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Looking good Ron, I've had the pleasure of meeting Mark twice at the Nats so it doesn't surprise me that he did you right.
 
Thanks Devin, appreciate the input on everything, I have a question for you guys, im not exactly ready to tackle it but something thats been on my mind that ill be needing to do i have to ask, Can i take out the torsion bars thru the back? Like ive said and i imagine you all can tell i have very little room front to back in my shop and i hope it isint going to be putting tires and wheels on and pulling this out and back in to get them out! I have never had to change or work on a set ever, i know very little about them but i do know i have to change the torsion cross member and i hope i can get them without a problem as far as coming out the back, for all i know it's the way they have to come out lol, but, even if it brings a grin for you-all ill take it with a smile :), and i thank you in advance!!!
 
Ron, I think that is the only way you can get them out. There is a ring in the back that holds them in that you have to take out. Also you have to loosen the bolts that adjust your front end height. Let me know if you need the tool to remove your torsion bars and i'll send it your way to borrow. I won't be needing them for awhile. It might be a good idea to spray something in the ends to let them soak. Might help make it easier when you get ready to take them out.
 
Roger, Thank you much, I may take you up on the lending, It will be awhile but its been working on me and im glad i asked.. Hope to learn some more as i go along, not sure when ill do it with so much ive been doing and im doing some jumping around on this and i said i would stick to one area and move on, i guess i better get back on track before i get "overwhelmed" Thank you sir!!!!

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LOL, Before i hit the sheets again! I was thinking about this and if im not mistaken, I can rent the tool to do this from Auto Zoned out! ill need to check it out but thought id mention it!! Time will tell, and a call to them :)
 
Good luck getting them out. One of mine was rusted and I had to torch it to get it out. After struggling for a few weeks I gave up and just planned on buying new ones, putting the torch to them would have ruined them any how.

You would have to cut them to pull them out from the front. Fortunately replacements are readily available and you can get different diameter ones for different handling. Most go bigger for stiffer less floaty handling. Definitely worth considering if you're upgrading the engine (small block to big block for example).
 
Ron,

You also should remove the upper control arm bumpers, that the upper control arms rest on when the front suspension is fully off the ground. They're shaped like bullet heads and are rubber. They might be rotted away or missing by now, but if not, remove them. Good luck, it shouldn't be too bad of a job if Roger send's the torsion bar tool out your way. Just remember....make sure the front suspension is completely unloaded up front (in the air, or disassembled), remove the upper control arm bumpers, completely loosen torsion bar ride height adjustment bolts (bottom of LCA's), remove Spring Clips from back side of the torsion bars (backside of torsion bar X-Member), and remove the bars.
 
Hey Ron . . . nice of roadrunnerman to send you his tool to remove them, but there is another way ( the poor man's torsion bar removal tool ) . . . I took a couple small pieces of 2X4 and cut a V-groove into them like this . . .

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Then you use a couple big clamps and clamp them to the torsion bars . . . and hit the wood ( not the torsion bars ) with a BFH ( i.e. - large hammer )

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All the force take it's toll on the wood ( which is good ) and doesn't hurt the torsion bars ( which is also good ) . . .

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This is all documented back on page 3 of my build if you'd like to go re-visit it . . . make sure to pull the clips ( I think that is documented too ) and loosen the bolts on the bottom of the LCA as advised by Prop, Roadrunnerman, and the rest of your friends . . .

Good luck - you'll have them knocked out in no time ! !
 
No problemo on those bars Ron, just like the previous posts, loosen the LCA bolts, remove the retainer clips, use the tool of your choice and out they will come... piece of cake!
 
Doesn't hurt to soak it with liquid wrench or Kroil oil for a week or two before you get to it.
 
Id like to thank all you guys! I shouldn't have any real problems with them with you guys helping me out like this.. I have for quite awhile been spraying blaster on the ends i figured it would help out when the time comes to take them out, I tried pretty much all day to work on the 69 but all i managed today was going in to get tools for other fixes ive been at lol... I am glad the day is over, maybe in the AM ill be into something with it.. Thanks again guys!!! :)

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Hey Ron . . . nice of roadrunnerman to send you his tool to remove them, but there is another way ( the poor man's torsion bar removal tool ) . . . I took a couple small pieces of 2X4 and cut a V-groove into them like this . . .

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Then you use a couple big clamps and clamp them to the torsion bars . . . and hit the wood ( not the torsion bars ) with a BFH ( i.e. - large hammer )

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All the force take it's toll on the wood ( which is good ) and doesn't hurt the torsion bars ( which is also good ) . . .

