so, was the "Mopar Inheritance" a scam?

[kiwigtx]

I don't think that it would be a mess to the degree that you describe if it is kept in check.

And just who here has all that extra time on their hands???

Those threads always turn to crap - there's always a guy or two swooping in like vultures to pick the bones without posting anything. Is that what we want?

The rules were crated for good reasons - we are not here to argue them, we are here to help keep things in line with those rules.

 

[kiwigtx]

I've rarely seen a Moderator list anything for sale.

There's a damn good reason why I don't offer much for sale here. Too many people are too tight to part with more than a couple of dollars for postage for one.

On the occasions that I have sent parts to USA, I have subsidised the postage price, or virtually given stuff away to help someone out. Not doing that for notoriety or glory - just to help a guy out who deserves it.

On the other hand....I have bought plenty, and even got the shaft from one asshole that was a scammer - over some wheels. I was alerted to the fact he was a scammer after my money had been sent. And I thought I had researched that guy enough.

The other 'sour' deal I had was buying two x 8-3/4 diff heads - photos looked good, except upon receiving the goods some three months later - one of the heads was toast. That member was probably laughing hard with my money. So now I only deal with people who really are regulars if I can help it.

Oh, and I also got shunted out of something I really desperately needed by a well-known seller here just because he claimed he never saw my Private Message. more like it all too difficult for him to deal with someone outside the CONUS. Prick. Do I sound like a "Fly-by-nighter" ???

 

[Kern Dog]

Come on, man....
They don't have to be a problem if the rules are set up and followed.
I'm not an advocate for the WIW forum just for myself. I see it as a way to help others too.
In the past 15+ years, I've taken in at least 10 collections of parts from a variety of Mopar guys. Much of it is for C bodies, early A, some Challenger/Cuda stuff too. I don't have any of those cars so I'm not familiar with the value of the parts.
The new guy that joins the forum may be curious about what a fair price is to pay for a grille or torsion bars.
It would also be like any tech question where an inexperienced person gains knowledge from the forum.

 

[kiwigtx]

I absolutely meant no offense to you guys. I just don’t recall seeing many ads listed by moderators. I don’t see everything though so bear with me.
I was thinking that for the members that step out of bounds, a penalty could be a one week ban from the WIW forum. Subsequent violations could carry a stiffer penalty. It should be strongly encouraged to use PMs if someone is interested in buying. The political forum has the listing HAVE A THICK SKIN so the WIW forum could have a warning on it too.
Just a few ideas, more are simmering as we chat here…

We lose enough time trying to sort out other messes that are created by people who cannot follow the simple friggin' rules that we have here.....how many more problems to we need to invent?

Turn your stove off Greg...your pot is simmering over.

 

[Kern Dog]

Hey, I'm not trying to suggest something that would cause you guys a bunch of trouble. Maybe Being the optimist that I am, I don't see it as much of a problem as you guys do.

I'll bet that there are a few of you Moderators that wish that this forum did NOT have a political section but it seems to get a LOT of action. There are those that post in that forum that I'm sure never post anywhere else. No tech topics, no pictures, no active car projects, just politics.
It must be worth it to someone. Site traffic would drop like a rock if that forum was dropped.
The prospect of a WIW forum could be approached and watched like the political forum but it would surely be a much more friendly exchange there.
To post sales ads here, there is a timer counting down that prompts those people to read the rules and click a box to acknowledge them.
Something like that could be implemented.

Regarding Moderators that rarely sell items.... I absolutely understand the overseas shipping issue!
I tried hard to make the point without being a jerk. I didn't want to make it seem like you guys can't know the struggle we face but in a small way, that is true. If Joey and the "Police" haven't felt the frustration of not knowing the value to price our stuff, you might not understand the value of the help that a WIW forum would be to the ones that sell.

 

[kiwigtx]

Hey, I'm not trying to suggest something that would cause you guys a bunch of trouble. Maybe Being the optimist that I am, I don't see it as much of a problem as you guys do.

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I'll bet that there are a few of you Moderators that wish that this forum did NOT have a political section but it seems to get a LOT of action. There are those that post in that forum that I'm sure never post anywhere else. No tech topics, no pictures, no active car projects, just politics.
It must be worth it to someone. Site traffic would drop like a rock if that forum was dropped.
The prospect of a WIW forum could be approached and watched like the political forum but it would surely be a much more friendly exchange there.
To post sales ads here, there is a timer counting down that prompts those people to read the rules and click a box to acknowledge them.
Something like that could be implemented.

