

Of course it would not be a forum without those who immediately want to ban, pull down, and generally banish the OP for even suggesting what he did. This is the same crowd who go bat **** crazy when someone suggests getting a fender tag made.

I don't know if Joey has seen this thread or not, but if he has and has decided to leave it up, I applaud him (or whomever) because this is America and at least right now we still have the 1st Amendment. If the OP was actively attempting to rebody a car for criminal purposes then sure, pull it but in this case it is not that black and white and this thread may serve to education not only the OP but others as well.

Years ago Texas wouldn't let you apply for a new title at the time of purchase without doing a registration too and that included showing proof of insurance. Now you even have to get the car safety inspected. Well, the state FINALLY will let you apply for a title in your name without having to register it for use and you don't need proof of insurance and inspection. I think they did that a few years before needing inspection/insurance if the car wasn't going to be registered for use so there's no excuse for not applying for title anymore....

 

[70chall440]

Here is WA state, if you have a title you can pretty much register it, however if you do not have a title it is a goat rope but it can be done.

I guess my point is this, people come to these forums to get information, learn, ask advice, etc. too many times people just jump up their backside and flip crap at them which isn't overly helpful. How many times have you seen someone ask a question the first response they get is "get a FSM"... while they should get a FSM (or may even have one), generally they are just looking for some information from someone who knows what they are going through.

 

[BeepBeepRR]

This thread caused me to look up the title service in GA listed a few posts above-

No info found.

...and then to look up one in FL I had talked to a few years ago.

Guess what?

They JUST started doing bonded titles in FL.

YAY!!!!!

Google is your friend.

https://dor.georgia.gov/bonded-vehicle-title

However This only applies to 1985 and newer cars. So Hell I'm wrong there. However a bill of sale is a legitimate document here.

And to add on another page I found this info.

Title Not Required or Optional Titles
Titles Not Required

• 1962 or older year model vehicles
• Agricultural, horticultural or livestock raising equipment or vehicles not required to be registered
• Airplanes or aircraft
• All terrain and off-road vehicles
• Boat trailers
• Boats or watercraft
• Buses owned and operated by an urban transit system
• Cable cars and Trolleys
• Cranes
• Driver education vehicles used in public or private schools
• Fifth wheels
• Homemade car/tow dollies
• Homemade trailers
• Invalid tricycles
• Mopeds
• Nonresidents’ vehicles (vehicles owned by people that do not have a Georgia address)
• Pole trailers
• Self-propelled wheelchairs
• Tow dollies (car) weighing 2,000 pounds or less
• Trailers weighing 2,000 pounds or less
• Vehicles not manufactured for highway use

Titles Optional
You can title a 1963-1985 year model vehicle if:

• You have a title issued in your name;
• The owner on the front of the title has assigned the title to you;
• The owner on the front of the title has assigned the title to a dealer and the dealer has assigned the title to you.

You cannot title a 1963-1985 year model vehicle if:

• The vehicle has been registered in someone else’s name(s) other than the owner(s) shown on the face of the Georgia title.

So with the lower portion of this you can get a title for a 63 and up car here in Georgia. So Maybe I was wrong about a bonded title. But it says here you can get a title for those year cars.But it looks like in the cases listed that there is a title to begin with.

 

[The Jester]

There should be a way to do it. Ive done it in Nevada. The DMV is no help they dont know their own rules. Call your local court house and see what they say. In Nevada basically you put together your case as in evidence showing the car is yours and not stolen. Pictures, signed bill of sale, statement from previous owner selling it to you, statement saying it was abandoned, how long youve had it. Record of attempts to contact last titled owner. Judge looks at it makes a decision and you get the title.

Ive even gone to the DMV with a court order and the teller was like sorry thats not a valid document. Lets just say the manager wacked that person on the head and I got my title.

Thanks for the info. I will attempt to go thru the court house. Seems no one read my appoligy.

 

[The Jester]

One more time I'M SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!! Will certainly be careful of my questions in the future. I'm not stupid I know it not the proper way to go about it. Hope everyone enjoyed trolling me.... Thanks to those for the good advice!!!!!!!!

 

[BeatersRus]

Thanks for the info. I will attempt to go thru the court house. Seems no one read my appoligy.

read post 49 he actually says it quite well and i agree with him completely.
good luck with your title.

