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Good day all,
The same old what pistons for my 383 thread. Have a 68 383 and a set of eddy rpm performer 88cc heads. Not too sure on cam yet but would like around 10:1 compression. Really leaning towards the Keith Black 400 dome pistons but cant find anyone that has ran them. Suggestions? Thank you
 
I have a set of the KB hypereutectic piston in my 400 B engine
here is a good calculator
to figure compression ratio
figure what piston you need with the head, head gasket thickness you plan on running.
go with a domed piston only if you need to. i prefer going with a flat top piston over a domed if possible to try an eliminate hot spots that can be created from the edges of the dome. The hot spots can be a cause for pinging if your fuel is not up to the compression.
 
I have a set of the KB hypereutectic piston in my 400 B engine
here is a good calculator
to figure compression ratio
figure what piston you need with the head, head gasket thickness you plan on running.
go with a domed piston only if you need to. i prefer going with a flat top piston over a domed if possible to try an eliminate hot spots that can be created from the edges of the dome. The hot spots can be a cause for pinging if your fuel is not up to the compression.

Only problem with 88cc heads and flat tops is I would be in the 8.x:1 compression.
 
yes I noticed that after posting you didn't mention if this was a street engine or for the race track?

Aluminum heads tend to run cooler so the pinging may not be an issue.
I like to error on the safe side for street a engine.
If you already have the heads have you CC'd the chambers to verify the cc's?
 
yes I noticed that after posting you didn't mention if this was a street engine or for the race track?

Aluminum heads tend to run cooler so the pinging may not be an issue.
I like to error on the safe side for street a engine.
If you already have the heads have you CC'd the chambers to verify the cc's?

They are just out of the box eddy performer rpm 88cc heads. Its mostly a street car with the odd weekend at the track
 
I'm at 9.7:1 with those pistons with the Stealth heads. I have no issue with pinging with either 90 octane w/ ethanol or 88 octane without.
 
what it the chamber size of the stealth heads?
I am seeing 80 cc if they are these
 
Good day all,
The same old what pistons for my 383 thread. Have a 68 383 and a set of eddy rpm performer 88cc heads. Not too sure on cam yet but would like around 10:1 compression. Really leaning towards the Keith Black 400 dome pistons but cant find anyone that has ran them. Suggestions? Thank you

I take it you already have the 88cc heads? Because eddy make a 75cc head that would work well with the KB-162's and would have better flame travel and combustion.
 
I prefer going with a flat top piston over a domed if possible to try an eliminate hot spots that can be created from the edges of the dome.

What edges are on a dome, the valve relief cuts? You need to clarify this statement as it make's no sense what so ever!
 
What edges are on a dome, the valve relief cuts? You need to clarify this statement as it make's no sense what so ever!

sorry for you not understanding maybe this picture and side note will help

I am repeating what my machinist has told me if going with a pop up piston it might be best to spend the extra for a set of forged to handle any extra heat build. detonation may not be a problem but with the quality of pump gas could cause an issue.
 
There are allot of places to get pistons, allot of brands too

If your going for a flat-top piston with valve reliefs,
to keep it around 10:1 -10.5:1 so you can easily run pump gas, no worries,
I'd suggest to try to get a piston with as close to a zero deck
{flush with the top of the block} as you can,
it will aid in quench area/flame travel somewhat & to stay at about 0.040"
with a 0.040" thick {appr. 4.340" bore} in the compressed & torqued head-gasket,
it does depend on your current deck height,
whether the block has been squared &/or deck ever before,
most of the off the shelf replacement pistons are like 0.020" to 0.040" down in the cylinder,
8.8:1 or less compression with a 88cc chamber & 0.040" head gasket
you could have the heads & intake, shaved/machined &/or the block decked/machined
to compensate for too much down in the hole...

A "dome" style piston, much more important to have a specific shape dome/piston,
that needs to be specific for the combustion chamber style, size & shape, of the Eddy 88cc RPM heads
even with the larger intake & exhaust valves, specific valve reliefs, will generally need to be recut...

contact Mancini Racing they can help you,
here's an example
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/manciniracing6.html
they have a few different to choose from for a 383 with a std. 3.375" stroke
they have a few Diamond Racing forged pistons
ranging from 9.8:1 with stock length rod & 72cc combustion chambers
{with an 88cc chamber with the same pistons, it would be far less static compression, like 8.8:1}
up-to to like 11.1:1, depending on rod length, pin size, ring thickness & or bore size etc.
common sizes in like 4.280" {0.030" over} to 4.310" bores {0.060" over} 4.25" is std bore

Diamond, KB, ICON, Mahle, Wiesco, Venolia, Sealed Power, Speed Pro, Manley, JE, Probe, Ross etc. more too

lots to choose from,
almost any custom pin size, dome or deck heights are more money thou too,
depending on which rod length {stock 383 rod 6.358"(or 6.36") or 440/Hemi length 6.768"}
you ultimately end up choosing also,

Summit Racing
http://www.summitracing.com/search/...size/6-3l-383/engine-family/mopar-big-block-b
look under pistons

I guess it depends on your "actual" budget & how much your willing to pay for getting the right
type/style shape & size of piston & compression ratio combos...

quality properly fitted pistons aren't cheap !!

generally a compression distance/pin height
from IIRC like 1.868" service pistons {low comp.} to 1.908" to 1.920"
depending on company, material/style & whether it's with a std rod length etc.,
allot of variables here...

good luck, happy Moparing
 
domed pistons don't create hot spots. they impede flame travel if not properly designed resulting in power loss. my choice would be a small chamber like the e-street with a flat top. there isn't to my knowledge any shelf quench dome type piston for the 383/400, which the 88cc head needs.
 
Ever considered 426 max wedge pistons? Use to be available with much greater selection than 383 pistons. Same bore diameter same pin size. Just a thought.
 
domed pistons don't create hot spots. they impede flame travel if not properly designed resulting in power loss. my choice would be a small chamber like the e-street with a flat top. there isn't to my knowledge any shelf quench dome type piston for the 383/400, which the 88cc head needs.

426 w compression height is way too tall for 383
There should be shelf quench pistons 4 383 but problem getting proper compression for street
CC EVERY HEAD- both ends many are not as advertised and the factor head specs are for minimum cc "blueprinted" NHRA spec heads not factory
GET QUENCH flat tops of proper compression height (with a dish if necessary to get compression down) and closed chamber heads

IMHO foolish to build a 383 except for a matching number resto project
start with a 400 or 400 for better parts availability
that said
I've done several 440 rods and crank 383's for resto project- like a stick shift superbird get's you 426- custom pistons for a 383- kits available for 400's

CAMS
many chevy grinds with chrysler part numbers on them
That's like fighting with one hand behind your back
INSIST on a .904 lifter grind Engle, Howards, others have them but you have to ASK Comp has a few in their "purple shaft series"
a FEW have roller and hyd roller designed for the larger wheel available with the MOPAR sized lifter- cuts the side loading down
If roller or hyd roller insist on an (asymmetrical) inverse radius design
Mike Jones, Engle are the best at this
 
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