Second generation Charger survival rate?

[chargervert]

There was an interesting thread on DC.com about the survival rate of second generation Chargers, but unfortunately it veered off the rails into a Corona virus thread. My thoughts are that 25 to 30 percent is the actual survival rate, with 5 percent of that being because AMD offered up the sheetmetal to save cars that otherwise would have been deemed to be parts cars. What are your thoughts on this subject. The production numbers were approximately 96,000 1968 models built with 17,000 of them being R/T models, 83,000 1969 models built with 22,000 of them being R/T models,and 45,000 1970 models built,with 10,000 of them being R/T models.

 

[91r/t]

Crazy that half the number of Chargers roughly were built in 1970 than in 1968 and it seems that's all I see or 1969's. 68's seem rarest to me around here anyways and yet they made the most of the 3......

 

[spoolinhard]

No idea. I'm just glad that people are rebuilding the parts cars

 

[YY1]

Absolutely no way to tell unless you know what happened to every one of them, or a vast majority.

Statistically possible but not practical.


Here's how to start-

Pick a sample size, a good percentage of total production, say 20%.

Pick that number of serial numbers at random from a list of valid serial numbers.

Track down the last or current owner of all those cars, or find records of their destruction or sales.

Any dead ends should be discarded and the sample size reduced, or replaced with a different VIN.

 

[CHARGERSTEVEN]

There was an interesting thread on DC.com about the survival rate of second generation Chargers, but unfortunately it veered off the rails into a Corona virus thread. My thoughts are that 25 to 30 percent is the actual survival rate, with 5 percent of that being because AMD offered up the sheetmetal to save cars that otherwise would have been deemed to be parts cars. What are your thoughts on this subject. The production numbers were approximately 96,000 1968 models built with 17,000 of them being R/T models, 83,000 1969 models built with 22,000 of them being R/T models,and 45,000 1970 models built,with 10,000 of them being R/T models.

I think you are a little of on the 69 model year for production numbers as anywhere ive seen its over 89000 cars built

 

[chargervert]

Crazy that half the number of Chargers roughly were built in 1970 than in 1968 and it seems that's all I see or 1969's. 68's seem rarest to me around here anyways and yet they made the most of the 3......

The 70 Charger faced challenges that the previous model years didn't. Part of the reason why the production numbers are that low,is because the manufacturer's used to release a completely new model almost every year, the second generation Charger was considered to be dated by the third year of production. Aside from that,were skyrocketing insurance rates for musclecars, as well as several brand new models of other brands were released in 1970. Two of those new models that ate into Charger and all B body platform Mopars,were the all new Dodge Challenger, and the Plymouth Barracuda.

 

[chargervert]

I think you are a little of on the 69 model year for production numbers as anywhere ive seen its over 89000 cars built

I believe that the 89,000 number includes Canadian and export cars, I have heard numbers from the 83,000,to 86,000,to the 89,000 that you just quoted.

 

[chargervert]

Most people who I know that own second generation Chargers, usually own more than one of them. Up until this year, I personally owned 11 of them. I have been downsizing my hoard,so I sold off some of the rougher project cars,now I own 7 of them.

 

[Richard Cranium]

I wouldn't have an idea how to figure the survival rate, but 25-30 percent seems high for a 50+ year old cars.

 

[1968rt]

I bet its lower than 10%

 

[69Coronetrt]

Absolutely no way to tell unless you know what happened to every one of them, or a vast majority.

Statistically possible but not practical.


Here's how to start-

Pick a sample size, a good percentage of total production, say 20%.

Pick that number of serial numbers at random from a list of valid serial numbers.

Track down the last or current owner of all those cars, or find records of their destruction or sales.

Any dead ends should be discarded and the sample size reduced, or replaced with a different VIN.

plus you have to determine “in what condition does the car exist?” Does just the VIN or fender tag survive? It it a rusted out shell that can never realistically be revived? At what point in it’s existence is the car?

the “how many survived” question is interesting but ultimately unquantifiable and, frankly, academic.

 

[6PKRTSE]

I know of a 69 plain Jane 318 Charger that has been sitting for many, many years that I have been trying to buy to help save another one. I don't even think all of the AMD metal made could save it? Been trying to buy it but we are too far apart. Being that it is not a numbers Hemi R/T or anything of value, it's probably not worth saving but a parts car. I haven't given up yet though.

 

[spoolinhard]

I know of a 69 plain Jane 318 Charger that has been sitting for many, many years that I have been trying to buy to help save another one. I don't even think all of the AMD metal made could save it? Been trying to buy it but we are too far apart. Being that it is not a numbers Hemi R/T or anything of value, it's probably not worth saving but a parts car. I haven't given up yet though.

There are plenty of people who cannot afford a charger, that are lining up to pay for the rotted out 318 cars.

 

[6PKRTSE]

There are plenty of people who cannot afford a charger, that are lining up to pay for the rotted out 318 cars.

Like I mentioned. I haven't given up on it yet. I made him an offer but he wants 3 times what I offered. I am afraid to move it as it may break or crumble while transporting.

 

[68confusedcharger]

Most people who I know that own second generation Chargers, usually own more than one of them. Up until this year, I personally owned 11 of them. I have been downsizing my hoard,so I sold off some of the rougher project cars,now I own 7 of them.

Down to 7?! WOW! I'd love to see pics!

 

[chargervert]

1)70 Charger R / T custom convertible.

 

[chargervert]

2) 70 Charger R / T SE 440 4 speed. Had a Hemi in it for a while.

 

[chargervert]

3) 70 Charger R / T V code 440 Sixpack

 

[chargervert]

4)&5)69 Charger R / T SE, and blue 68 Charger 318. Pic is not very good due to the location of the cars.

 

[chargervert]

6) 70 Charger R / T, Daytona stock car project.