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At least it wasn't another Govt. Motors/GM taxpayers paid for commercial, bashing Ford again...
What Did You Think About Chrysler's "It's Halftime America" Commercial?
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Histoy
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Serious.... It was a great commercial, but I'm surprised that it didn't end by saying "I'm Barak Obama, and I approve this message."....lol
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LOL, he approved it. Saw it on the news tonight.
I liked the commercial, liked the message, see it for the ad slag that it is. Now if we were talking about Doritos.......
pabster
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Dude. It's a positive message about pulling together and making this country great. You seriously have to bring the whole liberal vs. conservative thing into it? That us vs. them thing is getting us nowhere! Look at how messed up this country is! You think it's all Obama's fault? It's BOTH parties fault! Nobody in Congress wants to work with the "other side", so we all lose.
Bush had 8 years to get it right. He left us with tons of debt, two wars unfinished. Obama has had 4 years, debt has increased, economy, healthcare, infrastructure, education all a mess. Neither side knows what the hell they're doing! If I ran my company like the Fed, I'd be out of business in a month, being audited by the IRS.
Ahh. Needed to rant. Feel better. I dig places like this forum, where people can come together with a common cause, help each other out and treat each other with respect. If only our government could do the same.
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Thanks guys...did another upload and they look good to me...Marla
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moparsteve636
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Pabster,Thanks for posting it!But it says it is no longer available.Oh Well it had to be good with Clint and a Chrysler combined!
moparsteve636
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The only way the feds will ever work together,Is to clean house from the lowly janitor all the way to the HMIC!Get the rich SOBs out and let the normal folk start over.T.Jefferson said that when they signed the Declaration of Independence.Which is nothing more than a piece of paper with writing on it now!
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:iamwithstupid: After watching it several times now, It kind of made me think it was a second term political add for Obama {were at halftime America, wink, wink, like the job is only half done, it would be interesting to see who actually paid for the add} helping or taking credit for bailing out the Auto industry, or am I just adding 2+2 & getting 5... Clint was running as mayor as a Republican if I'm not mistaken though, so maybe I'm reading something into the message that isn't really there... Other than the political aspect I thought it was a good commercial you didn't even know it was a Chrysler commercial until the very end....
:iamwithstupid: After watching it several times now, It kind of made me think it was a second term political add for Obama {were at halftime America, wink, wink, like the job is only half done, it would be interesting to see who actually paid for the add} helping or taking credit for bailing out the Auto industry, or am I just adding 2+2 & getting 5... Clint was running as mayor as a Republican if I'm not mistaken though, so maybe I'm reading something into the message that isn't really there... Other than the political aspect I thought it was a good commercial you didn't even know it was a Chrysler commercial until the very end....
pabster
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Chrysler LLC paid for the ad.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/debunking-the-attacks-on-chryslers-clint-eastwood-super-bowl-ad/2012/02/07/gIQAqxS0wQ_blog.html
How is a positive message about the recovery of this country a liberal plot?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/debunking-the-attacks-on-chryslers-clint-eastwood-super-bowl-ad/2012/02/07/gIQAqxS0wQ_blog.html
How is a positive message about the recovery of this country a liberal plot?
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I didn't say it was a liberal plot, but now you bring up the subject, I do think the current President & US govt. ties to the Auto Workers Unions & the Billion dollar Obama re-election machine & donations to his re-election fund, are in every aspect of the car industry now, even the Italians/Fiat/Chrysler aren't exempt from it... Just look at his many speachs at many Union organized events for the US Auto industry to benefit the Obama re-election... By the way I said I liked the add, but I thought it had a subliminal/ulterior message... Just because they say it was paid for by Chrysler doesn't mean, that's were the funds ultimately came from, that's just who wrote the check for the add... It's just an observation on my part... I'm not trying to turn this into a political liberal vs. conservative argument...
I didn't say it was a liberal plot, but now you bring up the subject, I do think the current President & US govt. ties to the Auto Workers Unions & the Billion dollar Obama re-election machine & donations to his re-election fund, are in every aspect of the car industry now, even the Italians/Fiat/Chrysler aren't exempt from it... Just look at his many speachs at many Union organized events for the US Auto industry to benefit the Obama re-election... By the way I said I liked the add, but I thought it had a subliminal/ulterior message... Just because they say it was paid for by Chrysler doesn't mean, that's were the funds ultimately came from, that's just who wrote the check for the add... It's just an observation on my part... I'm not trying to turn this into a political liberal vs. conservative argument...
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Checked out your gallery and it looks like your pictures all loaded correctly this time. Hope you can find the time to put some more of your RR in there.
Nice looking picture of you on the bike. Looks like the only stretching you have to deal with now is with those pants you are wearing! LOL!
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I agree with you that there are plenty of ties between the Auto Workers Unions and the Democratic Party, and that these ties have been around for decades. That being said, I drove transit for years and was active in my Union, so I cut other unions lots of slack.
Don't mean to get hot around the collar about this ad, it just struck a chord in me that made me really proud to be American- I hope there was no subliminal message in it, just a plain reminder that we're all in this together.
