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What is your timing curve?

RJRENTON said:
Perhaps the Moderators should conduct a class in HOW TO USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION by subject.
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We've tried, members have tried....seems like everyone needs to start their own thread to get answers.

I know @dadsbee is one who lets people know there is a search function here....but do the people listen???

Preaching to the choir Bob. :rolleyes:
 
RJRENTON said:
This question had been asked and answered at least 250 times, on this site alone yet, as well as the FABO & FCBO sites ....almost as many times as: which spsrk plugs are best, which cam is best for my _______ (fill in the blank) engine, which carb is best: Holley, Carter oem, Edelbrock (Eddie), EFI, fuel pressure, oil, wax, radio station, beer consumed, air in the tires, coolant, etc. Perhaps the Moderators should conduct a class in HOW TO USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION by subject....it seems it's just easier to keep on asking the same question rather than searching the data base for the answer or subject Sooner or later the FBBO servers will explode from overload. Just my opinion of course.....(now comes the barrage of insults and expletives.....).
BOB RENTON
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You may be right Bob, but sometimes someone with a lot of experience has something new to add to any particular conversation - gets people thinking on a different level perhaps. Also, as time progresses, there are new products and upgraded technologies which advance our knowledge. Another thing to consider is that not all of us are internet literate - I'm betting most who use this site were born in the 50's and 60's - some of us are still in an internet learning curve.
 
I tried using the search feature.
It is far from perfect. It often fails to bring up threads of mine even when I phrased the question in the same manner as the thread title.
I looked last night and found several threads that barely touched on the subject. To me, that isn't any help.
 
Kern Dog said:
I tried using the search feature.
It is far from perfect. It often fails to bring up threads of mine even when I phrased the question in the same manner as the thread title.
I looked last night and found several threads that barely touched on the subject. To me, that isn't any help.
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Lots of variables in the various engines and what works for one may not work so well for another. One thing I found out is that a low compression engine with a cam that does not build much cylinder pressure likes a lot of total and initial no matter if it's a small or large bore engine. Well, at least the ones I had that were like that wanted more....
 
I always found those Mr. Gasket springs far too light. I used to use two of the stock light springs. That and welding the slot to limit centrifugal advance and increase initial. I got my old distributor back after I sold the car, and it is going into my new engine build.
 
Kern Dog said:
I tried using the search feature.
It is far from perfect. It often fails to bring up threads of mine even when I phrased the question in the same manner as the thread title.
I looked last night and found several threads that barely touched on the subject. To me, that isn't any help.
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My OPINION......EXPERIMENT a little....try something, if successful...great...if not try something else.BUT DOCUMENT your changes....successful or not....do not be afraid to deviate from the norm......there are no hard and fast rules....too many variables involved......time of day, air density, barometer pressure, temperature, fuel quality, etc......just my opinion of course.....
BOB RENTON
 
I admit to knowing very little about the function of computers but it seems like after asking a question phrased multiple ways in the search function and still coming away with fragments of related information, starting a new thread made more sense.
When I have seen a member ask about any of the tech issues I have dealt with, I try to steer them to a thread I started. That isn’t easy. I don’t understand how when I try a search, I can list what seems like key words along with clicking the box for “search titles only” and it still takes multiple efforts with extremely slight changes to be able to pull up what I need.
I wouldn’t have complained about it since it is quite good sometimes.
I admit that the ability to read an existing thread with a multitude of proven methods and helpful suggestions is better because it is everything all at once… as opposed to a new thread where info just trickles in.
 
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search is no fun........ how would threads ever devolve into debauchery? for lack of a better term :eek:

this place usually offers immediate answers, with constructive debate....... and some humor
 
eldubb440 said:
search is no fun........ how would threads ever devolve into debauchery? for lack of a better term :eek:

this place usually offers immediate answers, with constructive debate....... and some humor
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Perhaps the software needs a little intervention as in simplified.....Sort of like Google??? Just asking.....
BOB RENTON
 
Kern Dog said:
You know, I swear I used those exact words last night but got different results. I got nothing that had the words "timing curve" in the titles.
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Try different words....like DISTRIBUTOR ADVANCE CURVE. OR a graph of the distributor advance in degrees (Y axis) vs engine RPM (X axis), that way you'll see (visibly) the distributor advance curve. The steeper (slope of the line) the curve the faster the rate of advance or rate of change......a lot easier than looking at a column of numbers or trying to remember them.......the important factor is: DOCUMENTATION.......
BOB RENTON
 
Not sure why anybody would complain about a member asking. It’s traffic for the site, it’s how the site makes money. Don’t like it, don’t get involved in the thread.
 
I’ve found that engines like a certain amount of advance and pushing it will make them run choppy. My theory is when they get to where they don’t feel free to rev, it’s a silent knock. Maybe not enough to down it right away, or it’s so close to the edge it’s not worth it. The Mopar info with the 38 degrees suggestion has to be for when fuel was much better at the pump. I’ve found 34 to be the magic number with stock chambers. The rate of advance is a trial and error thing, just needs to accelerate smoothly.

Why on earth doesn’t MSD make the e curve for big blocks? I’ve considered a small block build just to get to play with one. Would be fun to experiment.
 
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