Another what cam thread

[Bigal75]

Get a decent solid lifter cam. I would contact a cam company and see what they recommend. So you have to set the valves...big deal.

 

[mopar 3 B]

Get a decent solid lifter cam. I would contact a cam company and see what they recommend. So you have to set the valves...big deal.

There are plenty of decent hydraulic cams out there that will more than suite his purposes without spending another grand or more on quality valve trane components.

 

[Challenger340]

Somebody asking about tried and proven "street" combo's" ?
We had the opportunity a couple of years ago, to go back and revisit some pretty basic "street" 440 builds for a resto shop who asked us.
Being primarily a Competition Engine Shop, we just don't get the chance very often ?.... well, and the money was right so we did a few of them.
All were basically the same,
* pump gas @ 10:1
* std NON-stroker 440 builds
* 'El cheapo Stealth Heads W/6 Hr prep for service, port matched Intakes
* stock ly Rods with ARP Bolts.
* All with Flat Tappet Hydraulic Cams
All were Dyno'd before they left(as we always do).... the only differences were Intake manifolds and Camshafts:
between on the low end a CompCams XE274H 496Hp and 530 Ft/Lbs.... with a 750 crfm and Eddy rpm
to the high end using a CompCams XE284H that pulled 545hp and 562 Ft/lbs with an 850 cfm and Street Dominator.

Cheap, quick and easy, and still pretty darn capable performers in this world of stroker "everything" these days ?

I posted everything over at DodgeCharger.com, Pics, Dyno Sheets, Specs, etc., etc., under a thread titled "lowly 440's" in the proven builds section....
but,
I could repost it here as well if anybody wants ?

 

[rumblefish360]

SURE! POST IT UP!

You list a couple of healthy cams there. I currently run a Holley Street Dominator on my 400. A very capable intake. I would also like to see/know how the heads were done. Though some might see aluminum heads and such healthy cams as on the side of race parts.

 

[cdn66satellite]

SURE! POST IT UP!

You list a couple of healthy cams there. I currently run a Holley Street Dominator on my 400. A very capable intake. I would also like to see/know how the heads were done. Though some might see aluminum heads and such healthy cams as on the side of race parts.

Well, pricing out what it would take to get a set of stock heads to flow half decent, new valve train etc, the stealth heads are $1000 for both of them. I didnt know anyone locally that ran them so I decided to be the guinea pig. Got them checked by a machine shop and checked out perfectly. Been running them without a single problem so far. Where you are almost maxed on a set of stock heads, these things can now be opened up and get that additional flow. Made sense to me.

 

[Bigal75]

There are plenty of decent hydraulic cams out there that will more than suite his purposes without spending another grand or more on quality valve trane components.

Yes, but he mentioned possibly a solid cam - sure the old purple cams work but there's much better out there. Maybe a set of heads and cam swap? Those new trick flows look nice.

 

[cdn66satellite]

Yes, but he mentioned possibly a solid cam - sure the old purple cams work but there's much better out there. Maybe a set of heads and cam swap? Those new trick flows look nice.

To put down lets just say 500 to the tires, would a head swap really be required or can these ones be opened up to flow that.

 

[lewtot184]

500 at the tires is a bunch! i'd look into sending your heads out first.

 

[IQ52]

To put down lets just say 500 to the tires, would a head swap really be required or can these ones be opened up to flow that.

The Stealth head can be ported to a 750+ HP at the flywheel potential with a 451ci engine. But you are not going to get 500 RWHP with OOTB Stealth heads, Performer intake and a flat tappet camshaft. We have been to 511 RWHP, 528 RWHP and 554 RWHP with 906 heads that flow better than all advertised CNC ported Stealth, RPM and TrickFlow heads. Figure on a really good set of ported Stealths, a single plane manifold and a solid roller cam, if you want 500 or more RWHP.

 

[cdn66satellite]

The Stealth head can be ported to a 750+ HP at the flywheel potential with a 451ci engine. But you are not going to get 500 RWHP with OOTB Stealth heads, Performer intake and a flat tappet camshaft. We have been to 511 RWHP, 528 RWHP and 554 RWHP with 906 heads that flow better than all advertised CNC ported Stealth, RPM and TrickFlow heads. Figure on a really good set of ported Stealths, a single plane manifold and a solid roller cam, if you want 500 or more RWHP.

Ok, thanks for the info. The 500 I want is definitely with ported stealths. Which intakes have you found work better than the performer?

 

[IQ52]

Two good intakes (one a dual plane) are listed by Challenger340 in post #23. Two others, MP M-1 single plane and the Edelbrock Victor 383.

 

[cdn66satellite]

i'd guess around 3800lbs.

Weighed it, we meet in the middle, car weighs 3600 lbs, full interior, gas, spare, everything.