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We Bet F-150 Lightning's Range Is under 100 Miles when Towing at the Max

Could a person put a few small pin wheels with generators on the front bumper so you can listen to the radio with out sacrificing mileage ?
 
I was behind a EV at the stop light today in the left turn lane and only after the light turned green did he put on the turn signal... Seemed planned to me and I wondered if he was saving power??
 
I would love to see that POS with 10,000 behind it on the 10% of 14a from Cody to burgess junction in august.... only 98 miles,bet it would not make it, not even close.
 
I would like to see this test done in the middle of a northeast winter - temps in the mid to low teens.
 
joe smith said:
Hwy 80 through Wyoming,
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route 68 out of Lavale md to Morgantown wv , every time I go to Idaho elk hunting this is the worst section to pull the trailer on,or like mentioned unless you hit some bad winds. and where would you charge it once your miles from electricity for 2 weeks?
 
Beep!Beep! said:
route 68 out of Lavale md to Morgantown wv , every time I go to Idaho elk hunting this is the worst section to pull the trailer on,or like mentioned unless you hit some bad winds. and where would you charge it once your miles from electricity for 2 weeks?
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You could always carry in gas and a generator. But don't turn it on till after your done hunting.
 
joe smith said:
I was behind a EV at the stop light today in the left turn lane and only after the light turned green did he put on the turn signal... Seemed planned to me and I wondered if he was saving power??
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If I get stuck in the left turn lane at a long red light, I'll turn mine off too. Generally don't listen to the radio while driving anymore and really don't like listening to the blinker either. I mean, if ya don't know why I'm in the left lane.....:D
 
mopar 3 B said:
This could be why Biden now want charging stations at 50 hwy mile intervals. When will this waste of federal funds be put to rest?
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What a joke - with a trailer, have to stop at every other one to charge up. Hope they don’t day dream and cruise right on by that second one accidentally. That is if they have enough range to make the second one.
 
AR67GTX said:
What a joke - with a trailer, have to stop at every other one to charge up. Hope they don’t day dream and cruise right on by that second one accidentally. That is if they have enough range to make the second one.
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Remember, it will take at least an hour to charge it up even on a fast charger. I feel like someone thinks they know what's best for me, as in electric cars, but they really don't. This is a fantasy.
How does it reduce 'carbon emmisions'? Strip mining ever dwindling supplies of lithium with giant diesel equipment with no emission controls on them, battery plants being run by coal fired power plants which consume enormous amounts of energy and toxic chemicals to manufacture, and a 150 yo electrical grid that already has brown outs and has doubled in price.
 
Richard Cranium said:

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Ford promises EPA ratings of 230 and 300 miles, but towing and hauling near the claimed 10,000-pound maximum is going to seriously cut into those figures.​

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  • Ford estimates that range for the 2022 F-150 Lightning electric pickup will be 230 miles for trucks with the standard battery and 300 miles on trucks with the extended-range pack.
  • The truck uses height sensors at each corner to estimate payload and adjust range predictions accordingly.
  • However, we estimate that towing anywhere near the Lightning's stated 10,000-pound maximum tow rating will lead to highway range in the double digits.
Range typically occupies an outsized chunk of the conversation on any new EV. But, in the case of the F-150 Lightning, which has the bestselling pickup's usual healthy scoop of towing and hauling capabilities, things get even more complicated than normal.
Ford is claiming that the range figures for its electric pickup will come in at 230 miles and 300 miles, depending on whether the standard-range (which we estimate can hold 115.0 kWh) or extended-range battery pack (150.0 kWh, same caveat) is beneath the bed. Those are EPA predictions, specifically EPA combined figures, in lightly loaded conditions.