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This is all documented back on page 3 of my build if you'd like to go re-visit it . . . make sure to pull the clips ( I think that is documented too ) and loosen the bolts on the bottom of the LCA as advised by Prop, Roadrunnerman, and the rest of your friends . . .

Good luck - you'll have them knocked out in no time ! !

I love the detailed post Khan, Thank ya!!!

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Ron,

You also should remove the upper control arm bumpers, that the upper control arms rest on when the front suspension is fully off the ground. They're shaped like bullet heads and are rubber. They might be rotted away or missing by now, but if not, remove them. Good luck, it shouldn't be too bad of a job if Roger send's the torsion bar tool out your way. Just remember....make sure the front suspension is completely unloaded up front (in the air, or disassembled), remove the upper control arm bumpers, completely loosen torsion bar ride height adjustment bolts (bottom of LCA's), remove Spring Clips from back side of the torsion bars (backside of torsion bar X-Member), and remove the bars.

Will, Thanks for the advice!! I need it and will be back to this thread to make a plan!
 
Hi Ron. Just gonna throw my two cents into the ring here with the others if that's all right. I actually used a plumbers pipe flaring tool to get mine off. I found that I could tighten it up enough to give it a firm grip, and then tapped it back with a heavy hammer and it worked like a charm. You don't always need the proper tools to get things done, sometimes you can find stuff you already have in your garage collection that'll serve a purpose it wasn't designed for. Keep at it Ron, you're doing well.
 
Well I'm late to the garage but I made it. You have made a LOT of progress buddy. I'll be following along now that I've found it

P.S. I'm glad to see Gabby involved and that pretty smile
 
Hey bud, im late 1/2 the time in "the garage" myself, but get there! And thank you, Gabby girl has a good time when she helps out... the other day she stopped in after getting off the bus and we had some fun, it wasent on the car though, i told her grandma was laying down on the couch so she went over to the security camera and started yelling that she was home, time to wake up and had a good time, i, however caught it when i went in for supper, she scared Sue 1/2 to death as she thought she was hurt and i don't think ill let her do that one again!!! lol... Im hoping this will be a good week for some work and its supposed to warm up some so maybe ill get some outside stuff done and the work out there!
 
Hey guys, I don't have anything to post right now and going thru some old pictures i came across this short video that i barely remember, i was just playing which is obvious enough and its been a long time ago now, my original mirrors are still on it and the wing is painted black but i thought id put this in, the 69 takes its place now while she sits outside which is the worse part of my project, the second year it sits out in the cold and i started it up a couple days ago and i swear the headers were whispering Why?.... lol Nope not lost it yet, just cause i made promises of the last year outside to her doesn't mean nothin! :) I was eating my dinner and the wife took my truck up to my daughters, i remember it cause i didn't think it would start it was so long and using the stereo in it the battery was about dead, but she did start any way... And ill never forget that Malibu that was the wife's car at the time sitting in the other drive, old stuff here..

[video=youtube;A1kykMXWaDA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1kykMXWaDA#t=12[/video]

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I had this old hail storm footage i took at home hear on the same page, what the hey ill put it in and watch if ya dare or not :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUFUQN6U17o
 
Hey Ron,
Another thing if you haven't already done it. If you loosen the main bolt that holds the lower arm to the k-member it will allow the arm to wiggle a little making it easier to get the T-bar out of the socket. I found that in removing the adjusters, loosening those bolts and pulling the clips...after 45 years i just needed a rubber mallet to give it a couple wake up smacks.
 
Thanks Bud!!! i will add this to my notes, I swear i don't care how i old i get, advice from guys find a home with me!
 
Hi Ron, Yea I've got nuthin to add that hasn't already been said for removing the torsion bars. As long as they are not rusted in solid, a couple of wacks with the hammer and they will come out. After watching your videos, a video came up for me to watch called "Warming up the Mopar" and it was by a fella named Ron1973ish. Could that also be you, because that was one healthy sounding Red 73 Roadrunner. Here's the link to it.

[video=youtube;Rpp2tnA5hRE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpp2tnA5hRE&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
 
Hey John yep, one and almost the same, if i remember right i was having carb problems but yes sir, that's Cristy alright! :)
That car is not a real RR and its a newer car then most like but i love that thing! That's one that stays with me there... I don't miss those older style mirrors though...

Sorry, Had to do a newer pic i like better, the mirrors are correct! :)

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And wish it was time to go again....
 
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