dantrap
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Car looks good, enjoy it as much as you can.
Rob & Stu's 69 Sport Satellite
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Bens69PlymouthSatellite
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Wow!! Love your floor mats! Where from?? I will be lookin for a set for mine soon enough I hope!! can't wait to see her together!!
detmatt1
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Really nice work, lookin great!
uk-maxie
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Hi Ben
We got them from Legendary Auto Interiors
see page 103/104 of this catalog http://legendaryautointeriors.com/files/ChryslerCatalog.pdf
Good luck :icon_thumleft:
We got them from Legendary Auto Interiors
see page 103/104 of this catalog http://legendaryautointeriors.com/files/ChryslerCatalog.pdf
Good luck :icon_thumleft:
uk-maxie
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Well the big day came today and we collected our engine from the guy who rebuilt it for us (Paul, the same guy that did our 426 MW) :icon_biggrin:
We persuaded a friend of ours to come with, so we could use his pick up to bring it back home. Thankfully it stayed dry.......... :icon_cool:
Not something you see every day on he streets of North London!
Back at Stu's place, we got it unloaded and onto a trolley, as we arent going to be able to put it in till next weekend, as we've still a few bits & bobs to get painted.
It's really just a rebuild, using mostly the same parts as were fitted when 1st built back in 87 :icon_eek:
The crank, pistons & cam were all ok to reuse, but Paul did fit new rockers & shaft, rings and gave the valve seats & guides a good going over. All the block needed was a bit of honing.
I'll get a full spec of what was done in the next week or 2, so will post more info then.
We'll get the unpainted bolts on the manifold & valve covers painted, once we've fitted the correct studs etc. The alternator in the pics is the old one so will be replaced with the new one once we've received the bolt kits we ordered from 440source a few months ago
Baffles removed to clear new rockers
More info to follow as & when....
We persuaded a friend of ours to come with, so we could use his pick up to bring it back home. Thankfully it stayed dry.......... :icon_cool:
Not something you see every day on he streets of North London!
Back at Stu's place, we got it unloaded and onto a trolley, as we arent going to be able to put it in till next weekend, as we've still a few bits & bobs to get painted.
It's really just a rebuild, using mostly the same parts as were fitted when 1st built back in 87 :icon_eek:
The crank, pistons & cam were all ok to reuse, but Paul did fit new rockers & shaft, rings and gave the valve seats & guides a good going over. All the block needed was a bit of honing.
I'll get a full spec of what was done in the next week or 2, so will post more info then.
We'll get the unpainted bolts on the manifold & valve covers painted, once we've fitted the correct studs etc. The alternator in the pics is the old one so will be replaced with the new one once we've received the bolt kits we ordered from 440source a few months ago
Baffles removed to clear new rockers
More info to follow as & when....
uk-maxie
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Bit more progress over the last couple of weeks....
Managed to find a decent pair of 68/69 HP manifolds, to replace the 70/71 pair we had - one of which was cracked. Did try getting it welded but to no avail :sad:
Bit of elbow grease, wire brush & thinners, then some V.H.T. cast iron paint (aerosol), and they look good as new. Just hope it lasts a while...
And here they are after a few coats of paint, back where they belong
Got the brake booster & wiper motor back in place before trying to fit the engine, thinking it would be easier than after, but in hindsight, we dont think it would have made much difference.
So with the manifolds on, converter filled & in the trans, next job on the list was to get the engine in and clear a bit of garage floor space!
Okay, so we may have overdone it with the soft furnishings, but figured you cant be too careful, with a couple of amatuers weilding a hoist & big lump of iron, near a freshly painted engine bay!
Safely in and unveiled...
Big relief to finally get that doneccasion14:
Now just a matter of the master cyl, p/steering & alternator pulley & brackets, trans & cooler plumbing, wiring, fit/plumb fuel filter & fuel lines, get rad checked/flushed, fit hood hinges & hood, fit water & oil gauges, modiify sock shifter for ratchet operation, refit dash & get raio converted to am/fm/stereo/mp3, fit new carpets & underlay, get seats recovered, etc etc........
