Anyone here been zapped by a scorpion? Just want to compare notes.

[j-c-c-62]

Not sure on this, but I've heard somewhere, that peyote may "ease" the effects ???

Before or after?

 

[WileE]

No, but the chevy we installed it on was pretty fast, though....

 

[OldGuyGTX]

Not a scorpion, "only" a neurotoxic Mojave rattler bite, from behind while in town no less.

 

[j-c-c-62]

Not a scorpion, "only" a neurotoxic Mojave rattler bite, from behind while in town no less.

I wonder why or if large animals in the wild withstand/recover from bites from these same creatures?

 

[64BEL]

they opened for Ted Nugent on multiple tours; seen them a few times

my first concert was Scorpions, AC DC, Uncle Ted........ 1979 Philadelphia Spectrum

Yup, mid seventies for me when they had Michael and Uli Jon on guitars. If you aren’t familiar with the song Polar Nights check it out.

The first time I saw them, in June of '80, Ted Nugent was the headliner and the two opening bands were the Scorps and Def Leppard. At the time, none of us had heard of either of the 2 opening acts, but we became fans after that. They were a very different band with Ulrich Roth - he was a Hendrix disciple. I've seen them many times since - most recently in Denver in 2022. I saw Michael Schenker with his MSG group in December of 1980.

Thanks for allowing us to hijack your thread, Sahara - and for participating in the hijack!

 

[64BEL]

I had forgotten all about the Philthydelphia Scrotum!!

Watchin Ron Hexall givin it up to Cheli and Roenick!!

I'll pretend I didn't read that, Mario.

 

[Sahara]

The first time I saw them, in June of '80, Ted Nugent was the headliner and the two opening bands were the Scorps and Def Leppard. At the time, none of us had heard of either of the 2 opening acts, but we became fans after that. They were a very different band with Ulrich Roth - he was a Hendrix disciple. I've seen them many times since - most recently in Denver in 2022. I saw Michael Schenker with his MSG group in December of 1980.

Thanks for allowing us to hijack your thread, Sahara - and for participating in the hijack!

I’ll never say no to a good hijacking!

 

[MarPar]

I'll pretend I didn't read that, Mario.

 

[MarPar]

I’ll never say no to a good hijacking!

 

[SlingLow]

Not sure what they are called in Mexico.

Escorpiòns. However, Ted Nugent is still Ted Nugent.

 

[MarPar]

Escorpiòns. However, Ted Nugent is still Ted Nugent.

 

[Sahara]

Escorpiòns. However, Ted Nugent is still Ted Nugent.

Good one! Now I gotta buy the album Love at First Sting.

 

[OldGuyGTX]

I wonder why or if large animals in the wild withstand/recover from bites from these same creatures?

This is a great question, I can only share with what I know. A few summers ago, I know of four horses that were bit while grazing, and all four received veterinarian care as quickly as possible. I don't know the treatments they received, but after about 10 days to two weeks, all four died, including a very nice pony gifted to a young granddaughter for her birthday. Rattler venom causes very large swelling around the bite location, in these four cases, all bites were located between the nose and eyes, this swelling caused the horses to suffocate.

Mojave rattlers are considered to have the deadliest venom in North America, they aren't very big/long, in my many encounters, only a few have rattled before striking They blend in very well in their environment, the contents of the spent casing below, plus the open mouth, long wound channel happened while it was striking at yours truly. From personal experiences, Mojaves can be very aggressive.

FWIW, for those who winter here, rattlers in this part of Arizona can be active all 12 months of the year, it all depends on the combination of ambient and ground temperatures. Some years ago I came across a cottontail on Christmas Eve that had died from being bit, its neck area was swallen to the size of a large orange.

Be careful where you work on your MoPars.

 

[j-c-c-62]

Nice shot!

Sad story about the four horses. When I asked the question I kind of surmised evolution had protected them simply by the nature of their size makes them not a food source.

Obviously I was wrong.

 

[440 4 speed]

This is a great question, I can only share with what I know. A few summers ago, I know of four horses that were bit while grazing, and all four received veterinarian care as quickly as possible. I don't know the treatments they received, but after about 10 days to two weeks, all four died, including a very nice pony gifted to a young granddaughter for her birthday. Rattler venom causes very large swelling around the bite location, in these four cases, all bites were located between the nose and eyes, this swelling caused the horses to suffocate.