Although the Lightning is aided by the aerodynamic effects of its flat underbody, when running at real highway speeds there's no tricking the air molecules, and a bluff truck is going to suffer. In our highway range testing, which we conduct at a steady 75 mph, we typically see a range number that's about 20 percent below the EPA figure. Using that same bogey, which is probably generous in the case of a full-size pickup, would put the Lightning in the 180-to-240-mile zone for what you might achieve on a road trip.
In a recent towing test with another EV, lugging a 3859-pound boat at 70 mph chopped its range in half compared to a run at the same speed sans trailer. Applying these results to the F-150 means that towing a modest trailer would put the highway range at roughly 100 to 125 miles, depending on the pack. Towing anywhere near the 10,000-pound maximum rating on XLT and Lariat models (with the maximum trailer tow package and extended-range battery) at highway speeds, we believe you'd be hard pressed to exceed double-digit miles. We'd take that bet, in fact.
Utilizing the Lightning's payload capabilities, which are 1800 pounds for the extended-range battery and 2000 pounds for the smaller pack will put you somewhere between these two extremes. And those figures both include the up-to-400 pounds that can be stowed in the large and handy front trunk.
At least there's some smart technology to help adjust the range prediction shown to the driver in day-to-day use. As launched on the 2021 F-150, the Lightning uses a height sensor at each corner to estimate the load in the bed or on the trailer hitch and preemptively adjusts down the range predictions accordingly.
The old adage "your mileage may vary" is very apropos when discussing EVs. And the F-150 Lightning's, because of its tough-truck capabilities, will vary more than most.
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While it's yet too early for long ranges while towing, there is an upside - during a power outage, a F-150 Lightning truck can power your whole house for about three days. People in Texas during the Feb. 2021 blackout who had a F-150 powerboost hybrid were able to keep their fridges and appliances plugged in.
 
And then after 3 days your in the dark, in the cold and your vehicle is dead to so you can’t leave. But you’re saving the world from itself. :rofl:
 
Photon440 said:
While it's yet too early for long ranges while towing, there is an upside - during a power outage, a F-150 Lightning truck can power your whole house for about three days. People in Texas during the Feb. 2021 blackout who had a F-150 powerboost hybrid were able to keep their fridges and appliances plugged in.
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Hybrid or BEV? Lightning isn't a hybrid, it's all electric. Doubtful it could power an entire house for 3 days since the battery is 400V DC and has to invert to 220 or 110 AC. The transition losses would be immense and produce a lot of heat.
 
Nxcoupe said:
Hybrid or BEV? Lightning isn't a hybrid, it's all electric. Doubtful it could power an entire house for 3 days since the battery is 400V DC and has to invert to 220 or 110 AC. The transition losses would be immense and produce a lot of heat.
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I know the Lightning isn't a hybrid, I said F-150 Powerboost.

www.motortrend.com

Texans Are Using Ford F-150 Hybrids to Power Their Frigid Homes During Winter Storm

The pickups' onboard power supplies are keeping Texans warm.
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Some Texans use 2021 Ford F-150 hybrid pickup trucks to power homes amid winter storm

"It would have been three miserable days without the truck," Jerry Hall, 73, of Kerrville, Texas, said in a phone interview.
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As for the true electric powering a house, I guess it depends on whether it's a large mansion or not. :)
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How the Ford F-150 Lightning Can Power Your Whole House

A partnership with Sunrun allows a 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning to directly power an entire house through its charging cord.
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AR67GTX said:
And then after 3 days your in the dark, in the cold and your vehicle is dead to so you can’t leave. But you’re saving the world from itself. :rofl:
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I guess you'd have to be happy that you had power for three more days than your neighbour. If the entire city is blacked out, gas stations might also not be pumping gas. But if it's localized to just a few blocks around your house, there is no reason that you can't toodle off to another charging station before you run out, and then come back fully charged to keep the house lit up.
 
In the ice storm in 07 I ran my house on a 12,000 watt generator, unless we wanted a hot shower. Had to shut off pretty much everything to run hot water tank.
 
Last year one of the guys at work found out that taking a Tesla to Wyoming and back it was cheaper to drive a 3/4 ton diesel pulling a trailer
Green bullshit
 
Photon440 said:
I know the Lightning isn't a hybrid, I said F-150 Powerboost.

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As for the true electric powering a house, I guess it depends on whether it's a large mansion or not. :)
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I know the capabilities of these batteries. I know how the system works inside and out. It was probably a brand new truck with low miles and a battery with 100% charge. That truck probably has a battery 3 times the size of a bev car. Maybe larger. So when it dies, and it will, if it's not under warranty or they can show neglect, it'll be 30k for a new one.
I see this crap from the other side, you will never convince me of this being a good idea or it being the'next phase', it's just not. If everyone who voted for the powers that be bought one of these things, there would be about 200 million who don't. They will be a novelty as people buy them and realize the limitations and pay the road taxes at the end of the year, the uniqueness will wear off. This will represent 20% of production at best, make any more and they'll sit on the lots. Jmho.
 
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