Managed to find a decent pair of 68/69 HP manifolds, to replace the 70/71 pair we had - one of which was cracked. Did try getting it welded but to no avail :sad:
Bit of elbow grease, wire brush & thinners, then some V.H.T. cast iron paint (aerosol), and they look good as new. Just hope it lasts a while...
And here they are after a few coats of paint, back where they belong
Got the brake booster & wiper motor back in place before trying to fit the engine, thinking it would be easier than after, but in hindsight, we dont think it would have made much difference.
So with the manifolds on, converter filled & in the trans, next job on the list was to get the engine in and clear a bit of garage floor space!
Okay, so we may have overdone it with the soft furnishings, but figured you cant be too careful, with a couple of amatuers weilding a hoist & big lump of iron, near a freshly painted engine bay!
Safely in and unveiled...
Big relief to finally get that done
ccasion14: Now just a matter of the master cyl, p/steering & alternator pulley & brackets, trans & cooler plumbing, wiring, fit/plumb fuel filter & fuel lines, get rad checked/flushed, fit hood hinges & hood, fit water & oil gauges, modiify sock shifter for ratchet operation, refit dash & get raio converted to am/fm/stereo/mp3, fit new carpets & underlay, get seats recovered, etc etc........
detmatt1
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Awesome job! You can never be to careful.
adamst56
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Cool car. This is a great thread. You all are amazing to be able to do this type of project in the UK. It is tough enough in the US with access to parts. I would never have the patitience you all do.
uk-maxie
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Thanks Adam! Imagine what it was like 20yrs ago before the internet!! It was all done via catalog & late nite phone calls...
Mind you, it was my parents' phone bill :laughing1:
Mind you, it was my parents' phone bill :laughing1:
FatJack
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This is the greatest thread ever and a super history of you car. Love it.
BuckNeccid
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I can't tell you how amazed I am at how nice the car is with all the detail, thought and work you two are putting into the car. It'd be surprising here in the states, but to know it's being done where it is, it really raises the level to where I can't even think of the proper superlatives. Keep up the good work guys, it's sure you have the faith.
uk-maxie
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Wow! Thanks for those kind words, guys! :grin:
A quick little update to illustrate how tricky it CAN be, doing this over here...
We found that some of the paint on the engine was a bit thin, when we got it back (Paul, who built the engine, used aerosols that he got sent over from Koffel's with the engine parts).
And as we only had the remains of the last can he used, we now need another can or two, to repaint the valve covers, throttle brackets and touch-up a few little bits.
Trouble is, you cant import aerosols by air, and no one over here seems to keep the right colour (Street Hemi orange) so we either have to settle for a similar colour (GM & Nissan :icon_surprised: commonly get used), or wait a couple of months for some to come over by searotest:
Another option would be to get a local auto paint shop to mix up some suitable paint to match what we have left in the Mopar tin, but the satin black they supplied was too glossy and/or never dried fully, so we're a bit sceptical about going that route.
I guess you guys can just pop into your local Chrysler/Dodge dealership....
A quick little update to illustrate how tricky it CAN be, doing this over here...
We found that some of the paint on the engine was a bit thin, when we got it back (Paul, who built the engine, used aerosols that he got sent over from Koffel's with the engine parts).
And as we only had the remains of the last can he used, we now need another can or two, to repaint the valve covers, throttle brackets and touch-up a few little bits.
Trouble is, you cant import aerosols by air, and no one over here seems to keep the right colour (Street Hemi orange) so we either have to settle for a similar colour (GM & Nissan :icon_surprised: commonly get used), or wait a couple of months for some to come over by sea
rotest:Another option would be to get a local auto paint shop to mix up some suitable paint to match what we have left in the Mopar tin, but the satin black they supplied was too glossy and/or never dried fully, so we're a bit sceptical about going that route.
