Help! Bees!

[rlem1977]

Before killing, make sure what they are. If honey bees, killing the hive leaves all that honey to rot. Then it gets moldy and begins to smell. Wasps and hornets don’t have that honey problem so you can just carb cleaner, WD-40, etc. all you want.

 

[moparedtn]

Garage is in Arizona . I had to head back to California for a few days, this morning. I can post some pics in a few days. The girlfriend won't go anywhere near em. Lots of allergies in her family.

I was actually thinking of you doing a Google Image Search online and spotting the critters that way.

 

[Richard Cranium]

my girlfriend and i are keeping an eye out

Is this her?

 

[Durandal25]

A friend of mine is letting me store a car in his giant garage, since he has not moved his cars from his old house to his new house. Unfortunately, his new place is a fixer-upper. The problem is that someone (likely before John bought it)vandalized the motion detector light at the side door of the garage, left a hole in the wall, and now we have a beehive in the wall by the door, making passage impossible.
Though not strictly my problem, my girlfriend and i are keeping an eye out , till he can move in, and i would like to have access to my car, since i have keys.
I dont know what kind of bees they are, but i doubt they are honey bees, so i have no compunction about killing them off. I snuck over twice during the night, actually around 3am, and tried to fill the hole with a can of expanding insulating foam (i dont think they can get into the inside of the garage), but i'm pretty sure it didn't work, gravity pulling the foam away from where it needed to be.
Does anyone have any brilliant ideas to get rid of/kill off these "friends" Covid finances make hiring a professional difficult at the moment, as i'm sure some of you understand.

If these are paper wasps or bald wasps.....watch out big time. They have killed people quick. Get three cans of wasp spray....at night......use one on the hole at 15-20 feet.....come back in an hr and use #2. During daylight......use number three to mop up.

 

[hanks73340]

eenie.

meenie.

minee and moe.

if minee and moe are in that garage, destroy them.

if its eenie or meenie(honey bee and bumble bee), usually they will leave you alone. They are the honey makers and pollinators. For the 1st 2 you may want to call a bee keeper. They will come and move the nest to their property. Good luck....

 

[G.V.Charger]

Having a bee keeper as a friend is always a great asset, I actually have two bee keepers as friends. Raid or wasp spray, seems to be the most common thing that everyone seems to jump to, common sense, is common sense, how many people don't know what a honey bee looks like?, a wasp or hornet does not even resemble a honey bee, and are easily identified. Thru the years, I have saved a few hives, after getting phone calls from my contractors, and clients asking what they should spray a hive with, and like always, I ask, Honey Bee's? 9 times out of ten, they have no idea, as, all they did was run in the opposite direction. If they confirm they are honey bee's, I call one of my guy's and usually ends great, a new queen and hive gain. If they are hornets or wasps, night time attacks only, they will gang on you in the daylight, won't be fun...the ten footer spray foam wasp killer works great. Seeing that they are in the wall, may take a couple of applications...My second bee keeper's daughter had a hornets nest in the farm house mud room ceiling, and yeah, it was a problem. 3ft by 3ft hive, had to remove the ceiling to remove it...

 

[MarPar]

nuts are starting to show...

 

[33 IMP]

Okay folks, first, THANKS for all the help!
I have done a little research on line, and if my memory of what they look like is correct, it looks like we may have German Black bees, a form of honey bee.
It looks like I will be trying to find a beekeeper who might want them. With a couple family members laid off from covid, and some retired, big extermination bills, or moving bills aren't in the cards, but finding out they might be honey bees makes me less inclined to destroy them. I do know of the worldwide shortage.

 

[wagonman]

When I lived in Oregon we had them all. Brown bees, yellow jackets in hives and ground burrowing. Bald face hornets you name it. One local logger would remove for free and sell to whoever makes the anti venom. Check with your state agricultural office they might be able to recommend somebody.

 

[dart4forte]

Safe to assume the bees are Africanized. Not worth taking a chance. Better to get a pro. Right now the bees priority is to pollinate so you can be assured that until that happens they aren’t going anywhere.

There are bee keepers that want the hives. Bees are in short supply. Also, be prepared to have a portion of the wall torn away. Some of those hives get pretty big.

 

[Budnicks]

I have had a lot of fun with wasp nests with the wd40/bic lighter trick, but i really dont want to burn down this garage.

(flower) chrysanthemum oils,
(not sure where to get it)
kills them, sort of melts their exoskeletons
& it's NOT harmful to pets or humans

I saw it on the nature/discovery channel

good luck

 

[33 IMP]

Just for further info, last night at about nine pm, i snuck into the garage at my friends. I needed to move some boxes of stuff over there. I got the far big garage door opened, and the boxes in, but noticed somewhere between 1000, and 5000 dead bees on the garage floor. Bad news. Clearly they have access into the garage too. This is turning into a mess. Sneaking by the side door, on the way out, the hive activity sounded like an electrical power station. At ten at night.

 

[kiwigtx]

You're in the neck of the woods that can have Africanized bees, yes?
("Killer" bees)

The way to identify those is they will have short-cropped fuzzy hair and be playing loud music.

Don't you guys have aerosol Bug-Bombs....a can that once started, dumps it's contents out - mostly used for cockroaches and crawling bugs - wood beetle etc.....might be worth a shot. I have dowsed wasp nests over the years with ordinary flyspray - just wait until dark, and spray the crap out of the nest. They just drop out and die.....larvae included.

 

[kiwigtx]

Just for further info, last night at about nine pm, i snuck into the garage at my friends. I needed to move some boxes of stuff over there. I got the far big garage door opened, and the boxes in, but noticed somewhere between 1000, and 5000 dead bees on the garage floor. Bad news. Clearly they have access into the garage too. This is turning into a mess. Sneaking by the side door, on the way out, the hive activity sounded like an electrical power station. At ten at night.

So were the bees the original inhabitants? And the new swarm of wasps killed them all?

 

[G.V.Charger]

After you posted, German black bees, looked into it a bit. People and bee keepers are still interested, and intrigued by them, the original German Black bee is a very old breed and probably no longer exists here. Your hive occupants are most likely a Feral black bee with Dutch origins, that migrated from South America. With that said, have you talked to a bee keeper yet? because I doubt they will leave on their own.

 

[hanks73340]

and now we have to worry about these bastards.........the Asian Giant Hornets

 

[33 IMP]

We have a couple calls in , one to a "beekeeper", and one to an exterminator. We'll try to figure out what to do when an expert takes a look.
I tried to lock them into the wall, but since they have access to the inside ,that wont work, but i have no access to the hive to be able to spray them with anything.
I called the agricultural office, he couldnt give a reference of who to see, but said that most bees around here are africanized, and to get a pro.

 

[chtampa]

Bee Keepers here don't want wild Bees. They carry diseases that will wipe out all of their colonies.

 

[33 IMP]

Since we basically don't know for sure what they are,and the hive will be very difficult to get at, I think we are resolved to exterminate . At least two extermination companies have already turned the job down, they don't want to deal with tearing the inside wall down.

 

[dryheat]

Welcome to Arizona. I would recommend you get a professional to get it taken care of. If they are the Americanized bees they are not something you want to tangle with. Keep calling exterminators until you find one who will do the job correctly and not just plug the obvious holes. If you are in the Phoenix area I have used http://aaabeeremoval.com/ ... they removed a portion of my garage ceiling to get to them. I had to repair the drywall though.