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Or the end of a pipe! Yikes
505 Stroker woes, comp lifter failure, hammered rockers
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What did the builder of the motor say?Or the end of a pipe! Yikes
Jung
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Hopeless! They did send a new set of Erson lifters but nothing so far to address the problem with the rockers and the crummy machine work on the piston. Nothing remotely resembling an apology, even though they admitted a lot of problems with Comp Lifters in their builds. They don't answer e-mails or phone calls. Supposed to be a highly regarded Mopar builder out of MI.
moper
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If the adjusters were all tight, but st different settings, things had problems that were not addressed. Nevermind the rockers (IQs right there). Or possible pushrod issues. Comp sells good product but every once in a while bad happens. But bad is one, not 16. 16 is a builder issue. Marks on piston without holding it it's hard to guess. They may be no big deal but it might be...
For sure the builder should be doing all they can for you.
For sure the builder should be doing all they can for you.
Garys1969RR
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Did you buy this motor new from the builder? Or did you get it thru a 3rd party? This kind of thing should never happen with a reputable builder. You know, we will need to steer clear of this company, if you care to reveal who it is.
Jung
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New from the builder - set up, broken in and dyno'd (I never got the dyno charts.) I've given them one more shot to agree some sort of remedy, after that I'll pull the motor and strip and document any other problems with it.
I really appreciate all the advice.
I really appreciate all the advice.
That is terrible! I really hate to see anyone going through this. If the original shop doesn't come through, have it looked at by a competent shop and go after damages from the first place. I'm guessing the motor wasn't cheap and I wouldn't trust them to put another wrench on it at this point.
moper
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The info as presented point me to assembly issues that were not fixed, or perhaps never uncovered. If that is indeed accurate it's more about taking responsibility either for the parts, the parts choices, or the execution and coming to a mutually satisfactory conclusion at this point.
not so famous bob
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they should be exposed !! who did that shoddy crap ?
Jung
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Regarding the adjusters. Quote from the builder - "The valve height can't be that far off. Since the pushrods are cut by hand that must be the difference."
So a pro builder can't make a set of pushrods the same length??? Blimey.
Ah well, he says he's going to send me a check to have it fixed locally. Hopefully that will be the end of it.
So a pro builder can't make a set of pushrods the same length??? Blimey.
Ah well, he says he's going to send me a check to have it fixed locally. Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Garys1969RR
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I find it hard to believe that they dyno'd this motor. I'm sure they would have noticed the valve train noise. Anything with that much wear on the valve train was surely making some racket! Do the flattened ends of the ball adjusters all look the same? Are they completely round from the factory? Or do they have a flat area ground in them when manufactured?
If you paid with a credit card it time to call the credit to file a dispute.
I'm no wedge guy looked two different sized balls on rockers? Looks like they pounded the piston with a hammer handle that had a piece of metal on it. Hate to see what else is inside.
I'm no wedge guy looked two different sized balls on rockers? Looks like they pounded the piston with a hammer handle that had a piece of metal on it. Hate to see what else is inside.
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not so famous bob
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or a ball peen !
doublekrossd
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What ez heads? The "lil" and "big" ez's require external shaft oiling. And I've never seen black Harland sharps either. Adjustable rockers with hydraulic lifters doesn't really jive with me either, too much variance.
Jung
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They're EZ1s. I'm pretty sure the rockers are Comp rather than Harland Sharp. I'm going to pull it sometime in the next couple of weeks and give it a strip down. Hopefully there won't be much else wrong with it. The very nice gents at IMM Engine in Indio have agreed to have a look.
mentor70
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feel free to hit me up if you need someone or help to re do your stuff.
I have run hydraulic lifters with my Comp Cams Magnum rockers for years without a problem. Careful adjustment is key. If it was a race car I would be running solids. Don't want the hassles of added maintenance on my street car. To each his own...
doublekrossd
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I'm not saying it wouldn't and doesn't work, I've actually done it as well. Just my opinion after thinking to much about it...
Not a problem. We all have opinions and one is as valid as another based on our own experiences...
Jung
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Bit of an epic (new kids will do that) but I ended up sorting things myself and finally fired it up last night - sounds smooth! A little more tweaking and it'll be time for a test drive. Ended up going with Harland Sharp rockers and new custom pushrods from Smith Bros (who incidentally are incredibly efficient.)
By the way, if anyone needs an RB fan clutch, just ask me - I have just about every iteration possible. Don't ask why....
By the way, if anyone needs an RB fan clutch, just ask me - I have just about every iteration possible. Don't ask why....
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