I guess you guys can just pop into your local Chrysler/Dodge dealership....
roadrunnerman
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i like how you completely covered the engine bay with blankets when you put the motor in.
uk-maxie
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Slow progress of late, but still chipping away at the to-do list. Been a bit one step forward, two steps back... you know how it is
But one area of progress to report - 'in-car-entertainment'
We havent bothered to change the Polara's radio from stock cos we'd prob have to keep the volume on 11 to hear anything above all the other noises, but as the Satellite should be a bit quieter, and we've already got 2x Pioneer speakers in the rear shelf, we thought we have something other than the AM radio that Ma Mopar supplied 42 years ago.
Did consider fitting an aftermarket radio/cd/mp3 player... maybe in the glove box. Could have fitted a decent unit (Kenwood etc), with some front speakers for just over £100 ($160), but we werent convinced by the practicalities of having a radio 5 feet away in a glove-box with a top-hinged door
I'd read in Hemmings Muscle Machines a few months ago about a guy in New York that restores original radios, converts them to stereo, adds a bit of oomph and an additional output for connecting a cd or mp3 player etc so I started looking into getting that done over here.
After a bit of searching I found a guy in Bristol (SW England, not Bristol, TN :icon_winkle who does a similar job.
So we sent our original radio (plus the spare we bought years ago as our knobs and clear plastic window were damaged when the body man loosened the windcreen sealant with a propane heater back in 1990 :tongue3: ) to our man Adrian down in Bristol, and after a couple of weeks he returned the radio cleaned up with 'new' knobs & glass fitted, converted to stereo, FM added and an external audio input via the 3.5mm plug lead.
Some pics
This is the original AM radio, c/w Bendix labels, wobbly clear plastic bit, but already with knobs transferred from the spare radio
and 2 weeks & £275 ($450) later.....
Not much to show for the money i guess but the proof of the pudding will be when I connect my mp3 player to the 4x 45 watts and see if it can compete with the Dynomax mufflers.....
Unless the wifes in the car :eusa_naughty::black_eye::icon_lol:
That last pic shows the black aux input lead for connecting to an mp3 player (i have a Walkman) or a ye olde cd player.
Adrian also supplied a pair of Radiomobile 60W pod speakers (£30) that we'll look at fitting up under the dash, to supplement the Pioneers in the rear.
But one area of progress to report - 'in-car-entertainment'
We havent bothered to change the Polara's radio from stock cos we'd prob have to keep the volume on 11 to hear anything above all the other noises, but as the Satellite should be a bit quieter, and we've already got 2x Pioneer speakers in the rear shelf, we thought we have something other than the AM radio that Ma Mopar supplied 42 years ago.
Did consider fitting an aftermarket radio/cd/mp3 player... maybe in the glove box. Could have fitted a decent unit (Kenwood etc), with some front speakers for just over £100 ($160), but we werent convinced by the practicalities of having a radio 5 feet away in a glove-box with a top-hinged door
I'd read in Hemmings Muscle Machines a few months ago about a guy in New York that restores original radios, converts them to stereo, adds a bit of oomph and an additional output for connecting a cd or mp3 player etc so I started looking into getting that done over here.
After a bit of searching I found a guy in Bristol (SW England, not Bristol, TN :icon_winkle
who does a similar job.So we sent our original radio (plus the spare we bought years ago as our knobs and clear plastic window were damaged when the body man loosened the windcreen sealant with a propane heater back in 1990 :tongue3: ) to our man Adrian down in Bristol, and after a couple of weeks he returned the radio cleaned up with 'new' knobs & glass fitted, converted to stereo, FM added and an external audio input via the 3.5mm plug lead.
Some pics
This is the original AM radio, c/w Bendix labels, wobbly clear plastic bit, but already with knobs transferred from the spare radio
and 2 weeks & £275 ($450) later.....
Not much to show for the money i guess but the proof of the pudding will be when I connect my mp3 player to the 4x 45 watts and see if it can compete with the Dynomax mufflers.....
Unless the wifes in the car :eusa_naughty::black_eye::icon_lol:
That last pic shows the black aux input lead for connecting to an mp3 player (i have a Walkman) or a ye olde cd player.
