1964 Plymouth Savoy 413 Questions

[CoronetRTguy]

Hi all I have stumbled across another one I have questions on. I found a 1964 Plymouth Savoy 413 that is an ex Highway Patrol car.

This is a two door car that does have some rust, not sure where the rust is and I'm waiting to find out that info. I was told in the usual B body places but I'm not sure with this year of car where that would be.

Was the 413 of this year a Max Wedge or was there just a plain 413?

Tell me what I need to know about the 413 motor of this year. It is an auto push button car.

Also where would the data tag info be on the car? I know they didnt have fender tags, but was there a certi card on them?

Does anyone make good body panels and repair panels?

I guess just school me on this year and model of car. I'm going to pull out my MOPAR book that I have had since I was in high school (1993) and see what it says. I think the book is title Mighty Mopars.

Thanks everyone for the help and info you guys can give me. I learn so much each time I visit the site here and A and E body as well.

 

[Al K]

Interesting car;I would have expected a 383 in there. I thought only Chryslers used a 413 inch mill in '64;maybe L.E. cars had other options. Hmmm...engine transplant in its early life?

As far as rust,most common is the cowl area(usually driver's side) in the "step" into the underhood area. Lower front fenders are another trouble spot-and are tied in with the cowl issue.

Nothing special about the 413 that I'm aware of;seems that a 300 series Chrysler 413 would have made for a good pursuit engine in a B-body. Any codes on the engine pad to help with identification?

No fender tag? That's unusual,as any data should be found on the fender tag found under the hood. I'm sure someone here has Police Option codes to help you decipher this. Wasn't aware of that difference in the Police vehicles.

Good luck,but...we have a saying around here:

:worthless_thread:

Pics,our Mopar brother,PICS! I'm sure you've piqued the curiousity of the folks here,especially the '64 Plymouth crowd. Uh,like me.

 

[cascius]

 

[mattsmopars]

These cars are pretty common to rust the floor pans and trunck pans. AMD make full one piece floors and trunk pans for them. I think they also have lower rear quarters now or very soon anyway. I would want to make sure the cowl is solid in it as that is also a common rust spot for the early b bodies and not as easy to repair. Like was stated earlier it should also have a fender tag as well. My guess is the 413 has been added to the car as I don't think it was an optional engine in a 64 plymouth. I really love the 64-65 B bodies as they make great superstock cars.Good luck and keep us posted on how it goes.
Matt

 

[HT413]

I love the Savoys - pretty sure they're the lightest B body ever made. You can get them down well under 3000lbs in race trim with a small block.

In '64 they offered a 413, just not sure they offered it in that car that year. (The 413 was still used as a truck / RV / industrial motor until the 70's, so you need to look at the casting numbers.) The 426 was changed from Wedge to hemi that year, so no 426 wedge.

Also, look at the ID plate (same location as a 440 - front of the engine, driverside, almost in front of the driver side head.) I have a HT413 in my 69 Belvedere. H means 1972 (just count back from there) and the T means truck / RV / industrial. Same block, only with improved cooling ports and by then it had better bracing and thicker main supports. Also, truck motors almost all received a forged crank and some came with 6 pack rods and some had the 8 bolt hemi crank. Obviously the 6 pack hadn't been invented in '64, so it just depends on what year motor you have.

Another thing is the casting #'s - on mine they're located right on top of the motor, near the firewall, right near the bellhousing.

Here are some links to the Savoy and some engine ID info.

http://www.allpar.com/history/plymouth/1964.html

http://www.440source.com/blocks.htm
http://www.drivinithome.com/mopar-decoding/ (this is the new Year One info website)
http://www.cowtownmopars.com/CastingNumbers.html
http://www.440source.com/blockinfo.htm
http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Engine/identification.htm

Let us know what ya have,

Dan

 

[coloradodave]

HT413: A minor correction in the interest of accuracy; the 426 wedge was available in 64.

 

[HT413]

Oops, for some reason my brain farted. Hemi replaced the 426 wedge in 66. Thanks for the correction.

 

[mattsmopars]

The 426 hemi replaced the 426 maxwedge in the later part of 1964. First full year was in 1965 superstock dodge and plymouth cars. 1966 was the first year for the hemi in a production car. Also the 426 street wedge and the 426 max wedge were completly different engines.
Matt

 

[CoronetRTguy]

This car is an original 361 car. It does have the history to go with it of the car when it was a patrol car.

 

[64copcar]

I've got a 64 Dodge 330 Tennessee highway patrol car. Two door sedan car , if you run the vin it will tell you police or not. The fender tag may also lead to more police options.

 

[340Arrow]

64 Plymouth

I saw the ad on that car and thought that someone had put the 413 in it.
I had a 63 Highway patrol also from KS it had a motor marked 383HP. A guy in the KC area has a 67 highway patrol car and I beleive it also has a 383. As far as I know KS used 383s until they changed to the 440.

 

[383man]

Yes I would say someone installed the 413 as to my knowledge it was not a factory installed eng in the 64 Plymouth. I believe the 64 Plymouth had these engines:

six cylinder
318
361
426 street wedge
426 max wedge
426 hemi
Ron

 

[Centerline]

Yes I would say someone installed the 413 as to my knowledge it was not a factory installed eng in the 64 Plymouth. I believe the 64 Plymouth had these engines:

six cylinder
318
361
426 street wedge
426 max wedge
426 hemi
Ron

I beleve the 383 was available as well.

 

[fuely62]

The correct pecking order for engine lineup for 64 was ;
6 cly
318 v8
361 2 bbl
383 4 bbl
426 Street Wedge (4 bbl)
426 Max Wedge (2-4's)
426 Hemi (race)

 

[64copcar]

My 330 was a 383 -4bbl 3 speed.

 

[383man]

Yes I would say someone installed the 413 as to my knowledge it was not a factory installed eng in the 64 Plymouth. I believe the 64 Plymouth had these engines:

six cylinder
318
361
426 street wedge
426 max wedge
426 hemi
Ron

Sorry as I forgot the 383. Dont know how I did that ? Ron

 

[64maxwedge]

the engine in that car came out of a 64 Chrysler. It was a 361 car originally. you beat me to it!

 

[HT413]

Interesting hw 383man forgot the 383. Kinda like when you take a head count and forget yourself?

 

[65 Plymouth Satellite 426]

As Far As Police Applications Go For The '64 Model Enforcers, These Chryslers, Dodges And Plymouths Ran Two Versions Of The 413 Motor. A 340 And 360 Horse 413! No 426 Wedges Were Used In Police Applications!

 

[mancusomopar]

Ron they also had a 273 in 64/65 b bodies