And you're right- who knows what large entity is behind buying and selling many things these days...
Don't mean to get hot around the collar about this ad, it just struck a chord in me that made me really proud to be American- I hope there was no subliminal message in it, just a plain reminder that we're all in this together.
And you're right- who knows what large entity is behind buying and selling many things these days...
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I was moved by the intent of the message also... I am a loyal American & try to buy only American products when ever I can, I am a die hard Mopar & Chrysler Corp. fan for my whole adult life... I think Clint is a great actor... But I'm also not so naive to think there isn't a ulterior motive for any of these ads, especially in an election year & the ties to Obama's re-election machine, put out by the automotive industry or the PR firms that backed the automotive bail out, the automotive unions & Obama supporters who do these ads & spend the money on a Super Bowl ad, that was done by a firm that is a long time democratic pro-union supporter... We aren't all lemmings, we don't all need to believe what we see on TV or in advertisements... I for one hope the U.S. American automotive industry thrives & prospers, especially Chrysler, with hopes that Detroit is gaining a larger share in the industry again, but I also think advertising is a double edge sword & don't think everything is what it seems to be on the surface...Just my 2 cents...
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I really liked it!
But then again I'm all for promoting the idea that we are all in this together so its time to quit pointing fingers & whining like a bunch of little ******* and work toward what we are capable of.
What a great time to be a proud American! We are making hotter muscle cars in Detroit than ever, The Original (minus 1) Van Halen has just released new tunes, farmers had the best returns since the 1970's. AND American women have never been sexier!!!
So high atop my little soapbox I say God bless America! Still the Nation everyone else wishes they were.
Anybody disagree? Kiss my rebel red ***! LOL
But then again I'm all for promoting the idea that we are all in this together so its time to quit pointing fingers & whining like a bunch of little ******* and work toward what we are capable of.
What a great time to be a proud American! We are making hotter muscle cars in Detroit than ever, The Original (minus 1) Van Halen has just released new tunes, farmers had the best returns since the 1970's. AND American women have never been sexier!!!
So high atop my little soapbox I say God bless America! Still the Nation everyone else wishes they were.
Anybody disagree? Kiss my rebel red ***! LOL
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I'm standing on my soapbox & it's made in USA...The ad celebrates the city of Detroit, Depression-style hardship theme ...No cars were shown & Chrysler’s name isn’t mentioned until the end.The ad was created by pro-Obama creative ad agency. The ad was seen by the largest audience ever to watch a super bowl broadcast.
Great ad ,the impact is effective.. Sometime there is a different kind of truth.The political intent. It gives the White House a pat on the back,for the auto industry bailout ... In the ad it says "It's Halftime in America". Does that mean another 4 more years of Obama?
Eastwood also speaks of an America “roaring back.”... describes a hopeful message for an American auto industry.. About american spirit..Clint Eastwood is an all around badass actor..I want that...Are we really seeing that... Gas prices are the highest, food prices also. Take a drive around & look at the closing of small businesses...
What goals were in mind by Chrysler’s Halftime in America ad..... visual power, intended as propaganda for the bailouts...
Chrysler Group Chairman and CEO Sergio Marchionne..... wait . Are we supposed to forget all the money we lost on Chrysler..The money lost on the stock sale and ignore its Italian ownership.....
Great ad ,the impact is effective.. Sometime there is a different kind of truth.The political intent. It gives the White House a pat on the back,for the auto industry bailout ... In the ad it says "It's Halftime in America". Does that mean another 4 more years of Obama?
Eastwood also speaks of an America “roaring back.”... describes a hopeful message for an American auto industry.. About american spirit..Clint Eastwood is an all around badass actor..I want that...Are we really seeing that... Gas prices are the highest, food prices also. Take a drive around & look at the closing of small businesses...
What goals were in mind by Chrysler’s Halftime in America ad..... visual power, intended as propaganda for the bailouts...
Chrysler Group Chairman and CEO Sergio Marchionne..... wait . Are we supposed to forget all the money we lost on Chrysler..The money lost on the stock sale and ignore its Italian ownership.....
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The way America is going is heart wrenching true enough. The nearest town Conneautville, hear is closing more places down, There is talk of shutting down the schools, dividing them up into two other schools that make up "Conneaut School District" I heard today the hardware is about to close down, this is a very small town, but if all this comes to pass a new ghost town is on the horizon. They have a medical center there, a dollar gen store that just went up, one grocery store and a gas station at the store. There was 5 gas stations there, now a store gas station together, people are running scared and for good reason, property values will decline more, its a mess. Im sure some of you could tell of the same story in your near by town, It used to be a busy place and now, i think you can hear the grass growing thru those once busy sidewalks. I hope all is paying attention for this next election in these small or large towns, before the whole of this country sounds like Conneautville. I know how it is everywhere, and its declining, makes one sick to see it, read of it and to watch the news, where the news caster tells us Good evening, and then explains just why it isint someone said, It isint just the selling of cars, its all things commercial not bad
Oh i forgot one closing, Rigby Ford, Out of business now im hearing, One of the biggest car dealers around this area....
