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Anybody Know About 70 Ford Torino 429 Cobra Jet Cars?

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Anybody Know About 70 Ford Torino 429 Cobra Jet Cars?
I know...............it's a Ford, anyways,

This 80 year old lady owns it, it's got 69,*** actual miles on it. It's a 429 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, bench seat car. It hasn't been licensed since 1981.
The car is a little rough, needs quarter's, trunk extensions, and lower front fender patches. Other than that, it looks pretty good, floor pans and truck pan look good too.

I guess I don't know if it's matching number's or not, cuz I don't know where to look for the number's, and her garage is so packed full of junk that you can't even move the car, and there was about 5 inches of snow on the ground, so we didn't want to push it out.

Anyways, I guess the big question that she has is, what's it worth in this condition??

I'm just trying to help her out, she's a buddy of mine, wife's aunt. She's 80 years old and still working, she just wants to get what she can for the car.

So if any of you guys can help me out with some info that would be great! Here's a few picture's so you can get an idea on the price maybe?
Thanks
 

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Well, looks like a shaker hood car which is a big help. I believe there was a Super Cobra Jet also, but don't know what that constituted?

Just go to a Ford site like this, post the pictures and ask where the pertainent numbers are and what to look for. If it is something that is REALLY sought after you will get PMs and emails from the flippers asking how much just from what you have posted.
 
I think in 70 you could get a 428, or one of two 429s.
In 69 or 68, I think you could get a 429, a 428 or a 427!

I had a 351c shaker hood car.

For some reason, this body style doesn't command as high a price as it's contemporaries.
Don't know why. It's very attractive IMO. The 428/429 cars are surely the top of the heap. Shaker and 4 speed help. There was a stripper 429 NASCAR edition that's the absolute top. I think I remember "K" code for that one. I think Fords VINs have a letter for engine size like Mopars, but I don't know which one.

The classic salvage yard I like to go to has about a dozen 70/71 Toinos and Fairlanes.

I don't know if quarters are available or not. These either don't hardly rust at all, or rust completely (like a 66/67 B body). They also have the same issue as Mustangs with the cowl vent rusting out and then the floorboard under it. NOT an easy fix.

Mine had some pretty bad oil and other fluid leaks that were really hard to pin down, and even though it was a GT model, didn't handle nearly as well as even my worst handling Mopar. Drove great on the highway, though.
 
YY1 said:
I think in 70 you could get a 428, or one of two 429s.
In 69 or 68, I think you could get a 429, a 428 or a 427!

I had a 351c shaker hood car.

For some reason, this body style doesn't command as high a price as it's contemporaries.
Don't know why. It's very attractive IMO. The 428/429 cars are surely the top of the heap. Shaker and 4 speed help. There was a stripper 429 NASCAR edition that's the absolute top. I think I remember "K" code for that one. I think Fords VINs have a letter for engine size like Mopars, but I don't know which one.

The classic salvage yard I like to go to has about a dozen 70/71 Toinos and Fairlanes.

I don't know if quarters are available or not. These either don't hardly rust at all, or rust completely (like a 66/67 B body). They also have the same issue as Mustangs with the cowl vent rusting out and then the floorboard under it. NOT an easy fix.

Mine had some pretty bad oil and other fluid leaks that were really hard to pin down, and even though it was a GT model, didn't handle nearly as well as even my worst handling Mopar. Drove great on the highway, though.
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Yeah, but I believe that was a 429 HEMI and they only made about 2 or 3 of them.
 
Tons of info here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Torino

The 429 was the only big block available in 70. the 428 FE engines were used in the mustang and maybe a few other cars still. They of course came in Cobra Jet and Super Cobra Jet forms. If I remember right, the difference between the CJ and SCJ were what rear gears your purchased. I think 3.91 and above meant you were getting a SCJ and all of the other drag strip oriented goodies. Any other axle ratio was the regular CJ without all of the other additions like multiple coolers.

I did find some places that sell the sheet metal for the 1/4's. Not sure of the quality though. http://www.c2cfabrication.com/store/index.php?cPath=2_99

I know I would kill for that car (well ok, maybe just trade one of my other cars for it) as I am a big Torino fan. But of course I have too many projects and not enough trailer space when I move.
 
Holy crap!! I'm about ready to have you ship it to me. Is it a Cobra or GT? One of my favorite Ford bodies. Here's what I know. This car is called a sport roof and there are three different 429's available, coded N, J and R. The Shaker is for sure expensive and if it's original to the car even better. If it shows an engine code C it's an original shaker installed on the low perf engine ( N code). From what I can see here the entire combo from color to options puts this car way up in the desirability food chain, and if it has hideaway lights it's almost as good as it gets. The problem is this: They only made that body for two years so a lot of parts that you would think are easily sourced as repos don't exist. This makes it a horribly expensive car to restore. Value? Shooting from the hip maybe $7500.00 with rust issues.

Here's your benchmark

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...8920697?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cfc362279
 
Remember, the Super Cobra Jet engine in 1970 was rated at 375 h.p.