Adrian also supplied a pair of Radiomobile 60W pod speakers (£30) that we'll look at fitting up under the dash, to supplement the Pioneers in the rear.
Coronet 500
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Hey uk, I like the way you think, worth every penny. I'd do the same thing cause one thing that turns me off with any older car is seeing a modern style radio in the original hole. I can't tell you why but as soon as I see it I have to turn my head like I'm seeing some terrible car wreck and walk away. Car is looking great.
uk-maxie
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Thanks, Yes I'm with you on that, a new radio never seems to look right, unless the whole interior has been 'modernised', like on these new-fangled 'pro-touring' cars :icon_confused:
The only visible difference, apart from the black lead hanging down from the dash (which we may coil up & keep in the ash tray when not used), is a small 3 colour LED between the '14' & '16' on the dial, which serves as an indicator to show what function has been set, ie AM, FM or mp3.
The only visible difference, apart from the black lead hanging down from the dash (which we may coil up & keep in the ash tray when not used), is a small 3 colour LED between the '14' & '16' on the dial, which serves as an indicator to show what function has been set, ie AM, FM or mp3.
uk-maxie
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Slowish progress over the last few weeks, thanks mainly to a few awkward little parts that were proving difficult to track down, plus some unscheduled maintenance on the Polara, a week before our 1st proper show of the year :eusa_doh: (but that's another story, for the other Members Cars thread) but we're gradually getting thru the 'to do' list...
I took these pics on Saturday while I was at my brother's garage, in between coats of satin black on the steering column brackets, and street hemi orange on the valve covers...
I asked a while ago about fitting an aftermarket trans cooler, and got a few suggestions about what to do with the cooler lines.
Ideally we wanted something stock looking, but as we dont have trans coolant connections in our rad, we plumbed the cooler direct from the trans, and used a mixture of 5/16 hard lines (copper/nickel) and rubber hose (with 'proper' ends) for the awkward areas...
The transition from hardlines to rubber hoses should be fairly well hidden by the battery tray so we're hoping the plumbing will blend in without being too obvious...
And now we have the paint we ordered from Mancini ages ago, we can get a few bits painted that will allow us to finish off the rest of the engine bay.
I took these pics on Saturday while I was at my brother's garage, in between coats of satin black on the steering column brackets, and street hemi orange on the valve covers...
I asked a while ago about fitting an aftermarket trans cooler, and got a few suggestions about what to do with the cooler lines.
Ideally we wanted something stock looking, but as we dont have trans coolant connections in our rad, we plumbed the cooler direct from the trans, and used a mixture of 5/16 hard lines (copper/nickel) and rubber hose (with 'proper' ends) for the awkward areas...
The transition from hardlines to rubber hoses should be fairly well hidden by the battery tray so we're hoping the plumbing will blend in without being too obvious...
And now we have the paint we ordered from Mancini ages ago, we can get a few bits painted that will allow us to finish off the rest of the engine bay.
uk-maxie
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Bit overdue for an update.... like 9 months overdue :icon_redface:
Still got the master cylinder to bench-bleed & refit but the front calipers have been rebuilt and fitted with new hoses. We decided to keep the original 4-pot Bendix calipers rather than buying new/rebuilt ones so got them rebuilt by a company over here http://www.pastparts.co.uk/ following recommendation by a fellow UK Mopar club member.
We had the option of either having them left natural (ie stripped & blasted), plated silver or 'gold', or powder coated silver or black.
As we wanted to try & get them looking natural but with some corrosion protection, we planned to paint them ourselves with one of the million different 'natural look' paints from on the market, so had them plated first for extra protection.
First of all, this is how they were before we removed them:
And this is how they looked when we got them back from being rebuilt & plated (any brown bits you can see are grease, not rust!):
Odd that the plating is 2 different shades as I'd have thought they would have got them plated together, but we werent too worried as they were going to be painted as well.