Regarding Moderators that rarely sell items.... I absolutely understand the overseas shipping issue!
I tried hard to make the point without being a jerk. I didn't want to make it seem like you guys can't know the struggle we face but in a small way, that is true. If Joey and the "Police" haven't felt the frustration of not knowing the value to price our stuff, you might not understand the value of the help that a WIW forum would be to the ones that sell.

I won't discuss the merits or pitfalls of the Political Forum here ....but I will say that it has been relatively well-behaved lately.

It's almost like something is missing.

 

[Kern Dog]

 

[1STMP]

I have sold many parts here (FABO). It's pretty easy to do your homework or google the part and search ads. If I have $200 in a intake manifold and want to resell it, $300 sounds like a good price unless it's a rare piece and worth $500. I have been involved in such a process many times while in the tool business. What a pain it is to come up with a fair value.

What @Kern Dog is requesting/suggesting makes sense,
especially for those of that are new or have inherited items
pertaining to older Mopars, and not a clue what they're
worth.
A reasonable way to set prices would be to include
a min/max range. No offers to purchase or sell should
be allowed.
It may be just out of curiosity someone would appreciate
knowing exactly what they have, and really don't have an
intrest in buying or selling.
There's also guys out there like me that have a pretty
good source of unadvertised parts for sale where I
could negotiate a fair price with the seller if I had
some idea what they're worth and supply a WTB
forum member with info for that source.
Parts sources for our old junkers are drying up.
The forum shouldn't take that much more time
to police than the political forum does.

 

[Kern Dog]

Thank you.
If I could make a list of the parts that I have and then get an approximate value, I'd have that to give to my wife if I were to get sick and be unable to sell off the inventory. I wouldn't want her to be cheated out of getting fair money for this stuff.
We never know how long we will live. It is a good idea to lighten the burden on those that will live on if we pass first.

 

[1STMP]

Agree, KD
A spouse under duress would let emotions rule and
tend to get the pain eased as soon as they could.
Seen it happen time and time again They won't
recognise your efforts in amassing your collection
of 'stuff'.
I'm glad you brought up this aspect.
All the more reason to start this type of forum.

 

[1STMP]

This morning someone from Canada joined and posted for help with a Mopar collection they inherited.

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Thanks, Sam, for sparking the creation of a forum
that could benifit many.

 

[68BabyBlue]

Thank you.
If I could make a list of the parts that I have and then get an approximate value, I'd have that to give to my wife if I were to get sick and be unable to sell off the inventory. I wouldn't want her to be cheated out of getting fair money for this stuff.
We never know how long we will live. It is a good idea to lighten the burden on those that will live on if we pass first.

I’ve had this discussion with my wife. She has real trouble appreciating what my parts are worth. She hates clutter, and NOS GTX trim is junk to her. I’ve always had to use outside sources to convince her the cars had value, but that information is readily available. Not so with parts. I've started giving stuff away, rather than risk having it go in the dumpster later.

 

[Runcharger]

I've got tons of parts I have to throw away before I croak. I have already thrown a semi truck load of parts away. I don't advertise them because it isn't worth the trouble of dealing with "buyers" and I won't dump the trouble of ditching them all to my widow if that's what happens.
What I do suggest to heirs is just hire an auction house to do the job and be happy with whatever they get for it. I know that when I'm dead I won't be worried if my heirs didn't get full value for stuff. Make sure the auction house advertises well before hiring them though.
Everyone would pay you a lot for your parts if only you lived next door, then they would want the neighbor discount though. It just isn't worth the trouble.

 

[sam dupont]

No offense intended 1STMP, but I am fine with the current: Price with a OBO in place of a WIW. I wouldn't ask for anything because I'm not going to help. It's not easy as a seller, but I like the fact that as a buyer, when I click on a FS ad I know I will see a price and a photo. I had a power seat bezel for an old Ford just bring $250 at auction. How would one ever guess that price to sell it as a Buy it Now? Probably one of a few in existence and was stunningly beautiful; but how can one do a price check? Without Ford's putting a number on every damn thing, I could have never guessed its application.

I won't discuss the merits or pitfalls of the Political Forum here ....but I will say that it has been relatively well-behaved lately.

It's almost like something is missing.

differing opinions? respect?