Think 4 speed R/T or GTX 440-4 and add for a shaker hood option like a Cuda/Challenger. that should get you pretty close to the value.
 
Thats one even a ford hater like me would like to have...Theres a guy in town that has a 69 talledega torino...He brings it out just for 4th of july parade..
Petty Blue 67 gTx



Being the Petty fan I am the king drove a 69 torino talledega in 69...Plymouth pissed him off in the 68 season...Plymouth asked him what would it take to get him back into a plymouth...He said he wanted a winged plymouth...The rest folks is mopar history!!!!:love9::love9:
 
Don't know much about Furds other than you should get a Marti report for it. From http://www.martiauto.com/reports2.cfm -

"We are the privileged licensee (contract #5012) to Ford Motor Company's entire production database for the 1967-1986 model years. We can tell you everything about any Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury made in North America during 1967-1979, plus Mustang 1980-1986 and Mercury Capri 1980-1986. (More years and models coming soon). What color was your car? Easy. What rear axle ratio? Sure. What day was the car sold? Yeah, even that - and a whole lot more."

Would be nice if ma Mopar had the same deal!!!
 
Meep-Meep said:
Holy crap!! I'm about ready to have you ship it to me. Is it a Cobra or GT? One of my favorite Ford bodies. Here's what I know. This car is called a sport roof and there are three different 429's available, coded N, J and R. The Shaker is for sure expensive and if it's original to the car even better. If it shows an engine code C it's an original shaker installed on the low perf engine ( N code). From what I can see here the entire combo from color to options puts this car way up in the desirability food chain, and if it has hideaway lights it's almost as good as it gets. The problem is this: They only made that body for two years so a lot of parts that you would think are easily sourced as repos don't exist. This makes it a horribly expensive car to restore. Value? Shooting from the hip maybe $7500.00 with rust issues.

Here's your benchmark

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...8920697?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cfc362279
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don't know a lot about fords. what i do know is ford junkies are about as efficient as us mopar guys, and i am a dummy about old cars except for the cev brand. i have some of, all of them but mostly another one. piss off, it dosn't make me a bad person, same tech, just different technoligies, a gee's. rick:headbang:
 
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Meep-Meep said:
Holy crap!! I'm about ready to have you ship it to me. Is it a Cobra or GT? One of my favorite Ford bodies. Here's what I know. This car is called a sport roof and there are three different 429's available, coded N, J and R. The Shaker is for sure expensive and if it's original to the car even better. If it shows an engine code C it's an original shaker installed on the low perf engine ( N code). From what I can see here the entire combo from color to options puts this car way up in the desirability food chain, and if it has hideaway lights it's almost as good as it gets. The problem is this: They only made that body for two years so a lot of parts that you would think are easily sourced as repos don't exist. This makes it a horribly expensive car to restore. Value? Shooting from the hip maybe $7500.00 with rust issues.
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It is a J code car, which would make it a "Cobra Jet" car, not a "Super" ,and the shaker is original. Thanks for the help!
 
The most current Hemmings Muscle Car mag has an article on a '68 or '69, that includes the usual box at the top of one page with market prices for CJ vs SCJ vs condition. Also a box with selected parts costs. I can grab mine and send a list or maybe scan the pages if you need it pronto and no access to a news stand.
 
there is a yellow one on ebay i think its in mich.
 
Mopars owners do have something like that

70Fish said:
Don't know much about Furds other than you should get a Marti report for it. From http://www.martiauto.com/reports2.cfm -

"We are the privileged licensee (contract #5012) to Ford Motor Company's entire production database for the 1967-1986 model years. We can tell you everything about any Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury made in North America during 1967-1979, plus Mustang 1980-1986 and Mercury Capri 1980-1986. (More years and models coming soon). What color was your car? Easy. What rear axle ratio? Sure. What day was the car sold? Yeah, even that - and a whole lot more."

Would be nice if ma Mopar had the same deal!!!
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Mopars can be researched thru a Chrysler data base by, Galen Govier {GTS Home} at www.galengovier.com
 
Anybody know about Ford 429 Cobra Jets?

Yup,
This car is a Cobra Jet. The "breather hose" comes off the drivers side of the base plate, the "Super Cobra Jet" (SCJ) has a hose coming off the front of the air cleaner base plate. SCJs are more "rare" but a 429 Cobra Jet is a GREAT find. This car is not the same as a 68 or 69 Cobra Jet. They were based on the "FE" engine series and were 428 blocks. The 70 Cobra Jets are based on the "385" series "thin wall" design engines. Subtly rated at 360HP for the Cobra Jet and a "humorous" 370 HP for the SCJs, these cars were the Rodney Dangerfield of Musclecars. the SCJs were solid lifters...real nasty on the street. ( I used to drive one) An owner could "romp" on the 429 Cobra Jets all day long and they would hold their "tune". Great cars, hard to find in good condition as this one is. Recent auction prices in #2 condition sell for high $20Ks and mid $30Ks in this repressed market. This car is very desireable!
Super-bee_ski AJA: mark

:thumbsup:
 
Have a soft spot for the Torino's. A guy in High school had a CJ, and it was bad to the bone.
 
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