Oh i forgot one closing, Rigby Ford, Out of business now im hearing, One of the biggest car dealers around this area....
Darius
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I have read many threads on several sites, including Yahoo News, about this ad.
It is extremely bothersome to me what the MEDIA has created in this country. They have allowed so much bullshit and themselves become so "Partisan" that they have succeeded in creating a society of lemmings.
Here some one wants to give a "pep talk" to the world about getting our **** back together based on the fundamentals the country was created on, and an overwhelming group of people have to read into the message something that is NOT there!
I would love to see what would happen in this country if the media was SHUT OFF for just one month!
It is extremely bothersome to me what the MEDIA has created in this country. They have allowed so much bullshit and themselves become so "Partisan" that they have succeeded in creating a society of lemmings.
Here some one wants to give a "pep talk" to the world about getting our **** back together based on the fundamentals the country was created on, and an overwhelming group of people have to read into the message something that is NOT there!
I would love to see what would happen in this country if the media was SHUT OFF for just one month!
70Fish
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I enjoyed it for what it was to me, a pep talk, nothing more, nothing less. There are those like Karl Rove, that have said he was offended by it. A perfect example of paranoid partian politics trying to slam what was a good message IMO. What would he rather see? A Detroit that has been razed to the ground and gone back to nature? Clint is a registered repub, not known for shilling products so not sure what that blowhard, Rove, is getting his panties in a bunch about?
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Lots of good points brought up here. 
First, contrary to Clint's narration, the second half of the game isn't winnable since our star quarterback, Plymouth, is out of the game. Let's get Plymouth back, reintroduce the Roadrunner to the American public (and by that I mean a real Roadrunner, not a generic four-door sedan with a last minute name change ala the Charger fiasco), and then we'll start scoring some financial touchdowns.
Second, the issue with the government, the auto companies, and the unions is much different than it ever has been. The government essentially confiscated the property of the investors in GM and Chrysler, and gave it to the unions. Before the government took over, GM and Chrysler owned the majority of the shares in each company, with private investors owning most of the rest and the unions owning about 5%. After the "bankruptcy" proceedings, the government gave about 40% of the shares to the unions, via VEBA trusts, which are under union control. The unions didn't have to invest a dime to get those shares, they had them handed to them while the private investors who had paid for them initially were told to go pound sand. This created a huge problem with maintaining investment in these companies. Few private investors are willing to buy stock because they know their property can be taken away by the government at any time, so we the taxpayers have been quietly infusing cash into Chrysler and GM to keep them afloat, and that's money we can never get back. To make matters worse, you've got the government influencing corporate decision making, which has gotten us the total flop of the Volt... which, if you pay taxes, you're paying for.
While I'm all for the resurgence of American car makers, the way this deal went down should have been criminal. The share holders were robbed, the tax payers continue to get robbed, and a lot of folks, including Obama (who I voted for) are reaping the benefits without incurring any costs, and that's plain wrong. Both GM and Chrysler should have been allowed to go through bankruptcy and come out as leaner, stronger, companies better able to compete on the global market... but that would have resulted in unions losing some of their power and influence, so the Democrats couldn't allow that to happen. So instead we have two companies that are little more than tax dollar sponges, making cars like the Volt. Thank God the Challenger is still in production.
First, contrary to Clint's narration, the second half of the game isn't winnable since our star quarterback, Plymouth, is out of the game. Let's get Plymouth back, reintroduce the Roadrunner to the American public (and by that I mean a real Roadrunner, not a generic four-door sedan with a last minute name change ala the Charger fiasco), and then we'll start scoring some financial touchdowns.
Second, the issue with the government, the auto companies, and the unions is much different than it ever has been. The government essentially confiscated the property of the investors in GM and Chrysler, and gave it to the unions. Before the government took over, GM and Chrysler owned the majority of the shares in each company, with private investors owning most of the rest and the unions owning about 5%. After the "bankruptcy" proceedings, the government gave about 40% of the shares to the unions, via VEBA trusts, which are under union control. The unions didn't have to invest a dime to get those shares, they had them handed to them while the private investors who had paid for them initially were told to go pound sand. This created a huge problem with maintaining investment in these companies. Few private investors are willing to buy stock because they know their property can be taken away by the government at any time, so we the taxpayers have been quietly infusing cash into Chrysler and GM to keep them afloat, and that's money we can never get back. To make matters worse, you've got the government influencing corporate decision making, which has gotten us the total flop of the Volt... which, if you pay taxes, you're paying for.
While I'm all for the resurgence of American car makers, the way this deal went down should have been criminal. The share holders were robbed, the tax payers continue to get robbed, and a lot of folks, including Obama (who I voted for) are reaping the benefits without incurring any costs, and that's plain wrong. Both GM and Chrysler should have been allowed to go through bankruptcy and come out as leaner, stronger, companies better able to compete on the global market... but that would have resulted in unions losing some of their power and influence, so the Democrats couldn't allow that to happen. So instead we have two companies that are little more than tax dollar sponges, making cars like the Volt. Thank God the Challenger is still in production.
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