 

[toolmanmike]

I've got tons of parts I have to throw away before I croak. I have already thrown a semi truck load of parts away. I don't advertise them because it isn't worth the trouble of dealing with "buyers" and I won't dump the trouble of ditching them all to my widow if that's what happens.
What I do suggest to heirs is just hire an auction house to do the job and be happy with whatever they get for it. I know that when I'm dead I won't be worried if my heirs didn't get full value for stuff. Make sure the auction house advertises well before hiring them though.
Everyone would pay you a lot for your parts if only you lived next door, then they would want the neighbor discount though. It just isn't worth the trouble.

A friend of mine passed away 5 years ago. It took his buddy (and his wife) 3 years to sell off all he had collected and liquidate his car salvage yard business. One good thing about it all is that the estate got good money for all his collection and the pieces went to good homes. I wish I had storage for some of it. He was selling complete 360's for $100 each. Rebuilders were hauling them out by the semi load. He also had a huge 43 collection (Petty) and he was into Mopar kit cars. He had a unassembled "kit" that got sold to someone down south. He had A100's and 50's Sweptsides as well.

 

[Hey-O]

I realize this isn't about me or for me, nor does it affect me, but can you imagine someone listing their entire junkyard on here asking what it's worth. Everyone has their point of view how much something is worth. I've bid on things that the sell later sent me a message thanking me for paying some outrageous price. If I WANT it or NEED it, it's mine. Get serious, it's worth whatever the market will bear. Fair price is usually, it's mine it's gold and if it's yours, that's to much............... I only say this is just my opinion, because I didn't read it somewhere, it's just my opinion.

 

[1STMP]

No offense intended 1STMP, but I am fine with the current: Price with a OBO in place of a WIW. I wouldn't ask for anything because I'm not going to help. It's not easy as a seller, but I like the fact that as a buyer, when I click on a FS ad I know I will see a price and a photo. I had a power seat bezel for an old Ford just bring $250 at auction. How would one ever guess that price to sell it as a Buy it Now? Probably one of a few in existence and was stunningly beautiful; but how can one do a price check? Without Ford's putting a number on every damn thing, I could have never guessed its application.



differing opinions? respect?

No offense taken.
But I think what @Kern Dog is suggesting would be
a useful tool for some.
Dumping stuff just gets back to the point of who
profits most upon ones passing.
The guy hauling engines away by the truckload?

 

[toolmanmike]

I realize this isn't about me or for me, nor does it affect me, but an you imagine someone listing their entire junkyard on here asking what it's worth. Everyone has their point of view how much something is worth. I've bid on things that the sell later sent me a message thanking me for paying some outrageous price. If I WANT it or NEED it, it's mine. Get serious, it's worth whatever the market will bear. Fair price is usually, it's mine it's gold and if it's yours, that's to much............... I only say this is just my opinion, because I didn't read it somewhere, it's just my opinion.

Right you are. In the case of the young fella that started the WIW thread was looking for a ballpark figure of it all. (tough call looking at a few pics on the internet) After a suggestion by a member, that someone come to the collection to look over the cars and parts to give an estimate, it sounded like a better idea. That would work. Then the guy could place ads here (or wherever) for the cars and parts. Finding someone to buy the whole thing is a tall order. Possible but not probable. @ech0es I hope you are following this thread.

 

[chargervert]

Go and check out the Moparts WIW section and see what they do. It is probably the only section I look at there other than the classified section to see what's for sale.

 

[68BabyBlue]

I realize this isn't about me or for me, nor does it affect me, but an you imagine someone listing their entire junkyard on here asking what it's worth. Everyone has their point of view how much something is worth. I've bid on things that the sell later sent me a message thanking me for paying some outrageous price. If I WANT it or NEED it, it's mine. Get serious, it's worth whatever the market will bear. Fair price is usually, it's mine it's gold and if it's yours, that's to much............... I only say this is just my opinion, because I didn't read it somewhere, it's just my opinion.

When I bought the Demonstrator, it came with a pick up truck load of spare parts. I hadn't anticipated this when I bought the car. The seller gave me the parts after we closed. He didn't want to deal with the irritation of selling them. The stash was easily worth over $5000 if one was trying to buy the pieces individually. I've hedged my bets, started giving stuff away to other FBBO guys at Carlisle, sold other pieces at an aggressive discount, keeping some items like the grille, as long as I'm driving the car.

Rule of thumb presented by an estates attorney at my last CLE course - unless you have household contents valued over $1 million, it's usually more cost efficient to put it all in a roll off dumpster, than to hire an auction company. Stuff no one wants to hear.