After - Rebuilt, painted & fitted
As I said before, now we have the engine paint, we've been able to finish off a few little jobs like painting & fitting the plug wire separators/brackets (from Year One) . We left the 2 off that fit under the head bolts (1 each side) as we didnt want to disturb the head bolts quite yet plus acess is quite tricky now the exh manifolds are on. We'll leave them for a later date.
FBO 'orange' box is now fitted under the battery tray; not quite as hidden as if it were inside the car under the heater, as someone suggested, but that's one less hole we need to add to the bulkhead.
Still got the master cylinder to bench-bleed & refit but the front calipers have been rebuilt and fitted with new hoses. We decided to keep the original 4-pot Bendix calipers rather than buying new/rebuilt ones so got them rebuilt by a company over here http://www.pastparts.co.uk/ following recommendation by a fellow UK Mopar club member.
We had the option of either having them left natural (ie stripped & blasted), plated silver or 'gold', or powder coated silver or black.
As we wanted to try & get them looking natural but with some corrosion protection, we planned to paint them ourselves with one of the million different 'natural look' paints from on the market, so had them plated first for extra protection.
First of all, this is how they were before we removed them:
And this is how they looked when we got them back from being rebuilt & plated (any brown bits you can see are grease, not rust!):
Odd that the plating is 2 different shades as I'd have thought they would have got them plated together, but we werent too worried as they were going to be painted as well.
After - Rebuilt, painted & fitted
As I said before, now we have the engine paint, we've been able to finish off a few little jobs like painting & fitting the plug wire separators/brackets (from Year One) . We left the 2 off that fit under the head bolts (1 each side) as we didnt want to disturb the head bolts quite yet plus acess is quite tricky now the exh manifolds are on. We'll leave them for a later date.
FBO 'orange' box is now fitted under the battery tray; not quite as hidden as if it were inside the car under the heater, as someone suggested, but that's one less hole we need to add to the bulkhead.
uk-maxie
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One thing that's been holding us up getting some of the interior back together is what to do about fitting front speaker(s)
We were looking at fitting a couple of 4" pod speakers I bought from the guy that rebuilt the radio, under the dash, but they're a bit too bulky, being pod speakers (ie 4" cubed, approx) so we started looking at whether we can utilise the existing single speaker in the dash.
Having looked at a few threads on here we decided on this:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0YAfrbQZuST/p_068R410N/Retrosound-R-410N.html?tp=99
The bumpf says
"....The single R-410N 4"x10" speaker is designed for a classic car with only one speaker opening on its dash or rear deck. The woofer features dual voice coils, each one connected to its own tweeter. Your stereo receiver connects to both voice coils, so you get a stereo mix from a single speaker. In effect, you get two 2-way speakers in one frame, for modern sound in your vintage application...."
Okay, so it's not going to give the same stereo effect as if we'd fitted 2 speakers uder the dash, but that was looking like they were only going to be about 18" apart cos of all the other stuff under there (heater & controls, pedal assembly, glovebox etc). Should be good enough for what we want tho.
Original speaker removed:
New speaker from Retrosound:
Lets hope it fits...
We were looking at fitting a couple of 4" pod speakers I bought from the guy that rebuilt the radio, under the dash, but they're a bit too bulky, being pod speakers (ie 4" cubed, approx) so we started looking at whether we can utilise the existing single speaker in the dash.
Having looked at a few threads on here we decided on this:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0YAfrbQZuST/p_068R410N/Retrosound-R-410N.html?tp=99
The bumpf says
"....The single R-410N 4"x10" speaker is designed for a classic car with only one speaker opening on its dash or rear deck. The woofer features dual voice coils, each one connected to its own tweeter. Your stereo receiver connects to both voice coils, so you get a stereo mix from a single speaker. In effect, you get two 2-way speakers in one frame, for modern sound in your vintage application...."
Okay, so it's not going to give the same stereo effect as if we'd fitted 2 speakers uder the dash, but that was looking like they were only going to be about 18" apart cos of all the other stuff under there (heater & controls, pedal assembly, glovebox etc). Should be good enough for what we want tho.
Original speaker removed:
New speaker from Retrosound:
Lets hope it fits...
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