Mojave rattlers are considered to have the deadliest venom in North America, they aren't very big/long, in my many encounters, only a few have rattled before striking They blend in very well in their environment, the contents of the spent casing below, plus the open mouth, long wound channel happened while it was striking at yours truly. From personal experiences, Mojaves can be very aggressive.
View attachment 1776858

FWIW, for those who winter here, rattlers in this part of Arizona can be active all 12 months of the year, it all depends on the combination of ambient and ground temperatures. Some years ago I came across a cottontail on Christmas Eve that had died from being bit, its neck area was swallen to the size of a large orange.

Be careful where you work on your MoPars.

 

[440 4 speed]

This is a great question, I can only share with what I know. A few summers ago, I know of four horses that were bit while grazing, and all four received veterinarian care as quickly as possible. I don't know the treatments they received, but after about 10 days to two weeks, all four died, including a very nice pony gifted to a young granddaughter for her birthday. Rattler venom causes very large swelling around the bite location, in these four cases, all bites were located between the nose and eyes, this swelling caused the horses to suffocate.

Mojave rattlers are considered to have the deadliest venom in North America, they aren't very big/long, in my many encounters, only a few have rattled before striking They blend in very well in their environment, the contents of the spent casing below, plus the open mouth, long wound channel happened while it was striking at yours truly. From personal experiences, Mojaves can be very aggressive.
View attachment 1776858

FWIW, for those who winter here, rattlers in this part of Arizona can be active all 12 months of the year, it all depends on the combination of ambient and ground temperatures. Some years ago I came across a cottontail on Christmas Eve that had died from being bit, its neck area was swallen to the size of a large orange.

Be careful where you work on your MoPars.

Thank you, having been to several places throughout AZ in our travels, would you possibly give us an idea of your location? We usually stayed in places that allowed short term. Tried to be careful when walking our dog. Didn’t know anything about that rattle snake.
We have some rattle snakes in the southern part of the Province, but have never seen one.

 

[OldGuyGTX]

Nice shot!

Sad story about the four horses. When I asked the question I kind of surmised evolution had protected them simply by the nature of their size makes them not a food source.

Obviously I was wrong.

I've thought the same as you, wild critters tend to look up/around during their grazing, perhaps they see things domestic animals don't pick up on. But, given the height of range grass, it's very difficult to see what's close by. I have pictures of a Mojave coiled in a tall clump of range grass close to the pump house, where I had been working for a half-hour, they blend in very well. Also, I've seen rattlers swallow dead, full size cottontails, go figure.

 

[OldGuyGTX]

Thank you, having been to several places throughout AZ in our travels, would you possibly give us an idea of your location? We usually stayed in places that allowed short term. Tried to be careful when walking our dog. Didn’t know anything about that rattle snake.
We have some rattle snakes in the southern part of the Province, but have never seen one.

Cochise County, high desert in SE Arizona, we live at ~4500ft elevation, very scenic with our sky islands around us. Area wise, it's about the size of Connecticut and Rhode Island combined, population is about ~130,000 citizens, who knows how many people live here with open borders. If one enjoys outdoor activities, this is a great place to be. We have very good friends who snowbird from Alberta, but the dollar exchange for them isn't very good. This time of year, we have birders who come to this part of Arizona to see and photograph many different species of birds.

The Chiricahua National Monument has world-class mountain hiking, one can slowly walk within a few feet of Cous deer grazing, very close to the Visitor's Center. Some years ago the Visitor's Center had a slide show with pictures of a Jaguar, they have the reputation of a mountain lion with an attitude, 'only' ~100lbs heavier.

Nice weather, many good camping areas, but keep your dogs on a short leash. Our German Shepherds pick up on smells and sounds, they become very focused when around ground holes, gophers and 'other' animal types, they love using their noses.

This is big, wild country to explore, hopefully, next year we'll be able to do Route 66 with the GTX, it's on the bucket list. This is also a great time of year to explore driving your MoPar (motorcycles) on the highway, some car shows, even drag racing for those who are inclined to do so.