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[moparedtn]

Hot shot?
Surely you are mistaken Ed...Shirley!
Hmmm,
Let me see if I can answer your question correctly and tactfully:
Perhaps that was (is) a bygone era?
What was hmm, relatively common then has become scarce now? (Rare)
Supply and demand?
And perhaps most important, "we covet what we used to have?"
Help me out a bit, as I must be missing the point....
Isn't this about the owner have the right to do what ever he/she wants to do to the car?
I am not sure anymore..
Back at ya!

Correct - sort of. Back then, "pedigree" cars were traded and sold like they weren't
anything special.
They were hacked to bits, modified to hell and back and destroyed at an alarming
rate - when there weren't that many made to begin with - and their values reflected such.
Nobody had any idea of what was to come back then - and the common belief was that
things would continue to get better and faster and even more special from the factories
in years to come....until it all stopped, that is.
This is why the special interest in these cars began barely a decade after they were built;
I can remember being in clubs like SIAC and NHOA in the early 80's, for example.
We knew even back then that we had witnessed an era that likely would never return.

In the last couple decades and certainly now, that's all magnified of course - pedigree cars are rarer, valuable and those found in original condition are ULTRA rare, with values to match.
Reasons? Nostalgia. History. Representative of the best of that era.
The reasons are numerous and complex, but the results show in what these cars sell
for and what people are willing to do to get one, not to mention the quality of the restorations being done to them.

They are special cars, worthy of the same respect and care that previously was reserved
for the antique and classic cars of the concourse type events, which themselves represent the best of their respective eras - and it takes a true steward to care for them, as much for future generations' benefit as for anything/anyone now.

There's plenty of room for those who want to customize, throw the whole Summit Racing catalog at a car and have a party doing so. Tons of room for those who love to build and race 60s/70s cars, too.
There's plenty of more pedestrian, non-pedigree cars to do that with, too - and that usually
winds up being the case because of the initial cost of the base car being so much less than
a pedigree car.

It's never been a question of anyone's "right to do whatever they want" with a pedigree
car; it's instead been a matter of what they responsibly should do if they're ever fortunate
enough to find themselves in a position to do so.
It's a free country.
We're also free to express our opinions - as I have now done, yet again.
I'm done doing so. Agree with me or not.
I ain't nobody.

 

[biomedtechguy]

Non-numbers drivetrain.
THAT made it a V-Code within my reach.
THAT gave me the clear conscience to do what I want to, but I have decided that the 3x 2 intake will always be, whether it costs ET, MPH, HP, or torque (although the 6bbl is one heck of a contender for a 50 year old intake) and even if it takes the form of a F&B DPI/EFI throttle body setup like a couple of Mopar guys have done, it's still a 3x 2 setup, and even wears the factory 6bbl air cleaner assembly.
What is one of the boldest symbols of an A12? "6BBL" and "Six Pack" emblazoned on the scoop. My car is the next rung down from an A12, and it's got as much original V-Code on it now as it had when I bought it, but over the years I've had it, and in however many years I will, it's performance is going to well represent what a V-Code/A12 can do.
The best representation of that in my opinion is a car like Bob K. Mr. Six Pack has. Real deal, original owner, numbers matching, and at the race track, a lot. I'd like to have the time and budget for a F.A.S.T. V-Code or A12, but I don't. What ALL of the racers in F.A.S.T. do is honorable and is the absolute epitome of representing the awesomeness of the beauty, style, and performance of the classic muscle car era, bar none.

 

[cosgig]

Non-numbers drivetrain.
THAT made it a V-Code within my reach.
THAT gave me the clear conscience to do what I want to, but I have decided that the 3x 2 intake will always be, whether it costs ET, MPH, HP, or torque (although the 6bbl is one heck of a contender for a 50 year old intake) and even if it takes the form of a F&B DPI/EFI throttle body setup like a couple of Mopar guys have done, it's still a 3x 2 setup, and even wears the factory 6bbl air cleaner assembly.
What is one of the boldest symbols of an A12? "6BBL" and "Six Pack" emblazoned on the scoop. My car is the next rung down from an A12, and it's got as much original V-Code on it now as it had when I bought it, but over the years I've had it, and in however many years I will, it's performance is going to well represent what a V-Code/A12 can do.
The best representation of that in my opinion is a car like Bob K. Mr. Six Pack has. Real deal, original owner, numbers matching, and at the race track, a lot. I'd like to have the time and budget for a F.A.S.T. V-Code or A12, but I don't. What ALL of the racers in F.A.S.T. do is honorable and is the absolute epitome of representing the awesomeness of the beauty, style, and performance of the classic muscle car era, bar none.

In an era where all you had was your engine-knew-ity, this is a time slip from my Dads V code convertible 70, at the Summernationals in August, 1970. This car was in “as delivered” condition, my Dad never so much as even turned a wrench on it. Something was afoot at the factory, as this car was “followed” down the line by an exec that my Dad knew, even if his version is a little stretched over the years. Dads big secret? Raise the torsion bars up as high as you could to get better weight distribution. He was runner-up in his class, and his time and mph reflect a great day at the races! Oh yea, the stickers were magnets, he was pretty proud of that too!

 

[biomedtechguy]

In an era where all you had was your engine-knew-ity, this is a time slip from my Dads V code convertible 70, at the Summernationals in August, 1970. This car was in “as delivered” condition, my Dad never so much as even turned a wrench on it. Something was afoot at the factory, as this car was “followed” down the line by an exec that my Dad knew, even if his version is a little stretched over the years. Dads big secret? Raise the torsion bars up as high as you could to get better weight distribution. He was runner-up in his class, and his time and mph reflect a great day at the races! Oh yea, the stickers were magnets, he was pretty proud of that too!

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Awesome man! Wow! 12.3 at 109
I'm going to find out soon what replacing some critical worn parts like leaf springs can do to improve performance. True, I won't know what difference just the springs alone made, because out of necessity and making the most out of a rare opportunity to get some work done, I got a LOT done, but still, I have so much stuff that's going to make a difference in a lot of ways, it's going to keep me busy learning, tweaking, tuning, and finding a whole new level of enjoyment out of a car I've had for 6 years.

 

[Ironbuilt]

I don't think the Hemi Dart stands a chance

I'll be down to pick it up next week. Hate that you have to put up with that.

 

[Ironbuilt]

My car left the dealership right here in NC and the purchaser proceeded to install wheel tubs and a roll cage. In 1963. A car is the owners to DO AS HE PLEASES!!! We don't have to agree with it, but that's what makes America great. Personally, I would never want an original, numbers matching "rare" Mopar. I like to make my cars mine, no matter what changes that may be. To each their own. Someday, I am going to take a ride in Steve's (biomed) bad *** Road Runner. I don't care if he install a slant 6, he's my friend and it's HIS car.

Okay, rant over. LOL

 

[biomedtechguy]

Someday, I am going to take a ride in Steve's (biomed) bad *** Road Runner.

And if I can get an "Oh ****!" or similar exclamation out of you, I'm going to be that much happier!