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Another bad electric car fire...

A bus doesn't need batteries to be electric. Vancouver has 262 electric busses, and they're not a recent thing. I was riding trolley busses in the 60's. They accelerate much quicker than the diesel versions.
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A bus doesn't need batteries to be electric. Vancouver has 262 electric busses, and they're not a recent thing. I was riding trolley busses in the 60's. They accelerate much quicker than the diesel versions.
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Yeah, but it's the batteries that are the issue.... Electric motors rarely combust... And if they are using miles travelled by trolley style vehicles in the stats as an electric vehicle they aren't being honest (surprise) in their reporting...
 
I don't know, do kids fly kites on major city streets where you live? We generally use parks and quieter areas. :)
In the nearby city where I used to work, they tied their tennis shoes together and tossed them up to hang from the overhead wires. I hear it was a way they marked the locations of their "pharmaceutical" businesses.
 
News today stated Ga. is about to received $51 million in federal grant money to set up battery powered school buses thru out the state....I don't know anyone thrilled to hear this. I bet other states are also having this crammed down on them.
I never really liked the idea of putting my kids on a school bus when they were little, 20-30 screaming kids and a bus driver trying to pay attention to the road always scared me. But now with the electric school buses you have to worry about it going up in flames even without an accident, whos getting all those kids off the bus in time?
 
Haha I like how this comment is like dusting some crap of your sleeve.
Just a slight understatement.
Just like people overstate the chance of an electric car catching fire. Granted, there are seven or eight electric cars catching fire per day, and many of them make news headlines somewhere so people can turn them into electric car fire memes. But there are also between 500-600 gas car fires each day, and most news agencies, unless it's local or shuts down a major tunnel, will ignore them.
 
Just like people overstate the chance of an electric car catching fire. Granted, there are seven or eight electric cars catching fire per day, and many of them make news headlines somewhere so people can turn them into electric car fire memes. But there are also between 500-600 gas car fires each day, and most news agencies, unless it's local or shuts down a major tunnel, will ignore them.
Where do you get your stats from? And I'm happy you like electric cars. Go buy a couple or three.
 
Just like people overstate the chance of an electric car catching fire. Granted, there are seven or eight electric cars catching fire per day, and many of them make news headlines somewhere so people can turn them into electric car fire memes. But there are also between 500-600 gas car fires each day, and most news agencies, unless it's local or shuts down a major tunnel, will ignore them.
Yup I agree, the volumes of fires is not the subject, it's the unextinquishable chemical lithium fires out of the batteries that we're talking about. Bad fkin news.
 
Gas fires and battery fires are not the same. Like comparing a nuclear plant with an oil refinery.

There very well may be 5-600 gas car fires a day right now and only 6 electric car fires. But that is just common sense and logical. There are millions to one of gas to electric.

Electric car fires are bad. They will become more common with increased amounts on the road. I don't want one near my residence when it goes up.
 
Gas fires and battery fires are not the same. Like comparing a nuclear plant with an oil refinery.

There very well may be 5-600 gas car fires a day right now and only 6 electric car fires. But that is just common sense and logical. There are millions to one of gas to electric.

Electric car fires are bad. They will become more common with increased amounts on the road. I don't want one near my residence when it goes up.
We had one about a half mile from my house... There was sirens for twenty plus minutes, the black smoke was insanely thick & the flames were probably twenty five feet tall.... They blocked the road for days, initially due to the fire, but then they to get a hazardous waste team to clean it up.. The soil on either side of the road had thousands of gallons of water run-off that was contaminated with lithium by-products.. They dug up the soil & brought in clean topsoil... Anything that's that toxic doesn't belong on the road...
 
That, I haven't looked at statistics for, you'll have to tell me. How many models of gas cars have electrically operated locks? A gasoline fire can incapacitate the wiring just as well:
Wow: Guy rips open door, pulls driver from burning car
 
Gas fires and battery fires are not the same. Like comparing a nuclear plant with an oil refinery.

There very well may be 5-600 gas car fires a day right now and only 6 electric car fires. But that is just common sense and logical. There are millions to one of gas to electric.

Electric car fires are bad. They will become more common with increased amounts on the road. I don't want one near my residence when it goes up.
I'm not sure if you properly understood the statistics in post #39.
 
I think that statistics are only as good as the data acquired.

Gas cars have been on the road for x decades, 1 century basically.
Electric cars have been on the roads for x years, not even measurable.

When they are the only thing on the road and they are the only thing getting accidents, they will be the only thing catching fire. The numbers will increase. It is inevitable. When they burn, they are a problem. It isn't that gas is easier to ignite. It is that batteries are harder to extinguish.

We have not got twenty "foreign" manufacturers yet either.

I cant dispute the 1530 to 25 / 100,000 numbers, but is a battery fire 61 times harder to fight?

I don't want one near my residence.
 
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That, I haven't looked at statistics for, you'll have to tell me. How many models of gas cars have electrically operated locks? A gasoline fire can incapacitate the wiring just as well:
Wow: Guy rips open door, pulls driver from burning car
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So, a car with electric door locks is not able to be manually unlocked from inside? I would think that should be illegal. I know all commercial buildings are code required to have panic bars or doors that can be manually pushed open from inside so people will not be trapped inside during a fire or other emergency. The older vehicles I have had with electric locks also had the manual buttons or rockers as well..
 
So, a car with electric door locks is not able to be manually unlocked from inside? I would think that should be illegal. I know all commercial buildings are code required to have panic bars or doors that can be manually pushed open from inside so people will not be trapped inside during a fire or other emergency. The older vehicles I have had with electric locks also had the manual buttons or rockers as well..
Modern cars with electric door locks I've had opened normally with a pull of the handle, even if locked
(and they are locked, since that's also automatic when the car starts moving).
These electric cars that don't have that feature befuddle me - why would they design it like that?

EDIT: It's because the doors don't unlatch via mechanical means, isn't it?
 
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