 

[70chall440]

One more time I'M SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!! Will certainly be careful of my questions in the future. I'm not stupid I know it not the proper way to go about it. Hope everyone enjoyed trolling me.... Thanks to those for the good advice!!!!!!!!

Good luck, if the car is worth saving, the effort is worthwhile. Stay at it and you will get it done.

 

[The Jester]

Here is WA state, if you have a title you can pretty much register it, however if you do not have a title it is a goat rope but it can be done.

I guess my point is this, people come to these forums to get information, learn, ask advice, etc. too many times people just jump up their backside and flip crap at them which isn't overly helpful. How many times have you seen someone ask a question the first response they get is "get a FSM"... while they should get a FSM (or may even have one), generally they are just looking for some information from someone who knows what they are going through.

Thank you sir. No harm was intended. Funny thing is I bought the car from a guy in Washington. It still has Washington plates on it from 1976

 

[The Jester]

While I completely agree that what the OP was suggesting is illegal, I get the impression that he basically knew that but felt he had no other option and was posting here out of complete frustration. The is a far different situation than someone who is trying to rebody a car for profit as has been known to happen.

Like most forums there is a lot of moral high horse riding here, but I would be willing to bet that many here would contemplate the same course of action if placed in the same situation. I am not saying they would go through with it, but I am betting they would think about it, I know that I would consider it at least for a moment if I had a car I have labored over, put a lot of money into and then could not get a title for.

I agree that you should always transfer the title from the onset, but many don't (me included), so I guess some of us like to live on the wild side and sometimes it doesn't work out as you expected it to, then you have to figure out how to deal with it.

I don't think the OP is a malicious criminal rather someone who was at his wits end and came here hoping someone would talk him off the ledge and offer some solutions (which many did). The all caps thing was his way of expressing how upset he was.

Of course it would not be a forum without those who immediately want to ban, pull down, and generally banish the OP for even suggesting what he did. This is the same crowd who go bat **** crazy when someone suggests getting a fender tag made.

I don't know if Joey has seen this thread or not, but if he has and has decided to leave it up, I applaud him (or whomever) because this is America and at least right now we still have the 1st Amendment. If the OP was actively attempting to rebody a car for criminal purposes then sure, pull it but in this case it is not that black and white and this thread may serve to education not only the OP but others as well.

Thank you. With my wife being a police officer I don't think I would be trying anything illegal. Just frustrated. My own fault. Should have known better.

 

[747mopar]

Sorry everyone just very frustrated!!! Not trying to skirt the law. Hell my wife's a cop and she can't figure it out. They didn't tell me about a bonded title but I looked it up this morning. Maybe I'll go that way. First and last time I buy something with no title!!!!

I've been through the whole title battle myself, if I have one piece of advice I'd suggest skipping your local DMV's. Talking to my local DMV had me convinced I was screwed, 1 call to the State DMV office completely changed everything. Your local workers don't know the law, they're used to the everyday transfers, anything outside of that and they're worthless! Once I knew my options I proceeded and got my title.

 

[68BabyBlue]

I've been through the whole title battle myself, if I have one piece of advice I'd suggest skipping your local DMV's. Talking to my local DMV had me convinced I was screwed, 1 call to the State DMV office completely changed everything. Your local workers don't know the law, they're used to the everyday transfers, anything outside of that and they're worthless! Once I knew my options I proceeded and got my title.

In Pennsylvania, we have yet another option - privately owned tag and title services, an outgrowth of notaries public. The one I work with locally has been terrific over the years in making things happen smoothly when I purchased old cars out of state, including one from New York state with a registration card, but no title. Consulted with my agent first, told them the car had come from PA, originally. They ran the VIN, it was clean, got me a PA title with no problem. The local DMV in NY on the other hand, was indeed worthless. "Sorry sir, can't title anything that old. " I already knew the answer, but I couldn't resist asking.

 

[BeatersRus]

In Pennsylvania, we have yet another option - privately owned tag and title services, an outgrowth of notaries public. The one I work with locally has been terrific over the years in making things happen smoothly when I purchased old cars out of state, including one from New York state with a registration card, but no title. Consulted with my agent first, told them the car had come from PA, originally. They ran the VIN, it was clean, got me a PA title with no problem. The local DMV in NY on the other hand, was indeed worthless. "Sorry sir, can't title anything that old. " I already knew the answer, but I couldn't resist asking.

thats clearly wrong,and an odd thing for them to say.
when you turn in a registration or bill of sale for a 71 and older car,you get back a title.
in ny state.